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For Microsoft, market dominance doesn't seem enough
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why not? there's nothing comparable on any system. The next best thing will be Halo 2. THE game for Xbox for me is still Dead or Alive, but I beleive it will be Fable and Doom III. And I am also looking forward to Starcraft:Ghost. The Xbox is the only console that I believe will do it justice.
From IGN.COM:
If you opened this article expecting a few pages on comparisons between the three versions of the game, you'll be disappointed. Namco wasn't kidding when they said they were making three versions of the same game. Aside from the three characters (see IGNCube for a closer look at Link and below for some videos of Spawn and Heihachi), all three are practically identical.
All three version feature the same character models, backgrounds, menus and music (aside from the special music used for the exclusive characters), and all three have the same amount of load time between fights -- that is to say, none.
As for halo being too much for a mac, it really depends on your graphics card...lets see, who was it that was demonstrating Doom 3 for the first time? Oh yea that john carmack guy...And it was about what 2 years ago on some (now) dated G4 with a geforce3,hmm, the same one GPU on the Xbox...yea, even though the chips are the same, and the xbox has a P3 at 733 mhz and only 64MB of SHARED MEMORY, I am sure Halo could never be done on a mac, or any (shock!
) PC for that matter.
If you opened this article expecting a few pages on comparisons between the three versions of the game, you'll be disappointed. Namco wasn't kidding when they said they were making three versions of the same game. Aside from the three characters (see IGNCube for a closer look at Link and below for some videos of Spawn and Heihachi), all three are practically identical.
All three version feature the same character models, backgrounds, menus and music (aside from the special music used for the exclusive characters), and all three have the same amount of load time between fights -- that is to say, none.
As for halo being too much for a mac, it really depends on your graphics card...lets see, who was it that was demonstrating Doom 3 for the first time? Oh yea that john carmack guy...And it was about what 2 years ago on some (now) dated G4 with a geforce3,hmm, the same one GPU on the Xbox...yea, even though the chips are the same, and the xbox has a P3 at 733 mhz and only 64MB of SHARED MEMORY, I am sure Halo could never be done on a mac, or any (shock!
) PC for that matter.>>As for halo being too much for a mac, it really depends on your graphics card...lets see, who was it that was demonstrating Doom 3 for the first time?<<
And it ran like crap. Publicity stunt to influence DirectX development.
UT 2K3 is barely acceptable. Maybe 970. GPU is far from all that matters. FSB makes an enormous difference with 3D gaming.
And it ran like crap. Publicity stunt to influence DirectX development.
UT 2K3 is barely acceptable. Maybe 970. GPU is far from all that matters. FSB makes an enormous difference with 3D gaming.
Market is sales per month or quarter. Your marketshare numbers are accurate (but backwards; it's 3% Worldwide, 5% in the US).
But I'm not talking about marketshare. I'm talking about how many computers out there were made by Apple. There's a rather significant difference.
Since this thread is moving toward gaming issues, I'll make some comments in that direction and try to lead things back towards the article that started this thread.
MS is losing in excess of $1 BILLION a year on the XBox. I saw an interview on ScreenSavers with a guy who worked on the project and confirmed this figure. MS is in a position to lose money on ventures like the XBox which ties in with them being able to lose money on their software in order to land big accounts.
Why is MS willing to lose money on the XBox in order to take market share away from Sony?
Sony is making a profit while MS loses money, so what is Microsoft's intention?
It seems to be all about control. The article states that they are to do whatever it takes not to lose sales to Linux, but it obviously isn't about money if they're willing to give the software away.
I don't see gamers moving away from PS2 to the XBox although some may want to have both. Both consoles cost the same, but MS is the one losing money.
The scary thing is how MS keeps going after more and more control. But most people don't look at the big picture. They believe the marketing hype and make their purchases based on the best eye candy.
A consensus against MS products because of their ethics and philosphy of control may be beyond the reach of the average pc/gaming consumer. It's probably also beyond the enterprise customer.
I have the latest version of KDE and XFree86. I'm using the latest nVidia drivers which allows me to take full advantage of my GeForce4 Ti4200 agp card and run my 17" lcd monitor at its highest resolution. I'm using the new Mozilla Firebird browser which is much nicer than IE.
I understand the frustration of learning Linux compared to an OS that you're familiar with, but after you get comfortable with it, you love the configurability and the stability. And it's fast, fast, fast.
(I guess this last part is slightly OT.)
