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I think Apple are doing themselves a disservice here.

Basically, plenty of people will hold back on purchasing an iMac due to the uncertainty surrounding the next release. This has to be hurting sales.

All they need to do is indicate if it will be this year or next, and sales will free up. Plenty of us can't wait a year so will go out and buy now if it's 2013.
 
I'm planning on an upgrade in early fall and I'm totally up in the air as to what that will be right now.

I've got an OLD iMac that needs to be replaced (late 2006 2.1ghz Core2Duo) though with the addition of an SSD it still holds up surprisingly well for Photoshop/Illustrator and even some 3d work in Maya and Modo. Most of my 2d design and development work is done on my 13" Aluminum MacBook (just before it was rebadged as the 13" MBP).

My plan was to sell off the iMac cheaply and replace it with the updated 21.5" model but now that machine may or may not exist. I've tossed around getting the MBP with Retina and hooking up a display to it but the jury is still out as to what non-Retina apps will look like on the Retina display. It seems almost pointless to get the non-Retina MBP as it's obviously hardware on it's way out and the Retina is only a few hundred more so I'm left sort of twiddling my thumbs.

I'm honestly tempted to sell off everything, get an Air and hook a display up to it for the time being.
 
I think Apple are doing themselves a disservice here.

Basically, plenty of people will hold back on purchasing an iMac due to the uncertainty surrounding the next release. This has to be hurting sales.

All they need to do is indicate if it will be this year or next, and sales will free up. Plenty of us can't wait a year so will go out and buy now if it's 2013.

I a complete newbie to this..like most on here still waiting to buy my first imac.

my thoughts on this quote:-

Updates to add email from Apple CEO Tim Cook to a customer re: Mac Pro. Also Apple corrects to say desktop updates for 2013 applies only to Mac Pro and not iMac.

If they not updating imac in 2013 - they would have to do it this year as they are not going to wait 3 years - ie..2014 - my guess is update with ML in july. :)
 
I think Apple are doing themselves a disservice here.

Basically, plenty of people will hold back on purchasing an iMac due to the uncertainty surrounding the next release. This has to be hurting sales.

All they need to do is indicate if it will be this year or next, and sales will free up. Plenty of us can't wait a year so will go out and buy now if it's 2013.

Not everyone is reading the forums. Most people just go out and buy stuff. Its sad, but its how it works...
 
I'm waiting patiently... or at least as patiently as possible :p

Fortunately my "Early 2009" 24" iMac is still going strong. It was chugging pretty hard (especially w/ Aperture) with 4GB of RAM, but with 8GB it runs great again.

Just put a SSD in mine and it flies even faster ;)
 
Apple have kinda given me no choice but to wait till Mountain Lion release. After I killed my MBP with tea during a Diablo 3 session last month (one of the biggest oh ***** moments - hope nobody else goes through that), I said, right, let's wait till after WWDC and get either a new MBP or an iMac. Then the rMBP got released and no iMac. So I thought, new rMBP here I come...then 3 to 4 week delivery wait...damn it.

I'd prefer the iMac because I can't spill tea on it so that instantly moves it up on the list and my MBP literally never moved from the desk so I don't need the portability, but the rMBP looks sweet....Decision decisions...
 
The new iMac, if it does come this year will just be a spec upgrade. Apple will not do a new iMac design so close to the new macpro design refresh. So, we know it will be a spec upgrade.

Now, what is the best time for a spec upgrade? Mountain lion release date. This way it will help sell more ML copies and that is good for Apple. Other times are end of summer and iphone 5 release date, but I can't wait that long! So...

Also, when you buy a imac, you can return in 14 days if you want to swap.

So my plan is:
Buy the imac 2 weeks before mountain lion release. If the new imac is released at the same time as mountain lion, I swap for the new one. Otherwise The old iMac will still be relevent for this year and I will be happy with it.

What do you guys think?

What is your strategy?

Good plan, do you know of the exact new iMac release date?
 
Apple have kinda given me no choice but to wait till Mountain Lion release. After I killed my MBP with tea during a Diablo 3 session last month (one of the biggest oh ***** moments - hope nobody else goes through that), I said, right, let's wait till after WWDC and get either a new MBP or an iMac. Then the rMBP got released and no iMac. So I thought, new rMBP here I come...then 3 to 4 week delivery wait...damn it.

I'd prefer the iMac because I can't spill tea on it so that instantly moves it up on the list and my MBP literally never moved from the desk so I don't need the portability, but the rMBP looks sweet....Decision decisions...

Damn, did the tea really kill the whole thing? Fry the logic board or something? That's insane.
 
Good plan, do you know of the exact new iMac release date?



I don't, and that is the problem really.

Could be with mountain lion, could be end of summer, could be with iphone 5, could be days before christmas, or even 2013. Nobody knows for sure...
 
I'm planning on an upgrade in early fall and I'm totally up in the air as to what that will be right now.

I've got an OLD iMac that needs to be replaced (late 2006 2.1ghz Core2Duo) though with the addition of an SSD it still holds up surprisingly well for Photoshop/Illustrator and even some 3d work in Maya and Modo. Most of my 2d design and development work is done on my 13" Aluminum MacBook (just before it was rebadged as the 13" MBP).

My plan was to sell off the iMac cheaply and replace it with the updated 21.5" model but now that machine may or may not exist. I've tossed around getting the MBP with Retina and hooking up a display to it but the jury is still out as to what non-Retina apps will look like on the Retina display. It seems almost pointless to get the non-Retina MBP as it's obviously hardware on it's way out and the Retina is only a few hundred more so I'm left sort of twiddling my thumbs.

