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Flash iPod: 'Life is Random'?

io_burn said:
I can only imagine the absolute horror you must have experienced using a cassette tape deck.
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hehe, I still use cassettes in my oldskool 1989 T3 VW Van... nothing like a good mixtape... ;)

I think when you have to skip a track there's something wrong with your playlist... that's the secret of good mixtape: come up with a mix that does not make you want to turn the darn thing off.

this applies to a tape or playlist only of course, not your entire collection... but I personally don't have a problem with hearing Bob James, Underworld, John Barry, and a Ken Nordine spoken word track back to back on my "shuffled" iPod while riding my bike to class across town:
- if it's a good track, I like to listen to it... if it's not, why is it in my collection? I'm not a data-packrat, so that one has to go...
- if I like to enhance a certain mood (let's say, the first warm day of spring...), I'll put a playlist together for that (in this case a Motown or Burt Bacharach best-of...)

I really don't see the problem here... :rolleyes:

vSpacken
 
io_burn said:
When you're biking, jogging, or working out, do you stop every 2.5 minutes to select a new song, or do you just let your iPod play on random? I press play, get on my bike, and press pause when I am done. I could be alone on this, but I'm willing to bet the people Apple is going to market this product towards are people like this, who just want a couple hours worth of their favorite music they've purchased off iTunes with no screens to break, and minimal buttons to worry about.

You have to look at this product from an entirely different perspective than you are used to.
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Congenitally impossible around here. :D
 
io_burn said:
I would be fairly surprised to see any signifigant price drops in anything from the iPod line. iPods are hip, trendy, and the cool thing to have. Apple knows this, and they have no problem selling the every loving crap out of iPods. Hell, when I bought my iPod last year I had to go to 3 seperate Best Buys to find one with a 40GB in stock, as everyone working the small electronics department said they sell as fast as they receive them.

A price drop would help, but I really don't think people need any more incentive to buy an iPod than they already have.
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Well, I'm not saying Apple isn't selling their iPods (or that they're even able to keep up with the current demand), I'm just saying some people still won't buy an iPod because the alternatives are cheaper (but would've bought the iPod if it was the same price as competitors).
 
The interface for the new iPod will actually be a hologram a-la R2D2 in Star Wars. Princess Lea will appear in front of you and tell you what song is currently playing, and randomly decide whether you should be listening to a different song, even if another song is already playing. The infuriating manner in which this interface works will help you get a more effective workout on the treadmill because it makes your blood boil even hotter.

That's my theory and I'm sticking to it. :p
 
j_maddison said:
I'm sorry but this has to be the most stupid forum in the history of macrumors!

No mp3 player has ever been built without a scree to my knowlage, and I think you'll find no consumer in their right mind would buy one. And if it was voice activated or had some sort of voice scrolling, could you think how long that would take to scroll through songs! not to mention the fact that you'd have to remember every song on your mp3 player.

Guys c'mon use your inteligence and stop perpetuating a lie

Jason
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Um... actually there are several USB flash drives that also function as MP3 players that do not have screens. Here is one example:

I don't think it is a good there, but if apple does it there are certainly not the first to do it.
 
Metatron said:
I AM A MAC FANATIC AND THE IPOD SUCKS.
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I would disagree and say that you sir, are the idiot. Keep in mind companies market devices to the GENERAL POPULATION. Not drooling fanboy audiophile forum posting morons who barely even make up a percentage point of sales. They're not shooting themselves in the foot, they're creating even more market space for the iPod which already can barely stay on the shelves. A NORMAL person presses play on their music player, and listens. They don't listen to an obscure song from their extensive 60GB collection of music, then navigate to another equally obscure song of an opposite genre, then an even more obscure song.

As already stated in this thread, by NORMAL people, we set up playlists, hit play, and if we don't feel like listening to a song, we hit next. I have never been in a situation where I've been using my iPod where I've even had the TIME to stand around and fiddle around looking for a song I've never listened to which is on none of my playlists. I listen to my iPod when I drive, or when I do things, and in neither of those situations do I often have the luxury of dicking around for 30 seconds, should I get the urge to listen to Raffi's Banana Phone German Techno Ultramix.

...Regret the mistake of buying one, give me a break. People spend $100 in one night of dinner entertainment, I highly doubt anyone is going to be as suicidally regretful as you think because their $100 iPod doesn't have a screen.

I think you should go back to google image searching for 'boobs', rather than trying to post here and form any kind of coherant argument. Here's a tip for you, turn SafeSearch off... Should keep you busy for a while.
 
I'm quickly losing track of this thread, but I don't think anyone has noticed that the "Life is Random" poster isn't a silhouette. It's an arrow, on the right at least. Perhaps a few curvy arrows going in different directions, probably to symbolize randomness?

I expect there is also an iPod on there somewhere, perhaps an arrow or two are curving around it in pseudo-3D.
 
Yvan256 said:
Well, I'm not saying Apple isn't selling their iPods (or that they're even able to keep up with the current demand), I'm just saying some people still won't buy an iPod because the alternatives are cheaper (but would've bought the iPod if it was the same price as competitors).
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Well of course, the world is filled with cheapskates, not much Apple can do about that.
 
Those that are dismissing the new iPod without even seeing it should probably consider that this is the same company that has developed 2 other smash music players. At least give them a chance (look at how the Mini did compared to original expectations.)

Arguing that the flash player has to have the same exact interface doesn't hold any water, considering what Steve Jobs has said about flash players before. You could pretty much anticipate they would go back to the drawing board with the flash player, in order to try to create something that would offer decent value (which makes a click wheel and multi-line display very difficult), and not get tossed in a drawer after a couple of months (which is what Jobs said about flash players in general.) iTunes here is key, it's the main advantage of this player vs. other company's players. The people who use their current iPods in this way are already "getting it". It doesn't mean this player will be for everyone, but I think it will work.

