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No, just pointing out the AW has a $10 monthly sub as an option too.
When Apple introduced the LTE option, many posters here complained loudly about the $10/month carrier fee. A very large percentage said that was too much to pay.

I can only imagine how few people are willing to pay for what Fitbit thinks is worth $10/month, when they won’t pay that even for voice/text/data.
 
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Maybe, but they have offered it for many years already, so somehow it seems to be worth the effort for them.

Trying to retrace when it started, I found this reference that they already had a subscription service in March 2015 when they bought the online coaching company FitStar. Here is a Youtube video talking about the Fitbit Premium service in January 2014. Here is a Quora post from January 2013 mentioning it.
If there’s any confusion about whether this service is new or not, blame Fitbit. They’re the ones who issued a very, very long, boring and unconvincing press release trying to reassure its investors that people will spend money on this app:

SAN FRANCISCO--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Fitbit(NYSE: FIT) today announced the launch of Fitbit Premium, a paid subscription service in the Fitbit® app...

https://investor.fitbit.com/press/p...and-Fitness-Subscription-Service/default.aspx
 
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Let me know when you can buy a piece of software and it works for 50 years. More likely there would be at least 10 versions of Office (once every 5 years) at a cost of probably $499 each (since Office 365 is the equivalent of the old Office Professional). Price works out to be about the same.

I've never paid a cent for Office. Ever. Because exactly as you said. It's too damn expensive.
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You’re the perfect Apple Customer!
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Goodness me, what a brilliant way of looking at subscription services. I have worked out my electricity supply subscription service is going to cost me 400 thousand dollars over the next 30 years; no way, I’m going to buy a Bentley now...or should I be responsible and buy a power plant?

I know you're being sarcastic, but you're actually exactly right. Yep, your electricity supply does multiply out to $400,000 over your lifetime. And yep, you can install solar panels instead, a lot of people are doing exactly that. Even the Kentucky Coal Museum has decided that it's coal fired electricity supply subscription is too much, and are switching to solar (https://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/06/us/coal-museum-goes-solar-trnd/index.html)
 
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I've never paid a cent for Office. Ever. Because exactly as you said. It's too damn expensive.

So....how do you use Office if you’ve never paid for it?
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On Mac, you still can get Office 2019 w/o subscription, stand alone.
And cloud share options can be found for free as you might know.
I never had to support the sub« concept. There's always another way.

Bargain?
Office stand alone: 129.99 $
Office 365 Subscr. 69 $/y

Fitbit will find customers for its peculiar watch rental, I'm sure it's the similiar people that make Microsoft happy.

Interesting you picked those specific versions. How much is Office Professional as standalone?
 
So....how do you use Office if you’ve never paid for it?

At work my employer paid for it. At home, back when the proprietary office doc format was so ubiquitous that it was impossible to deal with not have read/write access to the format, I used pirated versions. As soon as the open document format came out and OpenOffice came out with the ability to read/write both the open format and the proprietary MS format, I used OpenOffice (now moved to LibreOffice). Now that the open format has become ubiquitous enough that people don't even blink when you send them a document in that format (due to MS Office now read/writing the open format correctly), and since LibreOffice has become high quality, I don't even have a pirated copy of MS anymore, because I simply don't need it. Judge if you like, but the ONLY reason I used pirated software was because of the monopolistic practices of MS (which have now been shut down by the active enforcement by various laws around the world, especially lead by the EU). Those reasons have now been neutered, and so I no longer use pirated software.
 
At work my employer paid for it. At home, back when the proprietary office doc format was so ubiquitous that it was impossible to deal with not have read/write access to the format, I used pirated versions. As soon as the open document format came out and OpenOffice came out with the ability to read/write both the open format and the proprietary MS format, I used OpenOffice (now moved to LibreOffice). Now that the open format has become ubiquitous enough that people don't even blink when you send them a document in that format (due to MS Office now read/writing the open format correctly), and since LibreOffice has become high quality, I don't even have a pirated copy of MS anymore, because I simply don't need it. Judge if you like, but the ONLY reason I used pirated software was because of the monopolistic practices of MS (which have now been shut down by the active enforcement by various laws around the world, especially lead by the EU). Those reasons have now been neutered, and so I no longer use pirated software.

Pirated software. So you’re basically a crook using illegal software.

Openoffice and Libraoffice are garbage compared to Office. Especially when compared to Excel. If you’re not having trouble moving documents back and forth it’s because you’re using a very limited subset of features in your documents. Try to do anything more complex and watch things fall apart.
 
Hey, you and me!

I used to have extended cable and internet. Cut out cable TV, but downgraded internet to the basic stuff.

I have Amazon Prime for viewing movies and shows, as well as Curiosity Stream. Both haven't been too shabby at all. I'd like to get into Netflix and Hulu+, but, time is the bottleneck.

In recent years, I pay $25 a month for a gym membership, and have tried out Costco. I've been adding a bunch of subscription services, but I've also said no to others, so it's been manageable thus far.
To be fair I forgot about Costco. I pay $120 a year for the membership that gives me 2% cash back at the end of the year via check. Between supplies and meat purchased for our businesses it more than pays for itself. It's technically a membership but it actually ends up saving money. The last check we got was just under $300, so it's really a no-brainer.

