Foreign Employee Lost Macbook Pro + iPad 3

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  1. loon3y macrumors 65816

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    Im just wondering if she might of sold it rather then actually losing it.


    Initially i did think she just lost it, but of course in the back of my mind theres the thought of "what if she sold it"


    Our employee is from india (more nepali then indian but i guess it doesn't really matter) she worked at our company years ago when we were doing well and she was handling around $20,000 per month at the india office.

    She eventually left, and now since we offered her an opportunity to work in the US (NYC) she rejoined our company.

    On a visa she worked over here for a couple months and went back to india and applied for a work visa.


    The company is based in LA with staff in NYC, so i come to NYC with my old macbook (the iPad3 she had since she first came). Its an older macbook 2010 13" so it doesn't have THAT much value but its still $700 dollars, which is probably less then what she gets paid in India. But in the US we pay here US wages (either minimum or little bit over)


    After i bought a solid state drive and replaced the CD drive with it to make it faster and usable for another 3-4 years. i set up the OS X on there, installed parallel, set up Xcode (not a developer but she just needs to be able to install apps on devices in case of emergency), Skype, app cleaner, windows 8.1, outlook.

    Everything and she loses both the next day.


    Fishy thing is, she lost the iPad but i know she kept it in her purse all the time. so it was a bit fishy to lose both, because i knew she was carrying macbook separately at times. (she was carrying everything in her purse 2 Labtops she also was carrying her personal she was using for work lenovo laptop, i was going to tell her to just use a backpack because its just not reasonable but i didnt want to impose)

    she lost it on a NJ transit bus. but its kind of hard to forget about a damn macbook in a case i mean where would she put it? either on the ground or i guess the top.

    anyways, she was crying when she came in the day she told us, so i told her not to worry about it.


    but another thing is we're waiting for her work visa to get approved she was supposed to know the weekend before.

    but she said the lawyer will know at the end of the month when the deadline/raffle was the weekend before she lost the macbook.


    so i mean of course the chance of her visa getting denied and making probably double her salary before she has to go came through my mind.


    and then yesterday she asked me how much the Solid state drive i put in was.

    I told her not to worry about it (of course i said it many times before) and then she asked me how much GB of space was in there.

    which was fishy, but then I'm pretty sure she can find out for her self if she had it.


    i don't know any suggestions?
     
  2. Scepticalscribe, May 19, 2015
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    Well, firstly, I am more than a little curious about the thread title. The thread title and the post content seem to suggest two different things, (lost versus robbed), while your (hinted question) implies a third possibility (stolen and maybe sold on).

    Then, I am rather curious about the fact that you actually suspect this employee (of possible theft), an employee, whom, you yourself, have already admitted has worked (presumably successfully) with your company for some time, and had been rated sufficiently highly to merit an invitation to work in the US.

    So, secondly, I would ask whether you have ever been robbed? (I have - just once - and it is a feeling of incredible violation; moreover, if you have just arrived in a foreign country, you can feel extraordinarily defenceless, and possibly even vulnerable).

    And, - thirdly, in the context of a forum inhabited by a few tech obsessed fashionistas who think a computer more than six months old is borderline obsolete - I feel compelled to pose the question - in other words, to ask you - whether you yourself would consider robbing a MacBook from 2010? (I wouldn't; two years ago, I gave my 2010 MBA to one of my two brothers as a birthday present.)

    Seriously: I don't care how souped up a computer from 2010 is. Do you really think this is worth $700? Where on earth do you get the figure of $700 from?

    And so, finally, I do wonder whether this thread would raise this matter - or, phrase this matter - in quite this way if the person in question was a white male?
     
  3. mobilehaathi macrumors G3

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    You haven't even provided circumstantial evidence. She kept it in her purse all the time? Really? All the time? You know this how exactly?

    And that's the entirety of your "evidence."

    I think you suspect her because she is foreign and from a country with cheap labor.
     
  4. loon3y thread starter macrumors 65816

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    First, you need to understand this. It has nothing to do with the color of the skin, its the fact that she's from a 3rd world country and whatever you sell those obsolete products for whether its $700 or $1000 is a lot of money to them. They might not be bad people, but i don't know her financial situation, if it great i highly doubt she would come to the US just for her love and curiosity for the country, because its going to be hard adjusting.