Who knows, the rumors could be wrong. But the whole point of this flash player would be to leverage iTunes as much as possible (as many posters have indicated they do.) Otherwise you are looking at a $199 iPod Mini with 1 GB of memory, now that's something that I don't think would sell.
 
Metatron said:
I know this.....if it has no screen, then it will have no sales....period.

The only few sales it will have is from tech heads who want to flaunt it and show everybody there worthless new toy. And as for the few post from people who have said....."a person who is active or working out just wants music.....or how often does a person jogging switch there songs anyways....." your an idiot. Sometime in the future you are going to play just one specific song and at that point, just that one time, you will regret the mistake of buying one. I would rather have a 3rd party flash player with a screen, then even a SUB 100 dollar flash ipod that is the coolest looking tech toy in history if I can not navigate the thing.

I have hope that apple will not shoot itself in the foot on this one. It really would make apple look like a bunch of fools.
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Once again, the business geniuses at MacRumors strike again.

This just means that this product will be a runaway success, you know...
 
Metatron said:
I know this.....if it has no screen, then it will have no sales....period.
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Ah, yes. Just like most of the predictions from the introduction of the first iPod.
Metatron said:
And as for the few post from people who have said....."a person who is active or working out just wants music.....or how often does a person jogging switch there songs anyways....." your an idiot.
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Actually, go and check out any forum populated with fitness folk. Running with HD based players always comes up as an issue. Now look at people who do play sports with their iPod on - its usually strapped to their upper arm, tucked into a waist belt (in the back) or is in some other way inaccessible. I'm a distance runner myself - there's no way I'd bother messing around with trying to find specific songs during a race, and I've - seriously - never seen anyone else do it either.
Metatron said:
Sometime in the future you are going to play just one specific song and at that point, just that one time, you will regret the mistake of buying one.
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Er, yeah. That's when you use your full iPod, or iTunes on your laptop, or whatever. If this only has 1gb on it, you're likely not to have the "one true song" that you're looking for anyway, so just relax.

Thinking about it, I see a need for the following:
1) Play/Pause
2) Skip to Random Song
3) Volume Up
4) Volume Down

That's about everything that I'd use while running. Come to think of it, that's 99% of what I use in iTunes, too.
 
BornAgainMac said:
How about no screen, no volume control, no next / prev, no on/off switch. It just plays at full blast and you can't turn it off. ha ha.
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LOL, funniest post in the thread so far. :D
 
BornAgainMac said:
"Life is so random" should apply to Windows XP and not the iPod.
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Nah, you're thinking about Windows 95... (and 98, but much more 95).

Windows XP may be full of security holes, but it's actually quite stable (it's quite nice to know it's always running, ready to download the latest viruses and trojans). ;)
 
whatever said:
What if you all have this wrong.

That this is not an iPod, but instead the long missing Remote to control AirTunes!

We'll see tomorrow.

Whatever!
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Haha, I thought the same thing too!
 
Maybe someone has already posited this, but what if "Life is Random" has nothing to do with a flash iPod, but rather something like the iHome rumor? iHome could be marketed as a way of organizing your life (or iLife) and keeping things straight. Guess we'll find out tomorrow, 9 hours after the fact (ha!).
 
maybe "life is random" is just a generic statement about the flash based iPod, It may be suggesting that you may drop or damage a hard disk based player ("life is random", you may accidently drop it?). But to elliminate this risk they have now either produced a flash based player (which has no moving parts, therefore it is less likely to be damaged when droped. Or they have added harddrive protection to protect the drive when it is "accelerated" like IBM put in there notebooks last year (which if i remember apple put a patent in for).
 
What is so bad about NO SCREEN???

All the iPod Flash is probably meant for, like ALOT of people on here that support it are saying, is for those who make their playlists in iTunes before syncing it with the iPod Flash. iTunes will probably have a special playlist option for this new iPod that will allow you to only put the maximum amount of tunes on said iPod.

Think about it... the iPod Flash will only have 1 or 2 GB capacity. I know I for one would not be able to sync an iPod Flash with my entire iTunes library. I have just way too many songs.

So what is the big deal if it doesn't have a screen???

But I would get one to use while exercising or going for a walk or cleaning the house. I have a 3G 10GB iPod and there are times that it is too big and clunky for where I want to go. It is nice to have my entire iTunes Library at my figertips, however I make playlists. I could tell you every song that is in the playlists on my iPod and the order that they run.

I don't like shuffling or listening to ALL of my tunes at once. It is too cumbersome. I make playlists that I listen to in my car with my iTrip plugged in while my wife and I are out on the road on vacation. If there happens to be a song that one of us wants to listen to and it isn't on a playlist then we search for it.

So everyone, just support Apple tomorrow. No matter if there is a screen or not. This new iPod Flash is suppose to break into the Asian market more than anything and help us out alittle bit more over here to go after the Flash based mp3 players. We're #1 in HD players, let's go for the whole enchilada!
 
Steve Jobs, and I quote, "and those little flash players that never see the light of day and get tossed in a drawer" mwsf 2004 :rolleyes:
 
io_burn said:
Yeah, you know, the real reason Sega went belly-up on the Dreamcast was because so many people were suing them for false advertising when they released Jet Grind Radio.
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Don't you remember that some people thought the SEGA Genesis used CDs because of the shape of the console? Of course, SEGA didn't name the Genesis "SEGA CD" so there was no legal implications.

If you think you're being funny (that was a GAME not an audio device), don't be surprised if this really happens in a few days/months (if it's really called "iPod radio" and doesn't have an AM/FM receiver).
 
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