iPhone 7/Plus First time I haven’t upgraded on my 2 year cycle

[PBz]

Video will look great on the XR, aside from lack of true HDR, etc. People complaining about video resolution are barking up the wrong tree. Even on 1080p ~6" phone screen, 720p video looks very good (if encoded properly).

The main issue IMO is text quality. Generally in a movie or TV show, you are not trying read tiny text on screen. You may be looking at a giant talking head filling up 1/3rd of the screen. Contrast that to trying to surf on MacRumors in Safari. The entire screen is filled up with tiny characters. Now try to do this in another language like Chinese or Korean, where each individual word is not that much bigger than a single English letter. That's when the pixel density really matters.

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Video will look great on the XR, aside from lack of true HDR, etc. People complaining about video resolution are barking up the wrong tree. Even on 1080p ~6" phone screen, 720p video looks very good (if encoded properly).

The main issue IMO is text quality. Generally in a movie or TV show, you are not trying read tiny text on screen. You may be looking at a giant talking head filling up 1/3rd of the screen. Contrast that to trying to surf on MacRumors in Safari. The entire screen is filled up with tiny characters. Now try to do this in another language like Chinese or Korean, where each individual word is not that much bigger than a single English letter. That's when the pixel density really matters.

I am able to tell a difference in the quality of video between the 8 and 8 Plus. I left the 8 and went back to the 8 Plus because video of baseball and football games did not look HD on the 8. Data speed not an issue as I am on ATT Fiber with speeds approaching 500 up/down.

 

[EugW]

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I am able to tell a difference in the quality of video between the 8 and 8 Plus. I left the 8 and went back to the 8 Plus because video of baseball and football games did not look HD on the 8. Data speed not an issue as I am on ATT Fiber with speeds approaching 500 up/down.

Yes. That’s because you’re getting crappy overly compressed on demand streams.

I guess that’s a reasonable concern but the blame there largely rests on the stream provider.

 

[PBz]

Yes. That’s because you’re getting crappy overly compressed on demand streams.

I guess that’s a reasonable concern but the blame there largely rests on the stream provider.

Not true. These are HD streams from the MLB app. Trust me.. I have seen them A LOT. I have watched many (parts) of games..often lying with my son so he will go to sleep. The SAME video streams were VERY crisp on the 8+ and less so on the 8. You keep discounting my experience. The difference is there and anyone looking for it can see it.

 

[cornerexit]

So OP. Let’s get real here. The X/XS size is equivalent to the iPhone. 6/7/8 4.7 inch.

It’s money.

You can’t say you want a iPhone 6 size. Cause the iPhone X is very similar in size to iPhone 6.

Same thing for the xs max. It’s roughly same size physically as the iPhone plus 5.5 model.

I think there will be $200-300 gift card promos for the new iPhones come holiday season with the carriers. So the iPhone xs ($1000 plus the $200-300 gift card promo) will make the phones roughly $700-800.

And I bet OP still will be hesitant to buy the iPhone XS even with that promo. Cause OP is used to barely paying the phone.

Iphone 5

4.87 x 2.31 x 0.30 in
3.95 oz

Iphone SE

4.87 x 2.31 x 0.30 in
3.99 oz

Iphone 6

5.44 X 2.64 X .27 in
4.55 oz

Iphone 7

5.44 X 2.64 X .28 in
4.87 oz

Iphone X

5.65 x 2.79 x 0.30 in
6.14 oz

iphone XS

5.65 x 2.79 x 0.30 in
6.24 oz

In a case, the size difference is exacerbated. So every gen has increased in size, weight, or both. The iphone X or XS is definitely longer, wider, thicker, and heavier than the 7. It is not the same size, sorry. And I mistyped in my OP, it was the 5 to 6 transition where I noticed a major difference but irrelevant as the X is still larger in every dimension and weight to my current 7. So I want a 5 or SE sized iphone with full screen and no bezels. And it isn't just about money, that is you with your jump to conclusions mat. Say they had a new SE, similar to the Xr, full screen no bezels, I'd pay the same money as the Xr for it. Take my money right now. I'd take a 128gb model. I'm certainly not dropping a grand for a form factor I don't want, with no 5G LTE hardware onboard. Doesn't make sense. I'll agree with you on one thing, I'd take a X or Xs if it was very inexpensive. Few hundred bucks, sure, but I still don't like the form factor, it still wouldn't have 5G LTE support. If it weren't for the low megapixel front camera I would go buy a SE right now and trade down to get the size I want.

And I am no different than many people. Low(er) cost things don't get scrutinized as hard as expensive things. Once you are talking a grand or more whatever it is has my full attention.

 

[EugW]

Iphone 7

5.44 X 2.64 X .28 in
4.87 oz

Iphone X

5.65 x 2.79 x 0.30 in
6.14 oz

I'm gonna plug my prediction again:

2019 326 ppi 5.5" 375x812 x2 LCD at 750x1624
Screen size 4.98 x 2.30 in
Phone size 5.38 x 2.72 in
5.x oz

That would be in between the width of the iPhone 7 and the iPhone X, but slightly shorter than the 7 and noticeably shorter than the X. Weight a little bit more than iPhone 7. Price for 64 GB is US$649.

I don't think you'll see another SE sized iPhone any time soon.

 

[cornerexit]

I'm gonna plug my prediction again:

2019 326 ppi 5.5" 375x812 x2 LCD at 750x1624
Screen size 4.98 x 2.30 in
Phone size 5.38 x 2.72 in
5.x oz

That would be in between the width of the iPhone 7 and the iPhone X, but slightly shorter than the 7 and noticeably shorter than the X. Weight a little bit more than iPhone 7. Price for 64 GB is US$649.

I don't think you'll see another SE sized iPhone any time soon.

I know you are probably right but I hope you are wrong. If true, will just wait for the X/Xs form factor and 5G LTE hardware then pay the blood money

 

[Damon2]

The XR is an option. Big upgrade over your 7, and there is a 128 GB model.

That said, the 7 is an excellent performer with iOS 12.


I’m on my third year with my iPhone 7 Plus. Great phone and excellent all around performance.

Too big.
5.8" display is absolute max for me.
Shame Apple only offered that variant with the XR.

And you mean second year

 

[EugW]

Too big.
5.8" display is absolute max for me.
Shame Apple only offered that variant with the XR.

Maybe in 2019, for a 5.5".

And you mean second year

No I mean third year. The iPhone 7 Plus came out over 2 years ago in mid-September 2016, which means we are now in our third year with it. Beginning of third year, but third year nonetheless.

In contrast, those with the iPhone X are in their first year, since it didn't come out until November. End of first year though.

 

[now i see it]

I think this 2 year experiment with the X/XS series and all the issues they're having should hopefully be figured out by next year's models.