For those excited by Ive's iOS 7...

[AlphaVictor87]

No the reason apple made their own maps is because their contract with google was ending and google didn't want to give them features like turn by turn unless it had google branding so apple refused and made their own.

I never said that their contract ending wasn't the reason. I was saying they wanted to do it themselves and offer a sub-par product instead of working with Google and getting something customers would know and love.

which was stupid on Apple's part, and they paid the price.

 

[roxxette]

Why are people so obsessed with widgets? And if Apple adds them to iOS everyone will say they're so out of ideas they're reduced to ripping off Android.

Not only that but widgets just dont fit with how iOS works other than the classic weather widget you can find on cydia; its time to have a finder icon

 

[Rogifan]

Id say they are pretty much out of ideas. One of their new big ideas last year was their own in house mapping with turn by turn. That's not even new technology. The only thing new was the 3D flyover which is a gimmick if anything. Apple was just wanting to do it themselves and it flopped big time.

I would love widgets, which is why i'll be dropping my iPhone and moving to the S4 in June. I love being able to open my nexus 7 and i can see the latest sports score, the weather, my past few emails, upcoming calendar appointments. and i can get all that by not even opening an application.

That's probably why they are obsessed with widgets.

Its getting your information even faster, and that's what people want. Their info right now.

Good for you enjoy your S4. I had widgets on an HTC phone and they were such a battery drain. AT&T told me to disable them. I can see why some people would like widgets but I'd love to see Apple come up with something no one is thinking of, not just copy widgets from Android and flat design UI from Microsoft.

 

[TheMTtakeover]

Im not looking for a MASSIVE OMG overhaul to the iOS UI. But these subtle changes would be nice..

http://th07.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE..._settings_app_by_theintenseplayer-d5r07vl.png
http://th08.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE...battery_alert_by_theintenseplayer-d5rx7ys.png
http://th07.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE...pt__dashboard_by_theintenseplayer-d5gzwlt.png

I really like the idea of the first two, small changes that make for an overall heightened experience.

 

[AlphaVictor87]

Good for you enjoy your S4. I had widgets on an HTC phone and they were such a battery drain. AT&T told me to disable them. I can see why some people would like widgets but I'd love to see Apple come up with something no one is thinking of, not just copy widgets from Android and flat design UI from Microsoft.

I would very much agree with you on that point.

 

[bozzykid]

Why are people so obsessed with widgets? And if Apple adds them to iOS everyone will say they're so out of ideas they're reduced to ripping off Android.

Who said Apple will call them widgets? What ever they call them, they will come to iOS at some point. Whether it is widgets, live tiles, etc, Apple has to bring live information to the homescreen. This is what people have come to expect with all modern mobile operating systems. There is a reason it is being done in WP, Android, and BB 10. People don't want to spend their entire time on a phone opening and closing apps. Sometimes, they just want to glance at their phone to see if there is anything new that needs their attention. I think some people want to say how terrible existing widgets would be in the iOS ecosystem but that is not the only way to bring live information to the homescreen.

 

[Rogifan]

I never said that their contract ending wasn't the reason. I was saying they wanted to do it themselves and offer a sub-par product instead of working with Google and getting something customers would know and love.

which was stupid on Apple's part, and they paid the price.

Working with Google so iPhone can become more of a Google phone? Apple plays the long game. And having their own services rather than being tied to Google is a good thing. Especially now that Google is a direct competitor in the smartphone space.

 

[FreeState]

Considering this, what do you expect from iOS 7? Will it be another iOS 6? Or something more?

Apple doesnt do complete UI makeovers. Look at the history of Apple. OSXs UI is still based and similar to OS 7, 6 etc. Apple builds and pre-existing design and makes subtle changes as it goes.

 

[AlphaVictor87]

Working with Google so iPhone can become more of a Google phone? Apple plays the long game. And having their own services rather than being tied to Google is a good thing. Especially now that Google is a direct competitor in the smartphone space.

No but they released an unfinished product. They could have at least extended their contract with google for another year or 2 and then cut them out.

Also from what i understand they still had a year to go, and decided to end the relationship early.

 

[rtomyj]

No but they released an unfinished product. They could have at least extended their contract with google for another year or 2 and then cut them out.

Also from what i understand they still had a year to go, and decided to end the relationship early.

Could that one year be for the people still stuck on iOS 5 and below? They believed it was ready, so they released it. Wasn't up to par and they paid the price. They have been fixing it and it has been better than GMaps for me and others.

 

[kevpan815]

Article: http://www.businessinsider.com/apples-ios-7-wont-be-a-major-overhaul-2013-3

It seems that a lot of people on here expect iOS 7 to be fresh and new due to Forstall's ouster and Ive's inclusion as part of the iOS team, but as the article linked above states, not much can be done in 6 months of product development. So don't be disappointed for WWDC this year.

Considering this, what do you expect from iOS 7? Will it be another iOS 6? Or something more?

Why do you guys keep talking about IOS 7 when us Apple Developers still have NOT seen an Update to IOS 6.1.3 Beta 2 For almost a whole month now! Just FYI!

