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I get 60Mbps on my ISPs internet. I use that for either streaming iTunes movies or TV shows to my Apple TV or other things. Again, I have no reason to use WiFi when I get 40Mbps on my T-Mobile phone and i have unlimited data.

I'm running Mavericks on my Mini so I'm not worried about hand off or anything of that nonsense.
Regardless of 60 vs 40, the latency on LTE vs cable is going to be at least 3-4x higher, if you have faster WiFi in terms of speed and latency, I don't see why you wouldn't use it.
 
Yes, nonsense indeed. Stupid convenience, how nonsensical. :rolleyes:

You have a use for it, I don't. To me it's a gimmick. My phone is for making calls. I don't need to make them on my Mini or iPad.

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Regardless of 60 vs 40, the latency on LTE vs cable is going to be at least 3-4x higher, if you have faster WiFi in terms of speed and latency, I don't see why you wouldn't use it.

Latency on my DSL and my T-Mobile LTE are about the same, low 20s. Once again, I'm paying for unlimited data on my phone so I'm going to use it.
 
You have a use for it, I don't. To me it's a gimmick. My phone is for making calls. I don't need to make them on my Mini or iPad.

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Latency on my DSL and my T-Mobile LTE are about the same, low 20s.
60Mbps DSL? Who offers that?
 
CenturyLink. They also have 1Gig. I pay $67 for 60Mbps and phone service. I need to get a new modem to get the faster speeds and I'm not ready to do that yet.
There is no such thing as 1Gbps DSL. I even question your 60Mbps DSL, even though it's technically possible I usually see DSL in the <20Mbps range.
 
There is no such thing as 1Gbps DSL. I even question your 60Mbps DSL, even though it's technically possible I usually see DSL in the <20Mbps range.

Screen cap. I supposes my speed tests are lies as well when they show on average of 56-63Mbps.
 

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Why are we paying for data if it isn't meant to be used? It doesn't matter if we have home internet.

I never turn my 5S on WiFi, it's always on LTE.

I use a good amount of data, but being on LTE constantly will squash battery life. Why not use WiFi at home/work where it's free and isn't draining my battery searching for a signal?

Odd.
 
You have a use for it, I don't. To me it's a gimmick. My phone is for making calls. I don't need to make them on my Mini or iPad.

If your phone is for making calls, I sort of question the entire argument. You don't need a data plan for calls.

Moreover, your premise of "why use my WiFi when I have LTE" is just as easy to flip around. Why bother using LTE when I have WiFi?

That's the crux of the issue. If the only thing that the unlimited LTE gives you is the ability to use it instead of another available data connection, then it is not an advantage. It becomes a circular argument:

"Why do you have unlimited data?"

"Because I use 40gb per month."

"Why do you use 40gb per month?"

"Because I have unlimited data."

Pretty much everyone in this thread touting the supremacy of unlimited plans is doing so while tacitly admitting that they would see absolutely no difference in their daily life if they did not have it. If you and I go through our days and the exact same amount of data goes through our phones, except mine is through a WiFi connection and yours is through LTE, then in the end there is no reason to suggest that one is better than the other.

That's the weirdness of this whole argument. I could understand people flogging about how they NEED unlimited data if they were constantly on the road, away from WiFi, and doing heavy data tasks. For example, let's say you're on the road for several hours a day for work and streaming music is very important, and it's not hard for you to burn through 5 gigs of music a week. That makes sense, because there is no way for that to happen without that LTE connection.

But if you're sitting at home, and I'm sitting at home, and we're both doing everything we could possibly want to do with our phones, the fact that you're doing it on LTE offers no advantage to me.
 
While T-Mobile has unlimited LTE; their service is terrible. So they don't need to cap it since you will never reach much data with them anyway. Trolling.
 
Its not about a third antenna, its that there is not a separate radio to handle data while on a call. Verizon LTE Android phones have been able to do both for quite a while, except for a couple of the brand new phones now like the Droid Turbo since they are pushing VoLTE

Actually, your thinking is a bit out of date. More recent Qualcomm chips can switch between any protocol pretty much on demand for any RF path thats connected. Technically speaking, since the iPhone 5, Apple has had the hardware to do SVDO with the exception of a third antenna.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6295/...ous-voice-and-lte-or-evdo-svlte-svdo-support-

First a bit of history: first generation LTE phones on Verizon used a combination of two cellular architectures to deliver both LTE and CDMA1x/EVDO capabilities. Quite literally there were two basebands, two transmit chains, and at least three antennas: a two-antenna setup for LTE, and 1 transmit for CDMA 1x/EVDO duties. Usually this boiled down to a shared diversity receive antenna for LTE and CDMA 1x/EVDO, and discrete transmit antennas for LTE and CDMA1x/EVDO.

Modernizations from Qualcomm have since reduced the number of digital basebands required to just one (with MSM8960 and MDM9x15) which helped improve battery life, but the end implementation still requires the same three-antenna solution.
 
If your phone is for making calls, I sort of question the entire argument. You don't need a data plan for calls.