My amazon account is gifted from a friend, so I get the free two day shipping but none of the other perks. I've thought about it for streaming and such, but time is the greater issue here for us as well.

I have to say the Star Wars series from Disney has me really considering their sub, but I'll probably hold off, at least until I know if it's any good. My boys would probably appreciate a large streamable movie library though, so, like I said, waiting to see more of the details around it all.
 
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So....how do you use Office if you’ve never paid for it?
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Interesting you picked those specific versions. How much is Office Professional as standalone?
I got office pro standalone for $10 through some kind of agreement between my employer and M$ called M$ home use program. But buying outright is pricey I think it was around $400 or 3.33 years worth of Fitbit sub/AW carrier fees.
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Yes for cellular connectivity, which Fitbit does not offer.
Yes we all know the difference between the offerings but the monthly price is the same.
 
I got office pro standalone for $10 through some kind of agreement between my employer and M$ called M$ home use program. But buying outright is pricey I think it was around $400 or 3.33 years worth of Fitbit sub/AW carrier fees.
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Yes we all know the difference between the offerings but the monthly price is the same.

No, you compared the fitbits sub with that of the iPhone.

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They are not comparable subscriptions, not in the least. So no I don’t think you do know the difference in offerings between the two, no matter how vocal you may be.
 
Pirated software. So you’re basically a crook using illegal software.

Openoffice and Libraoffice are garbage compared to Office. Especially when compared to Excel. If you’re not having trouble moving documents back and forth it’s because you’re using a very limited subset of features in your documents. Try to do anything more complex and watch things fall apart.

Torrent for life!

The days of OpenOffice/LibreOffice being rubbish are long gone. Sure, if you are doing seriously advanced stuff, then MS does some things better, but if you are doing those things, then you (or your employer) are earning a lot of money for those tasks, so it makes sense to pay for it, especially if you're already locked into MS products like Outlook and SQLServer. For the 99.9% of the rest of us, LO is perfect. And 200,000,000 active users worldwide (unique IP addresses seeking software updates) backs that up.

Oh, and "having trouble moving documents back and forth" - do you mean between MS and LO? If so then yeah, LO uses ODF, and MS uses docx (its own substandard open document format that it managed to get passed by ISO by bribing a bunch of third world voting countries), so LO can read docx, but writes ODF better, and MS can read ODF but writes docx better. So sure, trying to send complex advanced documents between LO and MS isn't perfect, but that doesn't make MS better, just different. But if you are just sending around something simple like your resume, then it doesn't matter squat if you use LO or MS.
 
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Subscriptions are great for some things (Office 365 is a bargain for what you get). For others it’s ridiculous. This is one of the ridiculous uses.


This Fitbit “watch” is DOA.
Office used to be one time fee for about a decade. So was adobe premium suite. Well, not a real bargain, imho
 
Office used to be one time fee for about a decade. So was adobe premium suite. Well, not a real bargain, imho

Well, you do get onedrive bundled with it. If you compare it with Dropbox, you are basically getting office for free.

Not to mention that office used to cost like the equivalent of 2-3 years of subscription today. I don’t necessarily see it as a bad thing. Microsoft doesn’t have to worry about which features to keep for the next version of office and I am confident my current version will continue to get updates.

It just feels cleaner overall.
 
No, you compared the fitbits sub with that of the iPhone.

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They are not comparable subscriptions, not in the least. So no I don’t think you do know the difference in offerings between the two, no matter how vocal you may be.

I didn’t say they are comparable only pointing out the price is the same. And the idea of paying $10 for a service for your watch was introd with the data plan. What is with the last comment are you trying to “win” a conversation here?
 
I didn’t say they are comparable only pointing out the price is the same. And the idea of paying $10 for a service for your watch was introd with the data plan. What is with the last comment are you trying to “win” a conversation here?

You mentioned it as a comparison but now it’s not comparable.

Your logic make absolutely no sense, whatsoever.
 
You mentioned it as a comparison but now it’s not comparable.

Your logic make absolutely no sense, whatsoever.
You’re right. I was comparing pricing not the service offered. Do you understand?
 
You’re right. I was comparing pricing not the service offered. Do you understand?

Right the price just not what it represents.

Also ones getting paid to fit bit, the other to cellular carriers around the world.

No still doesn’t make any sense.
 
When it comes to wearable fitness devices, Fitbit still leads the way. Their accuracy is excellent compared to other competition devices.
 
Well, you do get onedrive bundled with it. If you compare it with Dropbox, you are basically getting office for free.

Not to mention that office used to cost like the equivalent of 2-3 years of subscription today. I don’t necessarily see it as a bad thing. Microsoft doesn’t have to worry about which features to keep for the next version of office and I am confident my current version will continue to get updates.

It just feels cleaner overall.
Oh, if you work for Microsoft, you will enjoy what I tell you. I worked for Intel and we got all Microsoft goodies for free. But now, there is truly no alternative to Microsoft Office, unless you want to deal with all the incompatibilities across platforms. So I am sucker, I meant subscriber for life. Same with Adobe Suite and their subscriptions. It’s just cost of doing business.

I am saying in general, one time office cost used to last 10-20 years and did the job. Now we have no way to use the paid off car (office). We gotta lease... what a waste
 
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