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Hi, just to clarify a few points, 1st, the original poster davidjearly is not associated with me in any way except that he did purchase a code from my store and was happy with the sale.
2nd, these vouchers are not stolen or purchased by credit card.
3rd, i sell them at this price because i cant sell them for a better price since ebay is flooded with vouchers.
4th. They are genuine voucher codes and are not generated and apple will not block your account for using them.
I am not going to discuss who I purchased them from and for how much for obv reasons.
I will not post a link to my site because this is not an advertisement. I just wanted to clear a few thing up.
2nd, these vouchers are not stolen or purchased by credit card.
3rd, i sell them at this price because i cant sell them for a better price since ebay is flooded with vouchers.
4th. They are genuine voucher codes and are not generated and apple will not block your account for using them.
I am not going to discuss who I purchased them from and for how much for obv reasons.
I will not post a link to my site because this is not an advertisement. I just wanted to clear a few thing up.
I cannot comprehend how anyone would even entertain the notion that this is a legit activity. No one buys hundreds of vouchers, that they do not want, and then proceeds to sell them at a loss.
Now if it was just a few that you didn't want, I'd say its plausible - but again, hundreds? Even if you don't use iTunes, most individuals would find it smarter to just buy the thousands of pounds worth of stuff from there than sell them at a 65% loss time and time again.
We're dealing with tens of thousands of pounds here; that really makes the entire thing that less plausible. No one wants to lose that kind of money (even those that could).
I'm sorry, but you might want to try the "they fell off the back of the truck" story next time - it might be more plausible.
Now if it was just a few that you didn't want, I'd say its plausible - but again, hundreds? Even if you don't use iTunes, most individuals would find it smarter to just buy the thousands of pounds worth of stuff from there than sell them at a 65% loss time and time again.
We're dealing with tens of thousands of pounds here; that really makes the entire thing that less plausible. No one wants to lose that kind of money (even those that could).
I'm sorry, but you might want to try the "they fell off the back of the truck" story next time - it might be more plausible.
Absolute BS. I have only ever had one eBay transaction go wrong, and it was for a total of £300. The seller closed his account and removed all funds, I was told by PayPal. I had to wait 30 days, but I got a FULL refund in the end.
You are wrong. The clause above doesn't state that they won't pay more than what the seller has available, it states they won't pay more than the amount of the claim being made.
A bit OT, but I just looked at your item on ebay, and your based in rochdale, same here, small world.
GoCubsGo
macrumors Nehalem
I think that you're expressing something that should really be chalked up to skepticism. It is unfair for you to say that some forum members are arrogant based on their skepticism. In truth, if you can remove yourself from this world of there is no way this is a scam because i have my code for a second then you may be able to see where most people have come from.
Let it be said that if this was a US deal I would be posting this while checking out through paypal. In other words, I'd jump on it too. I would be skeptic until I found that it worked for a few. I'd chance my $35 just because 5-10 others did it before me. However, I would still return and respond to your overly arrogant statement. The reason why I base your statement arrogant over the statements of others is that you seem to believe that this deal is not at all worth the skepticism that it has generated. I mean really, if you can just remove yourself for a second you'll see that giving $35 to someone who undoubtedly would have had to pay at least $95 for an item with some sort of bulk discount is absurd. The proof is that you paid and got your code and now show a balance of $109. Great for you. It worked and there is no doubt that it'll work 10 times over for other UK'ers. However, if you consider this again, $35 for $100 hardly seems like the perfect ebayer is playing good business-person there. No one goes into business to take more than a 50% cut on their profit. No one. If you do, you're stupid and should find another hobby.
If you step back you'll see that this thread is full of skeptic people, not arrogant as you seem to think. While the statements clearly sound cynical, they hardly sound arrogant. You cannot blame anyone for thinking that this is a deal that isn't all that legit. $35 for $100, eBay, UK only, and in the end, while your balance works now, there is nothing to say that Apple won't somehow track this down and remove your balance. While you won't be in the wrong, you simply bought something off ebay. In the US the first thing the police would ask you while you're walking away from the "back of the van" with your goods is, "how could you believe that there wasn't something seriously wrong with this deal.?" Buying stolen goods and having knowledge of such is actually against the law in the US. It probably won't land you much punishment, but I do know people who have been charged for it. Their defense was simply put that they did not know. But then again, they also bought $1000 car stereos for $300 so how could you not?
Do you kind of see the point? Don't let skepticism and cynicism's be confused for arrogance. As I said before, I'd wonder if the codes could be tracked and disabled. I also believe as before that it is great you got this deal and if I were in the UK I would jump on it too despite what I said about stolen goods. I'm only being honest and possibly arrogant, but that's me in a nutshell. 🙂 That said, enjoy your good deal, don't worry about what others say. Buy another $100 voucher for all we care and be done with it. As long as the codes work and you're getting what, if not more, than you paid for then all should be right in your world.
Arrogance is arrogance. Being skeptical is another thing entirely.
I am not saying there is no way this is some sort of scam, I just think it to be very unlikely.