Moreover, your premise of "why use my WiFi when I have LTE" is just as easy to flip around. Why bother using LTE when I have WiFi?

That's the crux of the issue. If the only thing that the unlimited LTE gives you is the ability to use it instead of another available data connection, then it is not an advantage. It becomes a circular argument:

"Why do you have unlimited data?"

"Because I use 40gb per month."

"Why do you use 40gb per month?"

"Because I have unlimited data."

Pretty much everyone in this thread touting the supremacy of unlimited plans is doing so while tacitly admitting that they would see absolutely no difference in their daily life if they did not have it. If you and I go through our days and the exact same amount of data goes through our phones, except mine is through a WiFi connection and yours is through LTE, then in the end there is no reason to suggest that one is better than the other.

That's the weirdness of this whole argument. I could understand people flogging about how they NEED unlimited data if they were constantly on the road, away from WiFi, and doing heavy data tasks. For example, let's say you're on the road for several hours a day for work and streaming music is very important, and it's not hard for you to burn through 5 gigs of music a week. That makes sense, because there is no way for that to happen without that LTE connection.

But if you're sitting at home, and I'm sitting at home, and we're both doing everything we could possibly want to do with our phones, the fact that you're doing it on LTE offers no advantage to me.
You are operating under the impression that we (some of us in this thread) purchase unlimited data because we NEED it.

You're right. I have WiFi in most of the places I go. I even used to use an iPhone 3GS as a WiPhone, (Talkatone (Google Voice) for calls/SMS, Messages app for iMessage) I don't NEED unlimited data.

But I have it and I keep it because I WANT it. There is no advantage to having it over LTE, except in the places in between WiFi. But it's what I want.

I suppose that's maybe the difference.
 
If your phone is for making calls, I sort of question the entire argument. You don't need a data plan for calls.

Moreover, your premise of "why use my WiFi when I have LTE" is just as easy to flip around. Why bother using LTE when I have WiFi?

That's the crux of the issue. If the only thing that the unlimited LTE gives you is the ability to use it instead of another available data connection, then it is not an advantage. It becomes a circular argument:

"Why do you have unlimited data?"

"Because I use 40gb per month."

"Why do you use 40gb per month?"

"Because I have unlimited data."

Pretty much everyone in this thread touting the supremacy of unlimited plans is doing so while tacitly admitting that they would see absolutely no difference in their daily life if they did not have it. If you and I go through our days and the exact same amount of data goes through our phones, except mine is through a WiFi connection and yours is through LTE, then in the end there is no reason to suggest that one is better than the other.

That's the weirdness of this whole argument. I could understand people flogging about how they NEED unlimited data if they were constantly on the road, away from WiFi, and doing heavy data tasks. For example, let's say you're on the road for several hours a day for work and streaming music is very important, and it's not hard for you to burn through 5 gigs of music a week. That makes sense, because there is no way for that to happen without that LTE connection.

But if you're sitting at home, and I'm sitting at home, and we're both doing everything we could possibly want to do with our phones, the fact that you're doing it on LTE offers no advantage to me.

I was referring to using my Mac or iPad making calls. My phone is for making calls, not my Mac or iPad. That has nothing to do with how or why I have unlimited data on my phone. There have been a few times when my DSL went down and once when my modem broke. I was able to tether the whole week till I got a new modem.

I pay my bills so I don't need to justify why I have what I have on my phones plan. If you pay my bills, then you can control or dictate what I do. With this said, I am out of this thread because it's just going back and forth needlessly.
 
I use to have T-Mobile. Service in this part of Oklahoma, at the time, was far from useful.

Grandfathered into unlimited Verizon now. Much better in rural areas etc.
 
Unless something has changed that I'm unaware of, even Verizon iPhones drop LTE data when they get a phone call since there's no third antenna to dedicate to a data connection.

The 6 and 6+ both support VoLTE. You have to go to Settings->Cellular->LTE and set to Date+Voice. Then you can use data and voice at the same time on Verizon... when you have LTE service. If you roam into a 3G area while on the call, it will drop the call.
 
You're in the US and you complain about data rates? LOL. Unless you download games and movies using your 3G then I don't see how you can possibly run out with a 5G plan.
You do realize that most plans in Canada are something like 500mb or less and we get charged at least 1.5x as much as US plans? And they charge you a buck for every 10mb over it.
First world problems. :rolleyes:
 
First world problems. :rolleyes:

Almost literally true. The cost of internet access (for those who can get it) seems to be one of the few areas of modern life where residents of North America are worse off than people elsewhere. But on the scale of other problems, it does in fact rank pretty low. I mean, if you're sufficiently comfortable that the worst problem you have is not being able to watch enough movies on your phone, then, really, you have little to complain about.

My wife and I have an old unlimited plan from Verizon, but we don't really use all that much data on the phones. At work and at home there's wifi, and also our imacs and laptops. I don't think I've ever had my laptop somewhere wifi was not available. Also, and this may seem odd, other things to do besides stare at my phone all day. I guess we could use streaming in the car, but it would mean upgrading the stereo, and it doesn't seem worth it when we only drive 50-100 miles a month. Occasionally we think about switching to T-Mobile, but coverage in our area is still not that great.
 
