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Force closing apps

Knightcastle

Knightcastle

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Should you ever force close an app, other than when it freezes?

I leave mine running all day then have an odd habit of closing them before bed.

Do the most optimally kept iPhones actually have every single app “open” at all times? Where do we draw the line?
 
Knightcastle said:
Should you ever force close an app, other than when it freezes?

I leave mine running all day then have an odd habit of closing them before bed.

Do the most optimally kept iPhones actually have every single app “open” at all times? Where do we draw the line?
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Whatever works for you. There's really no need usually to do it, short of an app not working correctly, or perhaps to prevent an app from running in the background for some reason. Beyond that it's just personal preference and not much more than that.
 
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I close everything except messages when I'm done using it. I don't go into apps multiple times back to back to back to leave them open for hours using up battery while they are allowed to run in the background.
 
Knightcastle said:
Should you ever force close an app, other than when it freezes?

I leave mine running all day then have an odd habit of closing them before bed.

Do the most optimally kept iPhones actually have every single app “open” at all times? Where do we draw the line?
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If it is Facebook, force close.

If it has permissions set to acesss “always,” force close or change to “while using”

If it drains battery because it is poorly written and keeps accessing your mic (Facebook), force close.

If you like having just a few apps in your app switcher, rather than every app you’ve ever used, force close.
 
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mazdamiata210 said:
I close everything except messages when I'm done using it. I don't go into apps multiple times back to back to back to leave them open for hours using up battery while they are allowed to run in the background.
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They shouldn't be running in the background for hours. If they are, there's a major bug.
 
I close certain apps - like banking apps. I don't run Facebook and some of the other mentioned because I don't trust what they are doing at all and they have history of killing battery. I have also noticed that looking at battery there are some that list background activity and I tend to close those if I don't use them often. Rest I leave running
 
hlfway2anywhere said:
They shouldn't be running in the background for hours. If they are, there's a major bug.
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Fcebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter, YouTube, Reddit, and the list goes on. They never die in the background. To say they aren't using battery is foolish. It's easier to double tap and kill them off.
 
mazdamiata210 said:
Fcebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter, YouTube, Reddit, and the list goes on. They never die in the background. To say they aren't using battery is foolish. It's easier to double tap and kill them off.
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I use most of those quite a bit and for the most part most of them don't end up having much (or any) background usage. Might depend on the settings and permissions and what one does in those apps as far as what they they might or might not do in the background.

That's not to say much as far as closing them or not goes, just commenting on the experience with background usage.
 
mazdamiata210 said:
Fcebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter, YouTube, Reddit, and the list goes on. They never die in the background. To say they aren't using battery is foolish. It's easier to double tap and kill them off.
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Yup I always close fb and instagram. They always refresh when you open them back up anyway.
 
iOS automatically suspends apps when they're removed from the foreground; it literally pauses them from executing, and if other apps need the memory they were using, it then automatically quits them. Theoretically there's no need to terminate them yourself – either the system has already done it without your knowledge and you're merely going through redundant steps, or you're doing something the system would eventually do anyway before there's any real benefit to doing so. You might ultimately use more total processing power to restart the app after it was needlessly terminated.

iOS suspends apps in this way unless they request time to continue running for specific reasons that are supposed to align with users' intentions – like downloading content in the background – or in specific limited modes, like to continue playing audio. Even then, the system may not permit this given user settings or low resources. So if any app does continue to run for reasons beyond that spirit, they're presumably abusing the intended uses of continued background operation and you might want to consider just not using that app at all. (Facebook appears to have done this in the past by "playing audio" silently in order to continue running; this story is somewhat old news now.)
 
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mazdamiata210 said:
Fcebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter, YouTube, Reddit, and the list goes on. They never die in the background. To say they aren't using battery is foolish. It's easier to double tap and kill them off.
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C DM said:
I use most of those quite a bit and for the most part most of them don't end up having much (or any) background usage. Might depend on the settings and permissions and what one does in those apps as far as what they they might or might not do in the background.

That's not to say much as far as closing them or not goes, just commenting on the experience with background usage.
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EM2013 said:
Yup I always close fb and instagram. They always refresh when you open them back up anyway.
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Facebook is has gotten stuck on me a couple of times in the past. But otherwise, 7 years of background/multitasking apps and I've never micromanaged them in the switcher. My battery life is fine.
 
hlfway2anywhere said:
Facebook is has gotten stuck on me a couple of times in the past. But otherwise, 7 years of background/multitasking apps and I've never micromanaged them in the switcher. My battery life is fine.
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But if you never closed them before, how would you know it was fine? Could be using 10-20% more battery than closing them and you never tried it.
 
mazdamiata210 said:
If you never tried closing apps before, how would you know?

It's like saying this pizza is the best, without ever trying any other pizza. You don't know.
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You could see how much battery they are using via the battery stats. If they show up in something like 1% range then how much of a difference could it all make? If they show up with more usage and it's not simply from you using the apps a lot (as in they have background usage as well) then it can make a difference.
 
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dumastudetto said:
Force closing apps makes no difference. Everyone who has basic iOS knowledge knows it.
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https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/force-closing-apps.2090691/#post-25513734
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C DM said:
You could see how much battery they are using via the battery stats. If they show up in something like 1% range then how much of a difference could it all make? If they show up with more usage and it's not simply from you using the apps a lot (as in they have background usage as well) then it can make a difference.
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You don't understand. Not worth my time to try to explain it again. Doesn't matter what anyone says on here, you always say the opposite.
 
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hlfway2anywhere said:
Because you're wrong and C DM is right. We're not being contrarian just to be annoying.
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How am I wrong? Did anyone on this forum ever take 4th grade science? Do you know how the scientific method works?

You can't say THIS way is the only way because that's what I was told is the right way. If you didn't test closing apps vs not closing apps in a controlled and consistent way then you can't say who's right or wrong.

My point was that if you never tried closing apps, then you can't say it uses the same amount of battery as not closing apps.
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C DM said:
Yes, that's it exactly, just going down the path of an ad hominem argument is totally how it works and really strengthens your point.
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Go through your post history. You only chime in to say the opposite of whoever you're replying to.
 
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mazdamiata210 said:
My point was that if you never tried closing apps, then you can't say it uses the same amount of battery as not closing apps.
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And my point is that if you have an elementary understanding of how iOS works you would know that it does.
 
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