Let me give you some examples:
"This is 100% a scam" = Arrogance
"Tread lightly, this sounds dubious" = Skeptical
You see the difference?
If someone wants to chime in, saying they think this could be dodgy, well thats fair enough. But to say it is without a doubt a scam is just sheer arrogance.
Oh and to clear things up...
Q. Have I taken a step back from this and thought it over?
A. Yes, before I made the purchase.
Q. Am I confused between skepticism and arrogance?
A. No, but I think others clearly are.
Q. Do I have any knowledge of this being a scam?
A. No, quite the contrary going on the sellers feedback and PayPal assurance.
Q. Do I care if other MR members purchase this voucher or not?
A. No, absolutely not.
I think we've said enough about this now.
Abstract
macrumors Penryn
I think this is a scam. Selling hundreds of £100 vouchers for £35? I would understand selling one at that price (actually, I wouldn't, but anyway....), definitely not hundreds of them. How would you get hundreds of them, and why would you sell them at that price?
Anyway, their face value of £100, the selling price of £35, and the quantity of vouchers sold so far means this deal has a better chance to be dodgy than not. That's not arrogance. That's sense.
What's your reason for thinking that this being a scam is "very unlikely"? Do you have any reasons, or is your gut feeling good enough for you? Going by your gut feeling and saying that this is "very unlikely" to be a scam is also arrogant, you realize. Why, because you say it is? Because you believe it is?
I'll be dining with the skeptics tonight.
Anyway, their face value of £100, the selling price of £35, and the quantity of vouchers sold so far means this deal has a better chance to be dodgy than not. That's not arrogance. That's sense.
What's your reason for thinking that this being a scam is "very unlikely"? Do you have any reasons, or is your gut feeling good enough for you? Going by your gut feeling and saying that this is "very unlikely" to be a scam is also arrogant, you realize. Why, because you say it is? Because you believe it is?
I'll be dining with the skeptics tonight.
CanadaRAM
macrumors G5
What part of "to the extent that the seller has funds in their account" don't you get? That explicitly releases PayPal from paying you anything if the seller doesn't have funds in their account. Your single experience does not alter the fact that PayPal's terms and conditions include a number of serious exclusions that mean that PayPal don't have to pay you back.
xJulianx
macrumors 6502a
You need to remember that this guy has only been a member of eBay for 2 weeks, it's not hard for someone to shift hundreds of items in that time before eBay shut their account down due to fraudulent behaviour. Not saying this is necessarily the case, just that you can't go on feedback alone.
simontarr
macrumors 6502
AndyR
macrumors 6502a
I tried it as well, thought it was worth the risk.
Code came through in seconds and I'm now £100 in credit on iTunes. Still can't believe its 100% legit but if not eBay should be removing it. They've removed some of my stuff before that was legit so they should have removed this is its glaringly not legit.
Code came through in seconds and I'm now £100 in credit on iTunes. Still can't believe its 100% legit but if not eBay should be removing it. They've removed some of my stuff before that was legit so they should have removed this is its glaringly not legit.
You are quoting the 'Buyer Complaint Policy', which only covers up to £120 and is for items not covered by the 'PayPal Buyer Protection Policy', which protects you up to £500. This item is covered by the latter, and not the former, for which there are different terms and conditions. In short, where eligible PayPal will refund regardless of what is available in the sellers account.
It is YOU who is not getting this and who is blatently unable to differentiate one thing from another.
In any case, I think it is a moot point as neither the 'Buyer Complaint Policy', or 'PayPal Buyer Protection Policy' covers intangible things such as gift vouchers. I still think it is worth the risk.
calculus
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Like this hasn't been asked quite enough times in this thread already.
It has nothing to do with me. He has been selling these on eBay without interception for a few weeks now. If it turns out there is some illegal activity going on, then I'll be proven wrong.
For me, if it has went this long on eBay with so many happy customers, I have no reason to question it.
Now either find another line of questioning or bog off.
xJulianx
macrumors 6502a
I think he was asking for your personal opinion on where/how the seller may have acquired all of these vouchers. I would also be interested to know what you think.
I haven't the slightest idea, and at the moment, I don't care. That is, until it is proven there is something illegal going on behind it.
Apologies if I am beginning to become hostile with other members, it's just getting tiresome with people continually posting how this is 100% a scam. As I've said before, I don't think it is - but I can't prove it. So please stop posting the same thing over and over again.
That last part isn't directed at calculus
calculus
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That's exactly right, I'm just curious about what the supply chain might be.
Edit: In my mind the reason that people are being quite challenging about this is that the possibility exists that some MR members could find themselves caught up in something very unpleasant.
Abstract
macrumors Penryn
Or maybe people are being defensive because they don't want to believe that they're buying something originally purchased with a stolen credit card, or some other illegal means. This is similar to justifying your purchase, except instead of telling people you believe you purchased the best product that your money could buy at that price point, people are talking about the legality of the product they purchase. They want to believe.
I'm sorry, but you're line of reasoning only makes sense in the legal business world. 😉
calculus said:
I'm sorry, but you're line of reasoning only makes sense in the legal business world. 😉
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