    Her visa might of gotten rejected and might just want an extra 2-4 months salary before leaving the US. Its not about character but what if she really needs it? Her salary here is nearly triple what she gets back in India, and if her visa is rejected, whatever plans she made or money she is accustomed to is gone.







    If our company could afford it, we wouldn't of brought here. The fact we brought her here is because her accent isn't as bad and she generally gets it from the other Indians we have worked with. Highly rated for india doesn't necessarily equate to being highly rated here. (again, we don't have the financial power like google, microsoft, etc etc to get the top rated candidates, You hire an employee that has a computer science in iOS development and they have no idea what object oriented programming is)


    Im sure that answers your question about going to different countries. No one is robbing someone on a NJ transit thats packed with people in rush hour, You got to be a drug addict or basically insane because thats just a ride straight to the station. It wasn't stolen because she LEFT it on the bus.



    If you the money to spend 2-3 grand on new computers every 6 months and the TIME to waste setting it up (as for us we have to set up windows, parallels, Xcode, SQL Server, IIS, PowerBuilder, Visual studios) on your macbook then kudos man. I wish i can be as rich and have much as time as you.





    As for your question of being robbed, Yes i have, growing up in LA, you come across plenty of gangbangers that'll just beat you down and take your stuff. The best scenarios would be when they just pull out a gun and you don't get your face bashed in by a group of teenagers.


    As for visiting foreign places, I've been extorted for bribes more then i can count.


    But thanks for the second paragraph that mildly stayed on topic. Where as you just essentially attacked me like you were the employee that lost the product and i accused you.


    I don't know why you came at me so aggressive, seems to me you think I'm some sort of racist? considering you mentioned the whole "white" aspect.



    Im just asking what YOU guys might think. Obviously i got your answer. If her visa wasn't in question i wouldn't think twice because she'd make enough money where she doesn't need to sell that macbook or iPad. Since i took the same bus on monday because i slept over a friends, she just brought it up the whole thing and asked how many gigs were in the hard drive. Its not like she's gonna replace it she has a lenovo without a space to put a 2nd hard drive in.




    no reason to be so salty
     
  5. mobilehaathi macrumors G3

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    All you've done is construct a crappy motive from what you assume about her behavior and reasoning.
     
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    My point exactly.

    Seriously: If a guy (with the agreeable and fetching pallor of a Caucasian male who hailed from sun deprived parts of the world) - say, from Canada, or the UK, - was seconded, or invited, to spend time working with your company, and after travelling there, was relieved of a five year old computer - which was robbed, because he, as a stranger in your country got distracted, or disorientated, would your first thought be that he faked this tale of theft in order to sell this antique?

    I have worked in a number of countries central Asia for years at a time. Leaving aside matters of political instability, outrageous corruption, and grinding poverty, I have found my personal staff - invariably - to have been exceptionally dedicated, extremely hard-working, law-abiding and extraordinarily polite.

    The women, especially, are socialised into being polite, self-effacing, orderly and exceptionally hard-working. My experience of Asians - especially south-central Asians - is an almost abnormal desire for stability and respect for the rule of law.

    Suggestions: How about you consider taking her at her word…….
     
  7. loon3y thread starter macrumors 65816

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    To the bold: obviously if you haven't read my post, but not because she foreign.


    if she didnt carry it in her purse, that means she'd have to physically carry the iPad and the Macbook with her hands. so either 1 hand with a macbook and iPad or use both hands carrying one in the right hand and one in the left.

    which is why i was going to tell her to use a backpack, roller bag or whatever but i didnt want to impose. To 1. not lose stuff, and 2. easier for her to commute and carry things.


    Her purse can easily fit the iPad, and she put the macbook in her purse along with her lenovo laptop.



    I don't know why you guys are going up and about and getting overly defensive.

    I didnt accuse her nor did i even give the notion.

    Im asking if you guys think anything stands out. or seems fishy.
     
  8. Scepticalscribe, May 19, 2015
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    You asked for thoughts and suggestions.

    My thoughts and suggestions are that I doubt you would have questioned her motives if she was white and from the First World, and the fact that you did does raise questions in my mind.

    And, I'll repeat. I have worked in many third world and second world countries, and I have (almost) always found my personal staff to be exemplary - so exemplary, that I have written references for a good number of them.

