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Flash Is Not Ready For Phones.

I agree

Yeah. If flash can't handle better than that then I'm willing to wait a few generations to have it implemented fluidly and without much studder. Right now its going to be early runs for a lot of phones and results will show up like crap compared to 1 - 2 years down the line.
 
Okay, that was laughable. I could hardly stand to watch any more. Pretty much if this is what we were to get, no one would use it. It almost looked like you were on a 300 baud modem.
 
Did Adobe not already say that they were working on a mobile version for iPhone?

Also, what are the speed comparisons between iPhone and the HTC Hero? Also, a version tailored to the iPhone might run faster.
 
man that was terrible and exactly the reason Flash isn't integrated into the iphone just yet
 
Clete2 said:
Did Adobe not already say that they were working on a mobile version for iPhone?

Also, what are the speed comparisons between iPhone and the HTC Hero? Also, a version tailored to the iPhone might run faster.
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+1 apple/adobe could just make it a toggle switch like they did for javascripts and plugins, unless it is harder then i think
 
iUser4Lyfe said:
man that was terrible and exactly the reason Flash isn't integrated into the iphone just yet
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That's the great thing about Apple and it is the reason a lot of people complain about Apple is well. Apple wants a polished product that works very well. They want control over their store so that porn isn't overriding it (I still wish they wouldn't allow those "Sexy Babes" apps); and for quality control. It's the reason Apple doesn't yet have a netbook.

I'm glad we don't have flash yet if it doesn't work very well.
 
they really made the phone seem like complete crap with those videos, especially the flash video. No wonder phones dont have flash yet, it looks extremely annoying.
 
Ugh, keep that away from the iPhone, for now! Maybe in 2 or 3 years, but definitely not now.
 
Flash on OS X and Linux is pitiful.

It works on Windows without thrashing the processor, but then they spoil it all with Acrobat Reader.

Adobe are useless. Really very bad.
 
Here is the thing about Flash: It has been taken way beyond its original purpose. It's used for streaming video (Hulu; ever noticed that Hulu takes up 80% of your processors?), full-fledged websites, and more. It's gone way beyond its original intent. If Flash is supported on phones, it will have to be rendered for both the small media players (music-only ones that take very little processor use) and huge websites and Hulu-like content providers.

That's the real problem; and the reason why I dislike flash. I can't wait for the video tag to take over and superseed flash. Codecs > Flash.
 
At least HTC is trying to incorporate flash making them one step closer to a smoother operating flash platform than the other manufacturers.
 
Flash isn't just a video player. How are you going to implement all of the features of Flash on devices with no mouse or keyboard?

Mouse overs? Button down? Keyboard input? It's not going to work.

Flash heavy sites can be one of the worst experiences on the net. They break web conventions like accessibility, bookmarking and navigation. (ever tried the back button on a Flash site?)

I love Flash games, but beyond that and advertising it has no place in the future of the internet.
 
Was that video a joke? Why would you bother to include flash if that's what it looks like? It's worse than not having it at all because you're promising people something you can't deliver.

t22design said:
Flash heavy sites can be one of the worst experiences on the net. They break web conventions like accessibility, bookmarking and navigation. (ever tried the back button on a Flash site?)
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so true. Flash sites are so frustrating... I'd love to be in the room when a web developer decides flash is the way to go for a new site. I mean, what are they thinking?
 
OK, if I can just get a Hulu and Netflix streaming app, I'll be fine without anything remotely close to that. Web site developers just need to understand that as more people use mobile Web devices, we need mobile-specific pages.

I first noticed this with Ted's Montana Grill. Most of the site is flash stuff. I was just wanting to find locations, addresses, phone numbers for the franchise. I can't find any of that there. I can find the locations fine through the Maps application, but that might not be the case for something else with a flash-heavy site.
 
That's flash running on an architecture that's a couple of years old.

I'm quite sure it would be a lot smoother running on the 3GS hardware - although it probably still wouldn't be good enough.
 
It comes down to simple things like a webpage with flash heavy elements could be several hundred Kb or even megs for the page... HTML5 is going to have many pretty elements to take pages from static to interactive and pretty but for a fraction of the download and ram needed to fire up a flash player.

Given how badly some sites (flash) run on a netbook/low-end pc why people wanted it on mobile is beyond me... especially given the relatively poor state some 3G networks are in....

I will gladly wave goodbye forever to flash - there has to be a better way
 
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