I'm honestly tempted to sell off everything, get an Air and hook a display up to it for the time being.

Fig, I am like you ... and thinking much the same, except substitute a re-conditioned for the Air ... and got a price for a Dell 27" monitor, that is an IPS monitor.

My 2006 I think 24" 2.16MHZ only has I think 2GB of RAM. Its drive is gone and I boot off a USB port, from a 2GB USB 3 drive. I have a Firewire Raid mirrored setup with an older OS on it, and my important files. I have other computers too, but that is the one I use at home, and for my photography. I want to get my videos in order too, something I've put off for many years.

I could get a macbook pro refurb with a screen as good as today's imacs, and with Adobe certification (not sure though if they screens are so well built) for the price of a refurb iMac. And there is utility in the Macbook too. I could then sell a macbook I use, and then the 24". Although I worry about selling the 24" without a good drive inside it. The old one does work, but its flakey, and I'd need to replace it in good conscience ... but the time of adding a drive, and cost of doing so concerns me.

Oh well ... if only Apple would talk to its customers, and let us know what the hell they are going to do. Its not as if this iMac sector is full of innovation. And its not as if there is a Power Computing at loggerheads with Apple in a performance race. And people are so frustrated, some consider leaving the Apple environment. And because its difficult - with files and software - to leave, that leaves a really bad taste. And that makes Apple customers tell others, to stick with Windoze.

All because Apple cannot communicate with its loyal customers. Apple has totally lost its customer focus. They seem dominated by some distant design gurus, instead of being focused in our stable market here - the desktop arena - where customers simply want to know what Apple are going to do, and when.

Its hardly rocket science to communicate with your customers about what you are going †o do for them. Instead, we get spin and silence, and schoolboy secrecy. Its totally unprofessional.
 
Although I worry about selling the 24" without a good drive inside it. The old one does work, but its flakey, and I'd need to replace it in good conscience ... but the time of adding a drive, and cost of doing so concerns me

If you're at all technically proficient replacing the hard drive is really pretty easy, just a bit of a pain in the butt. There's some good breakdowns around the web at iFixIt and other places on how to do it, I put an SSD in my '06 in about an hour without having much of an idea of what I was doing other than following along step by step.

There's some little weird things to figure out and I have an extra screw or two now, but overall it wasn't that bad and for me the SSD made a huge speed difference (as others have mentioned) that's helping me get by in the interim.
 
For people who are thinking about selling old macs, aren't u worried about somebody recovering ur data even if u erased it??
 
Damn, did the tea really kill the whole thing? Fry the logic board or something? That's insane.

Yep, a nearly full cup went and it unfortunately fried the logic board. :( Spilled all over the keyboard and speakers and over the back into the bit under the screen. I had it close to the wall as well so the water wave "bounced" off the wall and into that gap.

Sad days.
 
few questions..

if Apple did release a new design iMac would it be a silent update or at an event?

would Apple put out a new design first and then make it Retina in future update or is it most likely going to be a Retina iMac new look straight away like Retina MBP?
 
if Apple did release a new design iMac would it be a silent update or at an event?

would Apple put out a new design first and then make it Retina in future update or is it most likely going to be a Retina iMac new look straight away like Retina MBP?

95% probability the new iMac is the non-Retina, same chasis, silent update.

The Retina screen would probably accompany a redesign.
 
People, settle down!!!
Geek bench just put out results on a 27 inch low end machine that was faster than the current top model. Not by much but probably because it was pushing a retina display. Just wait. I'm telling you that geek bench doesn't test machines so they can release them a year later. It's ready and will be released after the Retina Mac Book gets its moment in the spotlight.
 
People, settle down!!!
Geek bench just put out results on a 27 inch low end machine that was faster than the current top model. Not by much but probably because it was pushing a retina display. Just wait. I'm telling you that geek bench doesn't test machines so they can release them a year later. It's ready and will be released after the Retina Mac Book gets its moment in the spotlight.

Geekbench is a CPU/architecture test and has nothing to do with the GPU or the screen..
 
Also, iMac had always been about a gorgeous display, all the way back to the original iMac. It was a big part of steve jobs pride in the iMac. They are going to have retina with a premium price tag. They spend 100s of millions a year to develop products and they do know that you have to space your products out. If they released the iMac retina with the MBP it would halt sales of the MBP as it is a less expensive option for an unbelievable machine. If those think it's going to be a year from now most will run out and buy up their old stock and help their 2nd quarter earnings. The iMac is what will help their 3 rd quarter earnings, and iPhone will help the fourth quarter. Give Apple a little bit of respect with regards to having a business plan too. Tim Cook clarified that the Mac Pro is coming in 2013 not the IMac. The Apple exec said they are working on redesigns for both IMac and Mac pro. He said that the Mac Pro is coming in 2013. Pogue updated his statements. If Apple goes back and looks at Video and sees their execs with loose lips talking to Pogue they would be fired as Tim Cook claims they are doubling down on secrecy.
One more thought. When your kids or wife are trying to pry to find out what you got them for their birthday do you tell them the truth or lie to them. I think Apples strategy about doubling down on secrecy is a campaign designed to lie to the press enough that nobody knows what is rumor true or lies. It's what I would do. I would teach my execs to leak nothing and when asked lie in a way that makes the reporter look bad when the truth comes out.
 
People, settle down!!!
Geek bench just put out results on a 27 inch low end machine that was faster than the current top model. Not by much but probably because it was pushing a retina display. Just wait. I'm telling you that geek bench doesn't test machines so they can release them a year later. It's ready and will be released after the Retina Mac Book gets its moment in the spotlight.

What results? The only ones I'm aware of were from mid May.
 
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