    I will also repeat: I don't know where you are getting your mad stats of $700-$1,000. Last year (2014), I sold on a MBA (quite high spec'ed - 8 GB RAM 256 SSD - because I don't buy basic models) which dated from 2012 to a colleague, so I have some slight idea of the prices such things might command. Now, I am not an entrepreneur, but there is no way in hell that a 2010 computer is worth the price you suggest.

    I will repeat: In my experience Asians who travel abroad - especially the women - are law-abiding and hard working. The fact that your first thought is coloured with dark suspicion says more about you than them.

    Salty? Examine the dim, dark suspicious recesses of your own mind.
     
  9. loon3y thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I did take her word, I'm asking the forum if theres anything fishy about it.


    Why are you getting so defensive?

    Im Asian lol, and your whole conception is quite ignorant. Oh they're asian they must be law abiding white america stereotypical view asians. People steal, people are murders, liars, in every country. To give that statement to someone thats asian themselves is just extremely hilarious.



    Our company has been in India for over 12 years, people steal from the companies the US, people steal from the companies in India. We've had plenty of things of missing out of the years. iOS/Smartphones devices included to the point where someone tried to steal the bed i sleep in (i sleep at the office). If nothing was ever missing for YOUR office, then GREAT! Im sure that applies to the THOUSANDS of other offices across the world.



    How for someone that worked in 3rd world countries, don't know the VAST difference between salaries? You do know majority of them do NOT have a smartphone right? let a lone a PERSONAL COMPUTER they can take home. Hard to believe you worked in 3rd world countries when you don't even realize that fact.

    So yes, theres a complete difference from a UK/Canadian individual who loses a macbook and an iPad that isn't half their monthly salary

    compared to someone that makes about $500 a month that can't afford their own smartphone/tablet/computer. Not to mention Apple product's prices are higher then it is in the US.

    But please continue, What was your whole point of even asking me if i got robbed?
     
  10. Scepticalscribe, May 19, 2015
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    I think she got robbed. Or someone with nimble fingers helped themselves to the bag.

    Asian women are small of stature and slight in build; besides, you want one hand free (as I have learned to my cost) when using public transport in strange and unknown places.

    Nobody is getting overly defensive. I am simply saying that I doubt this explanation would have occurred to you to post here were the person confessing to mislaying/misplacing/losing laptops a white guy.

    Seriously: You ask yourself if a nice, white, pallid, Canadian (male) stumbled into your office sobbing that the five year old (souped-up) laptop you had given him was mislaid/robbed/pilfered/purloined/feloniously removed, would your first thought have been - aha, Sherlock, this is not foul theft, or an act of cruel robbery, but a cunning plan to fake the appearance of same so that I can sell the proceeds from the sale of a five year old computer?

    Get real.
     
  11. mobilehaathi macrumors G3

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    Believe it or not you have publicly accused her. Right here. Now the fact that you and she are virtually anonymous means you haven't escalated it very much, but you're thinking about it.

    You've got no evidence that she stole it (note this does not necessarily mean she didn't steal it), and your accusation here is weighted down with (what seems to me to be) a bit of prejudice.
     
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    Ah, surprise, surprise, I do know the vast difference between salaries. (Why capital letters? I can read, you know. There is no need to shout……but, proper punctuation would be nice. I wear glasses, and reading screaming capitals, on the one hand, and lower case letters where capitals might have been more appropriate - you know, at the start of a sentence - greatly eases the physical experience of reading a post….)

    I also know - both as a teacher and as someone who has worked - for years - in third world countries that how you see people and how you treat them colours perceptions and responses.

    And, I asked whether you got robbed because - until it happened to me (in the first world), I had assumed myself to be street wise and inviolable. However, as a woman, - especially as a slightly built woman who has been brought up to be deferential and self-effacing as many Indian and Nepalese women are - in an unfamiliar environment, with your hands full (both of my hands were full when I was robbed), you may present an inviting, or an opportunistic target.
     
  13. loon3y thread starter macrumors 65816

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    First of all you seriously have some race issues. Im ASIAN american, that grew up in a pretty diverse city called Los Angeles.

    So please tell me more about asians that i guess i don't know about considering I'm asian myself.






