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It's been a while since we've heard a peep about Adobe's Flash 10 for smartphone initiative, but according to a slide from its Q2 Fiscal Year 2009 earnings presentation, the platform's on track for a beta release this October at the company's MAX conference. Prime mobile OS candidates for the beta include those from Adobe's Open Screen Project, which at last count included Nokia, Palm, Google, and Microsoft -- and unless there's been some behind closed doors meetings, the two glaring omissions on that list are still gonna be bugging you come this Halloween.
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zomg how will this look if the pré AND the android have it and the iphone dosent?! More sprint advertising comparing these 2 phones?! T-mobile going we have it Haha?! I think now Apple is being held by the bullies. Hopefully we get it soon enough.
 
Adobe demos Flash on the HTC Hero

Been hankering to see what Flash -- via the Open Screen Project -- actually looks like on an Android (or any modern mobile) device? Well hanker no more, ya'll. Adobe has helpfully dropped a video on us which has Flash team member Adrian Ludwig demo'ing the newly minted HTC Hero (multitouch gestures included). Once the content loads up, it seems to run at a pretty snappy rate, though waiting on Flash content to appear doesn't look encouraging if you're in the midst of casual browsing (or on a weak connection). We'll be interested to see what this is like in the real world -- and for platforms beyond Android -- but for now at least we've got something to go on.
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I really don't want flash. I know I'm in the minority on this, but I definitely don't want flashing banner ads.

EDIT: Not only that, I can only think of one time in the past couple years that I've wanted it. I went on a car website that was flash based and I couldn't see it. That's it.
 
EDIT: Not only that, I can only think of one time in the past couple years that I've wanted it. I went on a car website that was flash based and I couldn't see it. That's it.

I agree that it's affected me less than I'd have thought. On the other hand, it would be nice to have occasionally as a feature, at least until such a time as most websites are no longer using it heavily.
 
I don't know where some of you hang out, but I rarely see flashing ads. :)

It could probably be set up so that you have to click to start things, similar to the way that videos are done now.

I want Flash for:

1) Ability to see news and review videos without having to back to my laptop.

2) Ability to use websites that are written in it.

3) Once it's everywhere, it becames a develop-once platform for mobile devices. Talk about a monster app market !
 
2) Ability to use websites that are written in it.

I have yet to encounter a website written in Flash that I would say was well-composed. It's always comes out as some gaudy, hard-to-maneuver piece of drivel.

3) Once it's everywhere, it becames a develop-once platform for mobile devices. Talk about a monster app market !

Ohhh, I SO look forward to THAT day... :rolleyes:

I'm not against Flash on the iPhone, but I wish flash developers would be more inclined to use Flash more responsibly. So far, I've never met an exclusive-Flash website I liked. I can't say I look forward to the day when those annoying dancing mortgage ads or those embedded ads with video that feel that I must hear their audio at full volume whether I like it nor not end up gracing my iPhone screen.

I originally saw the lack of Flash as a detriment, but to be honest, not having to deal with the annoyances of bad Flash design has ended up making my web experiences on the iPhone kinda pleasant, actually. Very occasionally, I run into a website that has flash that I WISH I could see on my iPhone. But when I finally do get in front of a desktop to view the site, I always end up thinking "gee, nothing on this site absolutely required that it be written in Flash. Why the hell did they do that?"
 
I dont think they are the same thing or can replace each other.

HTML 5 video tag also needs codec support. Not as simple as you think.
Right, but Safari already supports HTML5 video, it just doesn't support OGG Theora. I think Adobe needs to rewrite Flash from scratch and work on performance issues. There's absolutely NO reason why an internet video that's barely 640x480, causes my quad core CPU to jump to 70%. Not even Blu-ray does that to my CPU. And forget watching "HD", as my MacBook Pro U/b goes close to 95%, fans a blazin'. Flash is such a resource hog, and Adobe doesn't want to do anything about it. So I'll take HTML5 video any day. HTML5 can definitely replace Flash/Silverlight, as more browsers are supporting it.
 
I think Apple will do exactly what they do every time.

The others will come out with flash 10. We will hear nothing from Apple for 12 months.

Apple will be a year behind but when they launch flash for the iphone it will be a special version they made with the help of adobe and it will be FAR better.
 
I really don't see the point in Flash on the iPhone. MacRumors' ad banners take long enough to load as it is.
 
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