 

[cynics]

I don't expect much. The hardware is designed for current software. Even mild advancements will have an impact on the battery.

I wouldnt mind to see an update to ALL the native apps. Then maybe some toggles in the notification center. Fix things that are broke like Facebook notification sounds (I'd blame the app if apple didn't tout about FB integration with iOS 6).

Better email app (attach button for more the pics and video), better message app (time stamps), love of god a better camera roll (DATES, auto organization), better browser (settings in app), better navigation (night mode, avoidances etc), better App Store (faster), better camera (iso, white balance etc), better apple store app (iPad support), etc etc...

If they just took the time to perfect native apps I'd be highly impressed.

 

[bozzykid]

Why do you guys keep talking about IOS 7 when us Apple Developers still have NOT seen an Update to IOS 6.1.3 Beta 2 For almost a whole month now! Just FYI!

6.1.3 is just a bug fix update. It isn't a high priority. And the development team working on iOS 7 is not same group issuing bug fix betas to 6.x.

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I don't expect much. The hardware is designed for current software. Even mild advancements will have an impact on the battery.

That simply isn't true. There are lots of ways to add features that do not impact battery life. Unless Apple's iOS team is full of a bunch of lazy and uneducated developers, they can add more advanced features without affecting battery life.

 

[cynics]

That simply isn't true. There are lots of ways to add features that do not impact battery life. Unless Apple's iOS team is full of a bunch of lazy and uneducated developers, they can add more advanced features without affecting battery life.

There is nothing they can do to make iOS less stale as some would say without using more energy.

I'm not disagreeing with you that features that don't effect battery can't be added. Like defaults, being able to place icons anywhere, file system or all the updates I mentioned in my last post. But none of them are a refresh of iOS, they are things all other mobile OS's already have, no one will be impressed by them.

Kinda like how jail breaking and tweaking up the home screens drains the battery more.

All of apples big updates use a lot of battery (Siri, maps) then was used before there addition. Why do you think them adding more features like that won't use battery, effectively defining physics if you will? Cost more to do more...

 

[Abazigal]

iOS 6 has "over 200 new features", as did iOS 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, blah blah.

Only a handful will be large features.

Not really. It's just that every new feature they demo is actually a combination of 7-8 new features.

 

[geoluv]

Needs a customizable widget board and also maybe mini widget options for notification bar? Some way to sync reminders with google tasks. Blanket ac3 audio license would be nice. Kill all button for the multitask bar. Built in google video chat and google voice but that will never happen. Option to make google maps default again, honestly f@&$ them for taking it away like little toddlers fighting over a sand box. More options for the status bar like date and temp and wifi bar not covering up cell signal indicator. More options in iCloud for what apps/functions use wifi vs cellular and when. Shared photo streams that can have photos added by the people they are shared with, not just the person who made the stream.

Indicator led for the ip5s. Hardware decode for ALL video types.

 

[Bahroo]

First of all Apple doesnt have to completly redesign iOS..they can defitnetly change some of the way it looks and functions within months.

 

[cole01]

I just want a live weather and clock icon!

 

[Dulcimer]

I just want a live weather and clock icon!

But you can see the time any time by looking at the status bar

 

[cole01]

But you can see the time any time by looking at the status bar

Yeah, that's true...but I figure if they do the weather one it would be stupid to leave the clock always showing 10:15.

 

[irDigital0l]

But you can see the time any time by looking at the status bar

And can the iPhone get the iPad's Clock icon?

Looks way better...

 

[TennisandMusic]

Where did you hear that?

Do you post on Neogaf with this avatar?

 

[Dulcimer]

Yeah, that's true...but I figure if they do the weather one it would be stupid to leave the clock always showing 10:15.

True. Although everyone on here says that live widgets/app icons cost precious battery. Oh well. If there's one innovation I'd like to see from Apple, it'd be in battery tech. Although that's out of the scope of this thread.

 

[Breaking Good]

There is nothing they can do to make iOS less stale as some would say without using more energy.

I'm not disagreeing with you that features that don't effect battery can't be added. Like defaults, being able to place icons anywhere, file system or all the updates I mentioned in my last post. But none of them are a refresh of iOS, they are things all other mobile OS's already have, no one will be impressed by them.

Kinda like how jail breaking and tweaking up the home screens drains the battery more.

All of apples big updates use a lot of battery (Siri, maps) then was used before there addition. Why do you think them adding more features like that won't use battery, effectively defining physics if you will? Cost more to do more...

Yep. I added all those fancy widgets to my Moto Droid Razr. Then took them all off when I discovered I couldn't get 24 hours of battery life with light use.

By contrast, my employer issued iPhone 4 easily goes five days on a charge with the same usage pattern as the Razr.

iOS sucks until you actually try to use Android. I can't tell you the number of hours I've spent scouring the Internet trying to every little toggle possible to help improve battery life on this Razr.

 

[Grolubao]

I don't get it. We have multiple single developers that create this awesome Jailbreak tweaks and a full team of hundreds of people cannot overhaul iOS?