If your phone is for making calls, I sort of question the entire argument. You don't need a data plan for calls.

Moreover, your premise of "why use my WiFi when I have LTE" is just as easy to flip around. Why bother using LTE when I have WiFi?

That's the crux of the issue. If the only thing that the unlimited LTE gives you is the ability to use it instead of another available data connection, then it is not an advantage. It becomes a circular argument:

"Why do you have unlimited data?"

"Because I use 40gb per month."

"Why do you use 40gb per month?"

"Because I have unlimited data."

Pretty much everyone in this thread touting the supremacy of unlimited plans is doing so while tacitly admitting that they would see absolutely no difference in their daily life if they did not have it. If you and I go through our days and the exact same amount of data goes through our phones, except mine is through a WiFi connection and yours is through LTE, then in the end there is no reason to suggest that one is better than the other.

That's the weirdness of this whole argument. I could understand people flogging about how they NEED unlimited data if they were constantly on the road, away from WiFi, and doing heavy data tasks. For example, let's say you're on the road for several hours a day for work and streaming music is very important, and it's not hard for you to burn through 5 gigs of music a week. That makes sense, because there is no way for that to happen without that LTE connection.

But if you're sitting at home, and I'm sitting at home, and we're both doing everything we could possibly want to do with our phones, the fact that you're doing it on LTE offers no advantage to me.


I don't agree. I use my iPhone for the internet. first and foremost. Actually it goes like this:

PRIORITY

#1 Music
#2 Internet
#3 Texting
#4 Videos
#5 Games
#6 Shopping
#7 Scheduling
#8 Recording videos
#9 Work related uses
#10 Porn
#11 Videoconferencing
#12 Calling

Calls are the last thing I do with it.
 
You are operating under the impression that we (some of us in this thread) purchase unlimited data because we NEED it.

You're right. I have WiFi in most of the places I go. I even used to use an iPhone 3GS as a WiPhone, (Talkatone (Google Voice) for calls/SMS, Messages app for iMessage) I don't NEED unlimited data.

But I have it and I keep it because I WANT it. There is no advantage to having it over LTE, except in the places in between WiFi. But it's what I want.

I suppose that's maybe the difference.

And that's A-OK, I am in no way suggesting that anyone ever NOT purchase and use something they want. I'd obviously prefer it myself.

My point was just that the whole "how do you get by without unlimited data?!?" question is rather handily answered by pointing out how rarely any of us are without WiFi connectivity.

I mean heck, I'm on the horns of bumping my data plan up to the 30GB through AT&T because it'd only cost $130/mo instead of the normal $225, just because I would rather enjoy that freedom to not give a damn about my data usage.
 
I NEED unlimited data. It's a necessity. No point in having an iPhone without it.

AT&T has not kept up with the times.

I used to work for AT&T you know, and they had this cockamamie reason why they don't offer unlimited LTE. Which included drawing a diagram

It wasn't until I worked there that I realized how AT&T customers are being cheated.
 
I NEED unlimited data. It's a necessity. No point in having an iPhone without it.

AT&T has not kept up with the times.

I used to work for AT&T you know, and they had this cockamamie reason why they don't offer unlimited LTE. Which included drawing a diagram

It wasn't until I worked there that I realized how AT&T customers are being cheated.
Do you not have internet at home? No TV either? That is the only way I could see someone using that much data every month. I have 4 devices on my ATT account, we have never used more than 8GB combined. Wifi at home. I don't watch stuff on my phone either very frequently since I have TVs... I guess it depends but there is no need for me to have unlimited data.
 
I NEED unlimited data. It's a necessity. No point in having an iPhone without it.

AT&T has not kept up with the times.

I used to work for AT&T you know, and they had this cockamamie reason why they don't offer unlimited LTE. Which included drawing a diagram

It wasn't until I worked there that I realized how AT&T customers are being cheated.

Genuine question. How often in your day are you unable to use WiFi? How much data do you use that HAS to be done via LTE?

You realize there is another thread in this very section with people chuckling at people paying for lots of data because they have WiFi everywhere they go?
 
T-Mobile appears to be the only carrier with unlimited LTE. Everyone else caps you or has you paying too much, but they also don't offer unlimited. My first month on T-Mobile I used 20GB. The month wasn't even up yet. And that was just me using it casually.

So then I started thinking, why was I ever on ATT? It only offers like 5GB. They seem to divvy it out. :/ ?

What do you pay a month?
 
Do you not have internet at home? No TV either? That is the only way I could see someone using that much data every month. I have 4 devices on my ATT account, we have never used more than 8GB combined. Wifi at home. I don't watch stuff on my phone either very frequently since I have TVs... I guess it depends but there is no need for me to have unlimited data.

When "one's" life centers around your phone, I guess it could be possible. But like you I can not see how it could be possible, but then we must also have a life!:p
 
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