For those questioning screen real-estate/size

Discussion in 'MacBook' started by bobsaget123, Apr 21, 2015.

  1. bobsaget123 macrumors member

    Dec 17, 2012
    I had mentioned this in my other thread, but felt it could be helpful to post in its own thread as I know I had some concerns regarding this topic.

    Before I had seen a new MacBook, I thought the 12'' screen would be a deal-breaker as I was coming from a non-retina 15''. I actually had no intentions in buying the new MacBook, however, I stopped by the Apple store to take a look and instantly knew it would be my new laptop. I think the thing that sold me was the fact that at the highest resolution (1440x900) on the new MacBook is actually the same as that on my old 15'' MacBook, and the screen real-estate is actually identical (things are just a bit smaller). Of course, having things smaller is a small sacrifice, but the new MacBook is so much lighter in my bag and easier to carry, as well as with a brilliant retina screen, which makes it a very fair trade-off in my opinion.

    Anyways, wanted to include this comparison picture of the same website loaded up so you can get an idea of what convinced me to get the new MacBook, and I hope it helps some of you.

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  2. snapper64 macrumors regular

    Aug 28, 2007
    Any chance you take another picture with the macbook resting on some paper or something so that the base of the displays line up?

    I'm thinking of switching from my 15" Pro too :)
  3. blulegend macrumors regular

    Apr 15, 2008
    I made the same switch. Going from 5.6lbs to a hair over 2lbs is amazing. The battery seems to last a similar amount of time unfortunately. I was hoping for it to be much longer but oh well. I'm also having a bit of trouble getting used to the 1440x900 on my rMB because it is a tad hard to see for me. Overall, a nice switch. Every once in a while, I think about that 13" MBA for more battery and a larger screen. But the retina and lighter package keeps the rMB ahead.
  4. xmichaelp macrumors 68000


    Jul 10, 2012
    Is there much difference in clarity between best for retina and scaled resolutions?
  5. TEBnewyork macrumors regular

    Jun 13, 2009
    The footprint of a MBA is actually bigger than a 13" MBP. I have them both and was very surprised. If I needed a new 13" machine today I would get the rMBP over the MBA. Never thought I would say that but the size of the MBP came down. Battery got better and of course you get the retina display which is WAY better. I replaced the 13" MBA with the 12 MacBook and I'm very happy about it.
  6. PDFierro macrumors 68040

    Sep 8, 2009
    I completely agree. I'm coming from the 13" rMBP and thought maybe a 12" display would be too small. But as soon as Istarted using it in the store, I knew I was wrong.
  7. matt2053 macrumors 6502a

    Jul 8, 2012
    No, it isn't noticeable to me.
  8. ptdebate macrumors 6502


    Jul 3, 2014
    Dallas, Texas
    Wait, but I thought the native resolution of the rMB was 2304x1440, not 1440x900...
  9. PDFierro macrumors 68040

    Sep 8, 2009
    They were talking about the 'Looks like' resolution, which can indeed go up to 1440x900.
  10. Mcdevidr macrumors 6502a

    Nov 27, 2013
    This thing is an amazing device, here is a shot of my desktop at 1920x1200. Runs great without slowdowns. Things are a bit small but I can't stop using it at this res it is great to have this many things open on such a small screen and have them this sharp.

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  11. saifrc macrumors member

    Jul 20, 2010
    This looks great. Which tool are you using to set this resolution? It looks like there are multiple options; not sure which is best. Thanks!
  12. Mcdevidr macrumors 6502a

    Nov 27, 2013
    Switch res x. I can't imagine I'll keep it at that all the time but for doing side by side stuff it may eliminate me needing to use Duet.
  13. Nicky G macrumors 6502a

    Nicky G

    Mar 24, 2002
    Baltimore & NYC
    I'm running in "apparently 1152 x 720" mode to get the crispest possible display, and frankly so far everything is fine. I don't feel constrained.
  14. 3bs macrumors 603


    May 20, 2011
    Dublin, Ireland
    What do you mean by crispest? I am on 1440x900 on mr 13" rMBP and I honestly can't tell the difference from the default 1280x800 other than the change in size of things obviously. I don't see any pixelation.


    I only recently found out you can do this on retina screens and tbh I got used to the switch from 1280x800 > 1440x900 pretty fast. I'm not sure if your experience will be the same but I do suggest you give it at least a day to see if you can get used to it. I am using a 13" rMBP though so it makes a difference have a bigger overall screen with those dimensions.
  15. EnderTW, Apr 22, 2015
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2015

    EnderTW macrumors 6502

    Jun 30, 2007
    Hmm not technically true, even the 1152 x 720 mode is not a true 1/2th on the x and y. Apple is using their scaling software to simulate the resolution. Whereas the 13 inch mbpr had 2560 x 1600 which was a perfect 1280x800 (1/2 on x and y).

    Honestly, Apple did such a good job you can't tell a difference either way.

    I didn't explain that correctly, yes, if they offered a 1152 x 720, that would be the 1/2 split on x and y, but they don't, unless you're manually setting that? Which could be better. However Apple does a great job already, i would leave it as is. tbh.
  16. Beau10 macrumors 6502a

    Apr 6, 2008
    Downtown San Diego

    1152 * 2 = 2304
    720 * 2 = 1440

    2304 x 1440 is the native res.
  17. Nicky G macrumors 6502a

    Nicky G

    Mar 24, 2002
    Baltimore & NYC
    They DO offer an "apparent 1152 x 720" mode -- it's the scaling option one to the left of the "default" setting.
  18. 212rikanmofo macrumors 65816

    Jan 31, 2003
    Wow, 1920x1200 on the new MacBook? At this resolution can you still call it "RETINA"? I mean is it still sharp and clear?
  19. Nicky G macrumors 6502a

    Nicky G

    Mar 24, 2002
    Baltimore & NYC
    I do find the other modes to be a little more fuzzy than the 1/2 x, 1/2 y mode.
  20. Hieveryone macrumors 68040

    Apr 11, 2014
    Seems to be pretty decent real estate to me. 12" wasn't as small as I thought.

    IMO there's not too much a difference between 12" and 13"

    But there's a big diff between 12" and 11"

    The 11" to me is just awful (MBA)
  21. Mcdevidr macrumors 6502a

    Nov 27, 2013
    It's as sharp as the 15.4 at the same resolution. It's not as sharp as 1440x900. It is still decent though.
  22. vanimal macrumors 6502a

    Sep 12, 2014

    Maybe I'm adding wrong, but isn't the 11" 11.6"? So that would be closer to the 12". Where the 13 is 1.3" bigger than the 12" MBR.

    I think i got that right. I have had a 13" MBA and a 11". And had a chance to play with the 12" MBR in store numerous times. I found the 13" screen to be Noticeably bigger than the MBR 12". The bigger bezels add to the equation but 1.3" adds up.

    Off the top of my head i don't know all the resolution numbers, just physical screen to screen.

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