My take on what many of you are wanting; you can't even see the strips of "Duct Tape" (double-sided) b/c I'm that good!![]()
LOL a post worthy of quoting. I hope all the "OMG upgrade the camera/video function idiots" see this pic.
My take on what many of you are wanting; you can't even see the strips of "Duct Tape" (double-sided) b/c I'm that good!![]()
LOL a post worthy of quoting. I hope all the "OMG upgrade the camera/video function idiots" see this pic.
Here's an interesting article for you to read, and easy to understand. I'm just irritated with all the people who are moaning at Apple saying "give us more megapixels!!!!1!!2!!one!", more megapixels does not always mean better camera.
http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2008/06/18/more-iphone-camera-megapixels-would-be-worse-not-better
Anyway, enjoy![]()
Even the cheapest phones have far superior cameras. i don't know why they haven't chosen to upgrade it.
what i dont understand is why people just dont go out and buy a camera if they want to take high-quality photos.
As is pointed out in the comments below, that's not a terribly good article.
It's certainly true that the amount of megapixels isn't the biggest contributor to the iPhone's camera being poor - the shittly lens, poor CMOS and lack of flash are (and bad software that doesn't offer some of the chipsets native features like video encoding). But that's not exactly a good thing, because none of those problems have been fixed either.
There's an argument in the thread that they wouldn't fit in an iPhone, but they certainly would (3.2 megapixel sensors with better light detection, a much better autofocus lens and a flash fit in a Sony Ericcsson K850i. It is a few mm thicker than the iphone, but the lens is behind the screen - on the iphone it isn't, it's on top, so there's the equivalent thickness available for the camera assembly internally). Nor would it add significantly to costs for manufucture. Which is why many other camera phones are able to offer it, and are better. My crappy old K750i was comfortably able to outperform my iPhone (especially in low light, which is REALLY important for a camera phone), and they cost an awful lot less to manufacture...
However, the notion that the extra noise and loss of light performance would lead to worse performance with more megapixels is flat out wrong. That doesn't apply until much higher megapixel counts (well, unless you're talking about truly terrible CMOS designs like you get in crappy disposable digital cameras). 2mp to 3.5mp would be an improvement. 5mp to 7mp wouldn't be, and indeed arguably counterproductive.
Phazer
Why don't people buy an iPod classic to listen to music? Why don't people buy a Macbook to fetch their email and browse the internet? Why don't people buy a calculator if they want to do some simple calculations? Why don't people buy a PSP or DS if they want to do some gaming?
Your argument is flawed. The point is that the iPhone is a converged device, doing a lot of things. It is brilliant in some things, however it seriously lags behind on other things. They could certainly improve the camera. A number of phones are very near to (cheap) compact camera's. However, the iPhone isn't even close...
This is exactly the same as Apple offering the cheapest Macbook with a combodrive. It is artificial and has nothing to do with cost/profit. Next year on WWDC, Steve will boast about the great camera. How the 5 MP camera with autofocus of the iPhone is so good, that you won't have to buy another camera.
I don't care much about the camera. But I know a lot of people who do care. It is just a shame, that Apple won't make the iPhone as good as they could make it.
It's not the megapixels that bother me about the phone, it's the shutter speed. I think the iPhone takes pretty good still shots but if anything moves, it's blurry.
i think you are missing my point.
a phone is a phone, not a camera.
the iPhone was designed for music and video.
it was not meant to be a high-end camera phone (however that would be good, it would surely increase the price).
as such, buy a camera.
i think you're missing the point. iphone is also a camera, it's just a very very bad one. since they chose to include a camera they should at least have included a half decent one.
the component costs of an iphone are estimated to be at around $100 and att is reported to be paying $525 for each so the price really shouldn't be the reason. far cheaper cell phones have decent cameras.