MS is losing in excess of $1 BILLION a year on the XBox. I saw an interview on ScreenSavers with a guy who worked on the project and confirmed this figure. MS is in a position to lose money on ventures like the XBox which ties in with them being able to lose money on their software in order to land big accounts.
Why is MS willing to lose money on the XBox in order to take market share away from Sony?
Sony is making a profit while MS loses money, so what is Microsoft's intention?
It seems to be all about control. The article states that they are to do whatever it takes not to lose sales to Linux, but it obviously isn't about money if they're willing to give the software away.
I don't see gamers moving away from PS2 to the XBox although some may want to have both. Both consoles cost the same, but MS is the one losing money.
The scary thing is how MS keeps going after more and more control. But most people don't look at the big picture. They believe the marketing hype and make their purchases based on the best eye candy.
A consensus against MS products because of their ethics and philosphy of control may be beyond the reach of the average pc/gaming consumer. It's probably also beyond the enterprise customer.
While I never hated Linux, I did find it frustrating in the beginning. There is quite a learning curve involved in order to exploit all its features. I've been using Linux for a little over a year and, while I still consider myself a beginner, I have a beautiful desktop running SuSe 8.1 that is working fine.
I have the latest version of KDE and XFree86. I'm using the latest nVidia drivers which allows me to take full advantage of my GeForce4 Ti4200 agp card and run my 17" lcd monitor at its highest resolution. I'm using the new Mozilla Firebird browser which is much nicer than IE.
I understand the frustration of learning Linux compared to an OS that you're familiar with, but after you get comfortable with it, you love the configurability and the stability. And it's fast, fast, fast.
(I guess this last part is slightly OT.)
-GeeYouEye
The macroeconomic term is "Installed Base". And all numbers point to Apple being 11.6% right now (Operable Macintosh computers worldwide).
Please. You are telling me that there is no game on any system as good as Halo? Gimme a break. There is no way you could ever convince me Xbox is better. The graphics are no better than PS2. Certainly the library is nowhere near that of PS2, and never will be unless M$ attempts to buy every developing house, which oddly enough seems to be what they are trying to do.
I own both and the Xbox hasnt been touched in months.
BTW, Im not a M$ basher, I wanted an Xbox to try it out, but frankly it was a waste of money.
There is no multiplayer FPS as good as Halo IMO. I gave away my PS/2. Nubmer of titles mean nothing to me. Most of them are junk. That's why the game rental industry is booming.
You can take Grand Theft Auto, the sorriest thing to ever happen to gaming. I'll take Halo, Fable, Doom III, Ninja Gaiden, Starcraft:Ghost, Splinter Cell, XBox Live!.
You can take the rest of those Jak and Daxter and Blinx's.
edit: Graphics, you better check your TV. After that, hook 'em up to HDTV. I can give audience to game arguments, but graphics and sound, no contest. Not even debatable.
Nothing beats Halo?! Riiiiight...
Maybe not multiplayer. But then again, I'm not that much into multiplayer. On the single player front, it's definitely still Deus Ex. Nothing beats it. Unreal 2 is nice, Doom 3 will be nicer, but nothing to get too excited about. The graphics of Deus Ex aren't that great, but the story and game play are excellent. Even better than that of Half-Life. This year we'll see DX2, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and HL2; it'll be a great year for intelligent, story-based FPS. Lovin' it!
Maybe not multiplayer. But then again, I'm not that much into multiplayer. On the single player front, it's definitely still Deus Ex. Nothing beats it. Unreal 2 is nice, Doom 3 will be nicer, but nothing to get too excited about. The graphics of Deus Ex aren't that great, but the story and game play are excellent. Even better than that of Half-Life. This year we'll see DX2, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and HL2; it'll be a great year for intelligent, story-based FPS. Lovin' it!
HALO is a great game but people become very addicted to it and eventually it loses interest and simply becomes repetitive. If you have ever played with a HALO addict then you know what I mean. In my humble opinion, just Splinter Cell is enough to buy an XBOX. The fact that you can also play great sports games like football etc is simply a great addition.
Ive got one, 57", $2700 Toshiba, it makes no difference. Besides, graphics are nice, but gameplay is what Im after and M$ is sorely lacking there. And even at that , PS2s graphics are just as good as Xbox.
Thats enough of this arguement for me. Ive had this arguement with ppl before that are Xbox fanboys, there is just no winning. I prefer PS2, as do nearly 10-1 console owners.