    The fact that i traveled to 3rd World countries and 2nd world (china) i know how money, materialism, is important and the fact that all these "obsolete" devices are even a luxury to them. (maybe not so much china, but ex chinese staff have tooken MacBooks and iPads before, one pervious just ran away with one of our macbook airs from our shanghai office)


    YOUR employees are great, YOUR experiences are GREAT, I'm sure that implies to EVERYONE else. :rolleyes:



    i Just explained why, if canada was a 3rd world country and they were working at around $500 per month. Then yes id have to question it. If you can't get that in your head then i don't know what to say.



    the first thought wasn't that she stole, i already stated this, it seems like you're on some holy war on what? Why are you so defensive? I didnt even confront her about it, and even if she did i probably wont. But she wouldn't be working in this company again.





    oh and here, i don't do petty things like this, but since you insist. Oh and mine has a 8GB upgrade aand 250+ SSD drive.





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    I'm not defensive.

    Rather, I merely thought that your initial post was excessively detailed and troubled for something that is actually very minor. And the way in which you phrased your question invited my response.

    My sense is that you want confirmation that this is 'fishy' - in your words.

    For what it is worth, my opinion is that it is not. I think the young woman either got robbed, or got flustered and a nimble fingered individual took advantage of her confusion.

    And more screaming capitals from you………seriously, no need to shout. I can read, and I can hear.

    Yes. My employees were, for the most part, excellent, and I happily told them so, and mentored them, and advised them and, supported them, and dined with them occasionally, in some cases, got to know them quite well.

    However, my experience is also that you get what you expect: If you praise and support your employees, and encourage them, they will - in my experience - rise to your expectations. If you seek skivers and thieves, well, who knows? This is what you may find in the haystack…..
     
  15. loon3y thread starter macrumors 65816

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    This explains a lot thanks for enlightening me. You're an Indian/Nepalese woman thats obviously defending this individual and attacking me rather then having an actual unbiased view on things.



    You come here attacking me because you think I'm accusing her because she's a female (your emphasize on males was clear enough) and that she's foreign?

    i already told you, and I was born in 89 in LA, racism was a bit there but hardly, so it'll be pretty funny to be a Racist Asian against Asians in one of the most diverse cities in the world. Considering i was the one getting called racial terms in elementary school.


    Great job on thinking that I was some pretentious White Male form the US.





    Oh, and excuse me for not presenting the absolute correct grammar on an internet forum. Those capitalizations is to get your attention since you seem to skip certain parts of my posts or just choose to ignore them.




    how many times do i have to emphasize that its because she's from a 3rd world country?


    the fact that we can spend what the make in month in 2 weekends without much of a dent? that the fact that if she takes that computer AND iPad back to india she has something that most in that country don't have.


    of course those things are to consider. If i have to explain to you why a Billionaire has more incentive to steal then someone in poverty then just wow.



    I've asked in multiple forums, you're the only one that come out attacking me.


    If any Computer, or iPad is lost it shouldn't be taken lightly.

    i don't know how much money you make but i have friends and family that would love a 2010 Macbook.

    I assume you're part of the Indian/Nepali High class. I can assume right? or can only you?
     
  16. mobilehaathi macrumors G3

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    You need to work on your reading comprehension.
     
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    Loon3y,

    Some others here are certainly questioning your motive. It really is a pain when a person posts something in a forum and cannot get a simple answer.

    However reading through most of the thread, I am betting that a watchful person with sticky fingers perhaps took advantage of a her in that she is new here and quite possibly confused about her surroundings and got distracted.

    By telling you that she lost them seems like she is trying to accept responsibility for what happened instead of blaming others.

    I would find that very commendable of an associate in her position.

    I hope my response is a bit helpful,

    Pete.
     
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    This is hilarious.

    Actually, I am not from the 'Indian/Nepalese high class'.

    Believe it or not, I am one of life's apple eaters from Europe. Western Europe. A lapsed radical, half-tamed by excessive education. An apple eater, apprentice alcoholic and former academic, that's me.

    However, I am female, and I have worked with people from central/south-east Asia - both male and female for several years in a number of different countries.

    I referred to the fact that she was female, partly 1) because I am female, and 2) I know the physical build, and more importantly, the socialisation and cultural conditioning that Asians from central Asia, especially the women, are subject to.

