Unless you can point out another tool that can easily create cross-platform advanced animation, interactivity, and handle multimedia files it is the ONLY solution today.
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Flash Soon to Hit the iPad?
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Unless you can point out another tool that can easily create cross-platform advanced animation, interactivity, and handle multimedia files it is the ONLY solution today.
I don't care if you are convinced. I don't need/want flash and I'm happy to see sites finally moving to HTML5. As this trend continues more and more tools and content will appear. So I can't view certain content today...slowly but surely it will all convert and that makes me happy.
If you want to hold on to flash with a stranglehold, that's your choice. Go buy an Android device and join their forum. Your argument is wasted here.
While I would love flash on my iPad.....it would more than likely open the ios platform up vulrability
Yes, I will not miss the need to patch yet another piece of software that is full of vulnerabilities. Windows is enough.
Have to agree, especially after reading that Adobe has rushed out yet another emergency patch (second one in the past nine days) to fix more security problems with Flash. As a long time Windows user, it's wonderful not to have to deal with AV software, firewalls, etc., etc., on my iPad.
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8J2 Safari/6533.18.5)
Skyfire can do flash on iPad.
Skyfire can do flash on iPad.
It's pretty simple. No Flash = No buy. No Silverlight = No buy.
The iPad can not offer full internet experience. And HTML5 cannot replace Flash at all.
You see other tablets who have real multitasking with Flash, so it runs fine.
Let's see if the iPad 3 finally can offer full internet experience instead of being restricted. I'm definitely not going to buy the iPad 2 because it's not good enough.
You can't always rely on Apps for sites that are build around flash. I can't even look on a company website due to Flash missing.
The iPad can not offer full internet experience. And HTML5 cannot replace Flash at all.
You see other tablets who have real multitasking with Flash, so it runs fine.
Let's see if the iPad 3 finally can offer full internet experience instead of being restricted. I'm definitely not going to buy the iPad 2 because it's not good enough.
You can't always rely on Apps for sites that are build around flash. I can't even look on a company website due to Flash missing.
No sir, if this new-fangled machine doesn't have a punch card reader, you won't be getting my hard earned buffalo nickel!
What do you need from Flash that HTML 5 can't do?
Such as?
I'm sure Mr. Jobs and company are crying themselves to sleep, knowing that the dinosaurs of the tech world aren't looking to buy their machine. Oh well, guess they'll have to settle for the millions of market-leading (market-defining, actually) sales they're already achieving.
Give it a year. Flash is dead for general sites. Anyone that's developing a general-purpose site in Flash is an idiot, just as anyone that develops a navigation menu in a Java applet today is an idiot. That doesn't mean that Java is dead, just that its use is restricted for what it's actually needed for. Flash is great for capturing audio streams, working with the webcam, etc. But flash as a site wrapper, flash as a movie player, flash as a navigation system, etc: dead as a doornail.
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Flash is not a dinosaur and it's not dead technology.
If Flash is dead in 10 years, I'm ok with an internet device missing plugins like Flash and Silverlight. But now I need Flash and Silverlight for full internet experience in 2011.
I used my iPod touch for browsing and I just can't visit all the websites that I want on it, including company websites that are in the S&P 500.
You obviously don't read well. Plenty of posters have addressed the broader scope of Flash.
It's still never coming to iOS and end users won't cry about it.
Cool, duck the question!
So, I'll ask again: What can't be done in HTML 5 that you need?
And as I've mentioned many times, this isn't conjecture, these are the facts. Agency briefs are coming in specifying "NO FLASH", and no agencies are pitching Flash solutions (unless absolutely necessary).
But feel free to keep your head buried in the sand.
So you're buying a device what it might potentially do in the future.
HTML 5 can't offer me full internet experience in 2011. That is the fact. If i buy something in 2011, it's for use in 2011, and not in 5-10 years time.
Huh? Where did I talk at all about future potential for devices?
You're a business guy, not a tech guy, aren't you? It explains why you give non-answers like "full internet experience". Care to try again, giving an actual example of something that can't be done in HTML 5? We're all waiting with bated breath.
Gives me the experiences I need. Can't think of a single time lately (maybe 2 years ago...but not lately) I went to a site and said "damn, I can't view flash".
If anything it's "damn, can't view those flash based ads". LOL
Heck, the Internet is not offering you the full Internet experience anymore. I see your point and recently I went to a site that required Flash and couldn't use my iPad.
But at this point, I think that the only thing that would bring Flash to the iPad would be if competing tablets with Flash become wildly successful. And maybe not even then.
On the other hand, the continuing security issues with Flash, among other things, should really spur developers to move on to something better and more reliable as quickly as possible. There is no reason for Flash to be such an important tool in the Internet toolbox.
"full internet experience"
googled it just for fun, came back with more sales speak than i can handle before breakfast
someone needs to lock up the marketing/sales guys again, they're loose
googled it just for fun, came back with more sales speak than i can handle before breakfast
someone needs to lock up the marketing/sales guys again, they're loose
I think the reason this won't happen is because right now Apple thinks HTML5 will replace Flash in a number of areas which Steve had stated as his/their opinion before. Remembering this, I don't think Apple will be getting Flash on the iPad any time in the future.
Truth really is that the majority of the people don't really care as long as the device works smoothly.
I'd argue that it already has happened to a very large degree. Once upon a time, most animated menus and slide shows of websites, and even things like the event calendar, were implemented using Flash. Nowadays most of them are through some combinatsons of HTML/CSS and Javascript. And god knows iOS doesn't suffer from the lack of casual games.
The only place where Flash can really help is fairly large scale cross platform app, for instance full blown PDF newspaper viewer, online photo album creator, etc. The problem is these big scale apps are downright unusable in today's tablets because they are too heavy for tablet CPUs and their UIs aren't optimized for touch screens, so these large cross platform apps are downright unusable in Playbook and Android. (and yes I use them everyday)
Thus at the end, I believe Flash is still around but so far all the tablets have shown there's really no need for Flash in the technical sense. For most stuff where Flash is light enough to be usable, you could replicate the functionality through Javascript, HTML5, etc. For most stuff that cannot be easily replicated through other techs, Flash is too heavy to be usable on mobile platforms.