iPhone Force iPhone to send as MMS instead of SMS?

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  1. shenan1982 macrumors 68040

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    So now that more and more friends are getting Android phones, they're becoming increasingly annoyed with me because I send conversational messages and the iPhone is sending them as SMS instead of iMessage (obviously since they don't have iPhone) or MMS. MMS is the way it needs to go because it alleviates the 160 character limit the old-school SMS technology has. And since the world is predominantly Android now, we should have a way to designate a default for a contact.

    I can't blame them. The above would have come through like this if I would have text messaged them:

    Me (4:01PM): sending them as SMS instead of iMessage (obviously since they don't have iPhone) or MMS. MMS is the way it needs to go because it alleviates the 160 character

    Me (4:02PM): limit the old-school SMS technology has. And since the world is predominantly Android now, we should have a way to designate a default for a contact.

    Me (4:02PM): So now that more and more friends are getting Android phones, they're becoming increasingly annoyed with me because I send conversational messages and the iPhone is


    Obviously this is difficult to read... very difficult, especially if copying and pasting a long paragraph or something. Android to Android is fine (tested with HTC, Samsung, Nexus, etc), and even a Windows phone to Android is fine, so clearly the issue is the incompatibility with the iPhone to play nice with others. Back in the day when it was iOS or no OS, that was okay, but in 2014 iOS isn't the main player in the game, so there must be a solution I'm missing.

    If anyone knows of a way to set certain contacts to MMS-only, please advise. I am jailbroken, so even if it's a tweak, I can live with that (tho we shouldn't have to).
     
  2. sunking101 macrumors 603

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    I'm sure glad that iOS doesn't default to MMS, else I would be charged 35p each time I sent one. SMS are free here in the UK on most contracts.
    As to your question, I don't think that you can.
    Why not use Whatsapp?
     
  3. shenan1982 thread starter macrumors 68040

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    I didn't say default to it. I asked if I could designate those who I CHOSE to use MMS for.

    Whatsapp is silly. I don't want to have to rely on others having an application running and open to be able to communicate with them. Sending as an MMS would solve the problem.
     
  4. sunking101 macrumors 603

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    Whatsapp doesn't need to be running, or open.
    The recipient is alerted in the same way they are alerted of an SMS. It's also a free app, and most people have it. If they don't, then they can get it easily. If they're complaining and the solution is free, then what's the problem?
    Other than that, I have no idea.
     
  5. shenan1982 thread starter macrumors 68040

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    You're pushing something unrelated to what I asked. I'm aware of WhatsApp and many other similar apps, but that's not a viable solution.

    Maybe YOUR circle of friends have WhatsApp, but no, "most people have it" is absolutely false. In fact, I just scanned my contacts and out of 2600 contacts, 97 have it, so you're very wrong.
     
  6. sunking101 macrumors 603

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    Just trying to help. It's a solution but if you would rather not use it, then just buy an Android phone and MMS to your heart's content :)
     
  7. shenan1982 thread starter macrumors 68040

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    The iPhone is perfectly capable of sending MMS messages.... just not by choice (i.e. when sending a picture message, that's MMS). Don't need the attitude, you're propagating the "our way or the highway" mentality that's sandboxing iOS as it is. If a Windows Phone can send messages (via SMS) and they are received in proper order\dissected and re-joined properly to an Android Phone, as can a BlackBerry to an Android, clearly there's a problem with iOS that it's not playing nice. You can either blame everyone except Apple, or accept that Apple isn't perfect and that I have a valid point that long messages should be broken then rejoined properly, or at least broken up and delivered in proper order.

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    If you asked me what types of plants to grow in your garden that wouldn't use so much water, and I said why don't you tear out your garden and install a concrete parking lot, that would be equivalent to your response. It's not addressing the question I posed.... and the solution wasn't relevant.

    Let me just call my grandmother who has a non-smartphone, and tell her that she needs to go buy a smart phone, and then install and learn how to use WhatsApp because she choses to have a basic phone only capable of SMS\MMS, and my messages to her are broken up because my iPhone doesn't give me the flexibility to send messages that don't get shuffled up.
     
  8. richwoodrocket macrumors 68020

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    IF you do a group message, it defaults to MMS. I guess you could just make a groupmessage and it would be a mms.
     
  9. shenan1982 thread starter macrumors 68040

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    That's an interesting workaround, hehe
     
  10. richwoodrocket, Apr 18, 2014
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    richwoodrocket macrumors 68020

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    haha i just throw someome in a groupchat with the other person, and there i have mms. gets a lot of people mad though.
     
  11. shenan1982 thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Highly ineffective to the goal. LOL
     
  12. richwoodrocket macrumors 68020

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    Or you could just put a random number in there and when they respond, block them.
     
  13. chrf097 macrumors 68040

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    Set up a dummy number from a texting app or a Google Voice #.
     
  14. Paddle1 macrumors 68030

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    What happens when you go to Settings > Messages and turn off Send as SMS? (When iMessage is not available) it sounds exactly like what you want.
     
  15. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    That won't get the messages to be sent as MMS just as SMS as they already being sent based on what the OP mentioned. In fact for non iOS recipients that setting won't really do much as it would already just send things as SMS given that iMessage won't apply to them.
     
  16. Paddle1 macrumors 68030

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    How does turning off SMS cause SMS messages to be sent?
     
  17. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Turning off SMS in iMessage settings is not going to do anything for non-iMessage conversations. Since the conversation in question are with Android users (or basically non-iOS users) none of the iMessage settings would even come into play as these wouldn't be iMessage conversations. Messages would simply be sent as SMS as iMesaage doesn't apply/exist in these situations.

    Even for iMessages turning that setting off simply means that after an iMessage is sent and isn't delivered for a bit the system won't automatically resend it as SMS. It doesn't do anything as far as somehow getting messages sent as MMS.
     
  18. richwoodrocket macrumors 68020

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    And just to clarify, if anyone is wondering, turning on mms dosent do what the OP is describing.
     

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  19. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Yeah, I think all that setting really does is allow for MMS (as in sending messages with media attachments) but not really any more finer control over it.
     
  20. richwoodrocket macrumors 68020

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    Yep. I know that, just saying it in case anyone else is wondering.
     
  21. Paddle1 macrumors 68030

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    There is no indication that the top of the Messages section of Settings is for iMessage only.
     
  22. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    You can read what the setting is for right under it where there's information about the setting and what it relates to (as in when iMesagaes can't be delivered). The setting also disappears when iMessage is disabled.
     
  23. Dented macrumors 6502a

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    I think I can help, as a friend discovered this by accident and ended up racking a big MMS bill before he realised..

    Under settings -> Messages, turn on "show subject field".

    If you then use that subject field when sending a message to a non-iPhone, it will send as mms regardless of content - because SMS doesn't support the subject line. Obviously if you leave it blank, it'll just go SMS as normal.

    Of course the real answer is just to get better friends and carry on using iMessage. And for the record I've never heard of the iPhone SMS issue you describe - don't forget your carrier has a part to play in that and it might be worth checking with them before you place it all at the iPhone's door.
     
  24. richwoodrocket macrumors 68020

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    Right on. I forgot about that.
     
  25. shenan1982 thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Good idea! I'll give it a try
     

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