    And seriously, Sherlock, you might more profitably seek your arthritic computer elsewhere…….that's all I am suggesting….

    You asked for suggestions. My take is that - all my experience to date informs my conclusion that I very doubt that she stole the computer with a view to selling it on…...

     
  19. loon3y thread starter macrumors 65816

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    LOL, so you couldn't just say, "I doubt she did it" and say some points why?


    Rather then "what would think if she was a white male!", "I know Asian culture more than you even though you're asian! I worked there plenty of times!", "She got robbed! Even though you explained to me she's on a New Jersey Transit bus that is packed with people and its a felony to pretty much commit any crime on there"

    You do know that being robbed means forcefully getting your belongings.Nobody stole anything from her, nobody put a gun or knife to her throat and robbed her.



    LOL, at thinking its all about the "computer". Considering her Visa situation and the value of those items (Yes, average indians do not even have smart phones or personal computers) Yeah the thought came into mind.


    All you had to say was, "Hey from my experience with South Asian culture, i don't believe so and from what i think she probably just lost it"

    Rather then "Hey What if she was a WHITE MALE HUH?", "Have you gotten robbed?", "THAT MACBOOK ISNT $700 DOLLARS!"


    1. Im Asian, so yeah its pretty hard for me to be racist, against asians generally. If she was Indian-American grown up here, would i think twice? No. The fact that those items have value (as in 4 months of her local indian salary) and the issue of her present Visa problem.


    2. So what, your a woman you got robbed. Im A man i got robbed, beat up, drawn at gun point. Doesn't make me better then anyone else. She didnt get robbed nor was it stolen from her. She didnt get robbed nor is it likely she ever will get robbed on a full NJ transit bus in rush hour going to New York Port Authority. Well unless you want a trip straight to the station and get charged with a felony.



    3. Again, the company is going through small rough patch, the fact is theres people here that can't afford a macbook or an iPad. The fact the company gave her a macbook and an iPad which took time to setup. Time i personally spent out of my free time to buy her that extra Solid State Drive and setup everything up for her. It




    I would have to be a fool not to even think of the possibility that she would do that, doesn't mean she's a bad person, good people steal too. Money problems make people do bad things.

    Im asking if you THINK she did, because obviously she shouldn't be working for our company if she did.


    You come here attacking me with some feminist agenda and trying to rile me up and go off topic on the thread. Great job.


    What the hell does the knowing south asian culture and socialization have to do with selling couple of apple products before you go back to india because your visa failed?


    No ones intimidating her out of belongings, in broad daylight in New York on a fully packed public transit. If thats the what your intention was of bring up being a female or what ever in south asian culture.

    Conditioning? You do know in Chennai (south India) women are almost matriarchs right?

    Its pretty damn funny how you just group everyone together when India it self pretty damn diverse from state to state. North indians can't even speak or understand Tamil.


    You fail to even mention that India it self is such diverse country but yet you just bunch not only all of India, but Nepal into one big thing as well?


    So are all South east asians the same as well? Seems like you just bunch all of us Asians together.


    So i can assume Western Europeans are all polite, well mannered, rich and clean right?

    You come off very tunnel minded and very ill informed.





    At the end of the day, she was negligent and left those belongings on the bus, Those belongings that has sensitive Data about our customers.

    Nobody stole anything from her, she got off the bus and left those belongings there. People make mistakes,

    Im just asking what others might think and if theres might be something fishy about it.


    And again, i had no idea someone like you was going to come into this thread and straight attack me and go off topic, saying this and that.

    Seriously, Do i have to tell you that my Friend mentioned that she might of taken it because of her visa situation and being from a 3rd world country, which is why the notion came to mind? To let you know the first notion to my head wasn't that she stole it? Without you criticizing me and attacking me?




    I mean is this really how you conduct yourself in real life? Making assumptions and then being absolutely wrong.

    I love how you didnt respond to me not being white, that macbook thats the same year with half the ram and half the storage space with a solid state drive being $700.


    Don't you think i have to think about it before giving her another computer? Take all things into consideration?

    Or you think i should just give replacement MacBooks for everyone thats loses one without question.

    and did you not read that "i don't" think she did it, in the initial post?

    Some people, some people



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    Thank you, This was pretty much all i was asking for.
     
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    Well, in your original post, and subsequent ones, I think that it is rather telling that you doubted her word and conjured up negative scenarios rather than ones which empathised with the woman.

    Do you know for a fact that her visa was not issued, or is this merely speculating?

    Furthermore, the actual phrasing of your original post invited a response which was supposed to support your own suspicions. In my response, I queried that.

    Moreover, I also think it is telling that you respond to questions about the tone and content of your posts in an aggressive and defensive tone yourself. Accept that because she is from a Third World country your own initial thoughts were suspicious, rather than sympathetic.

    The reason I raised the issue of her being an Asian woman in an alien environment is that I think she may have become overwhelmed and somewhat stressed, and that this is what may have led to her leaving the computer behind, in a situation where someone else with nimble fingers may have helped themselves to it.

    For my part, I have left things behind on a bus - though, granted, never anything such as a computer, usually umbrellas, and once my spare pair of glasses (which fortunately, I managed to retrieve a day later after phoning the bus company).

    In any case, my response is that I doubt that she stole it, and I think you are swift to leap to conclusions without evidence but which reinforce your own suspicions, in prose that strikes an aggressive tone and does not invite a convivial response. With respect, that is not 'riling' you up, that is calling you out.

    I gave you my reasons, and one of them is that I do know people and have worked with people from central and south Asia.

    So, to finally answer this, no, I don't 'think' that she did. Or, to phrase it differently, I have some experience with south and central Asian culture and I think she got overwhelmed, and distracted and left it behind.
     
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    No I don't think she sold it honest people are honest no matter their circumstances. If she wanted to pilfer money it would have been much easier to do it while working in India. I'd just let it go stuff happens.
     
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    certainly the most likely thing that happened
     
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    If you don't trust this person's word that she lost the computer, but rather she sold it, why are you still going to hire her to handle any more business? That confuses me.

    Whatever the case, I would report the computer stolen, and perhaps with a police report, take it to an Apple Store and see if they can make a note of it in the system should anyone take it into service.

    As for H1 visas, isn't the lottery in May? So you should know by now if it's been approved or not.
     
  24. loon3y thread starter macrumors 65816

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    LOL, first of all. The biggest problem I had with you is this:

    What does being a "man" have to with anything, gender has nothing to do with anything i've said. Its just the the person and the situation she's in. the fact the she is not a he has nothing do with it anything i've stated.


    You literally came on here with some type of feminist agenda. Please you're the type that says something like "Oh she's a woman, she's more vulnerable to theft, robbery, violence, etc etc" and then goes "Women should serve in combat roles!"

    You literally shame and discredit and real independent women with your foolish acts and quick accusations. Deriving from the whole topic just to get your insults and sexist accusations in.



    Why the hell do you bring up gender? And when did i come to SWIFT conclusions ? Im asking YOU guys if theres anything fishy, when i STATED before that i didnt think she stole it.

    Its pretty ironic for you to say I came to swift conclusions, when you swiftly thought i was some sexist chauvinist white male.



    Why do you respond? I do because i think you're just hilarious and full of yourself.


    Considering you we're labeling me a racist against asians (which i am asian) and that you were ironically stereotyping a whole race thats more then 1/6th of the world's population.

    You don't consider that riling up? You're insulting me calling me white when I'm Asian, calling me sexist and then ironically stereotyping a whole race.

    Im honestly offended as an Asian myself that you stereotyped us as a whole.

    So with your logic, if you had a bad experience over there then all asians and asian women are horrible, scam artist, rude, and classless.


    :rolleyes:

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    Only reason why i questioned it. I don't think so but I'm definitely not leaving out the fact that she might be making a quick buck before she leaves.

    She said the lawyer won't find out till June

    Or just keeping it, most don't have PCs at their home there let alone smart phones.

    don't even talk about Macs no one has one there outside of their workplace which the company provides for.


    I don't think she did it. But definitely i need to see some outside observations before we basically replace everything she lost EXT. Hard drive, macbook, iPad, mini routers, assortment of cables.

    And everything she lost is just extremely dangerous if it falls into the wrong hands. Probably unlikely, but dangerous because of the sensitive data on there. Anyone thats moderately computer savvy will have IP and login for our customer's servers.


    But thanks for the people that came in here and didnt attack with their own personal agenda.
     

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