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A FitBit doesn't need to learn from another device. The problem with the watch is you need an expensive phone just so your expensive watch can accomplish its basic features. If you don't have an iPhone, your Watch is gimped from the start.

Fortunately the next Watch is going to be more independent...?

Yes, as the first iPod needed an expensive Mac just to accomplish its most basic features. The Watch, as it stands, is an iPhone accessory.

Expect a more independent and Android-compatible Watch in the future.
 
Take product advice from John Sculley? I don't think so.

You had your chance John, go back in your hole.
 
I'd say the AW has much more utility then many other smart watches out there now.
 
Yes, as the first iPod needed an expensive Mac just to accomplish its most basic features. The Watch, as it stands, is an iPhone accessory.

Expect a more independent and Android-compatible Watch in the future.
This is 2016. Apple is hardly in a position where they're in desperate need to promote their iPhones.
 
Clearly, he never used one.

You only need your iPhone when working out the first time, so it can record GPS data and understand your pace, then you can leave it at home.

If a Fitbit has "utility", then the Apple Watch has much more, even in the current 1.0 form.
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Nope.

It's super useful when your hands are busy. And the other day I replied to a phone call under the shower.
Yes it is super useful I have one and I'm using a lot for Telegram and phonecalls. The problem is speed, it is too slow. The interface is awesome, watch configuration is endless, app often but not always are useful, just the loading time takes too much.
 
the day it replaces the cellphone, comes with a cell ant & gps built in, runs a full voip service (with #) like skype, maps, and the rest of the std apps, can be navigated with swipes and taps no more than a few deep, able to be operated entirely by voice via bluetooth headphones, come with large flash storage options, & the ability to plug directly into a display, or a workstation & work with it as a running VM, I'll happily pay a thousand dollars to strap one to my wrist.

The form factor of a watch is more secure and less bulky than a loose slab of a phone. Squeezing it all in to the small enclosure & display of a cellphone was impressive last decade, & squeezing it into a watch will be the impressive feat of the coming decades.

The Apple Watch has a long way to go.
 
Why does the media still treat this guy as though what he has to say is relevant? Who cares what he thinks about Watch? Plus same thing was said about the first iPhone with no 3rd party apps, no cut/copy/paste etc.
 
The writer should note that Mr. Sculley was also a co-founder of Misfit, a fitness tracking wearable, so his opinion is somewhat biased, perhaps.
 
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Fitbit outsells Apple Watch by a huge margin. So which has the broad appeal?

The simplicity and elegance of a Fitbit combined with Apple's design, quality, technology, and integration would be a really great product!

When did Apple release sales figure. The estimates have been all over the place. Some claim Apple sold roughly half of what the long time band industry leader Fitbit who sell a cheaper less profitable product sold. After being on the market for only 9 months. That sounds like a success to me. And the took 71% of the smart watch market too.
 
I think a lot of Apple Watch owners keep telling themselves this, but in reality - once the novelty has worn off - they usually reach for the phone. It's just easier and faster for most interactions.

true. in the beginning i was like "why do i need my phone?" now i come to realize that i need it for anything that requires any attention whatsoever anyway.

however it did help me reaching for my iPhone less cuz ill get a buzz on my wrist if something actually happened instead of wondering and looking at my phone all the time
 
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The utility of the Apple Watch is all in the built in apps, and they're fast. The Apple Watch is fast in the things people use, and slow in the things people don't use (apps).
Then Apple should not introduce App Store and third party apps in this first generation watch. Just like what Steve jobs did for first generation iPhone.
 
That would really limit the market to those who want health features (who are already well catered for with dedicated devices). Instead, they need to ensure it has a very broad appeal.

Most of the issues can be solved as the hardware improves. Remember the early iPhones, immediately requiring iTunes on a computer before you could even set them up.

Agreed. To be like Fitbit would be a disaster. Apple Watch's potential is in the capability to do so much more. The kinks can all be worked out. As a v1 decide, it's not that bad.
 
"I don't think an Apple lover has to have every product, but the ones I have and use I love," continued Sculley, expressing a particular fondness for the iPad Pro. "I think it's a spectacular experience to read the newspaper on it every day and even read books, I much prefer it to a Kindle."
Thats the funniest thing I've ever heard about the iPad Pro, its preferable to a Kindle, no wonder I returned mine.
 
I think the Apple Watch has (or tries to have) too much utility.

Smartwatches that try to replicate the functionality of phones will always be compromised and overly complicated.

Instead, it should try to be more like, say, a Fitbit. Lots of health sensors, but keep everything else really simple. Pair it down to only the most essential functionality and keep everything else on the phone.

Make it beautiful and really light-weight. Give it a battery that lasts weeks so that you barely even need to think about it being there.

I really don't care about the fitness aspects too much. Tracking distance walked and general activity is fine for me. I don't jog, and if I did, I wouldn't need want to or need to have a phone, or phone capabilities with me.
The improvements I would like would be THINNER, and FASTER.

The main thing I bought the watch for, was actually to be used as a watch!
 
He's only repeating what just about every reputable tech reviewer has said--the Apple watch is nearly useless at this point for most people. Yes, there are a few enthusiasts here that claim they can't live without out but they are a niche market and the use cases they state are dubious at best.

I'd say Apple has one more chance to make a case for the Apple Watch with the next hardware update to make it a compelling device. Simply partnering with fashion brands to release fancy new watch bands every few months isn't enough.

Aside from that, Apple either needs a new product category or has to make a truly amazing improvement to an existing one. I don't see any sign of that happening though I hope I'm wrong.
 
Agreed. To be like Fitbit would be a disaster. Apple Watch's potential is in the capability to do so much more. The kinks can all be worked out. As a v1 decide, it's not that bad.

But that's the problem. It is a glorified FitBit, mostly for activity tracking and notifications, except with ****** battery life and a complex UI.
 
As an Apple Watch user, the product is simply not there yet

Shockingly slow, making all apps useless. If the information isn't on the watch screen to see instantly it's too slow

Shocking slow. If it wasn't shockingly slow alone it would be more useful. Waiting 5 seconds to launch tune in radio makes it pointless.
 
A FitBit doesn't need to learn from another device. The problem with the watch is you need an expensive phone just so your expensive watch can accomplish its basic features. If you don't have an iPhone, your Watch is gimped from the start.

Fortunately the next Watch is going to be more independent...?
Who the hell doesn't have an iPhone (or other smartphone to use with another smartwatch) ?
 
Personally I'd love to see more battery life from any smartwatch before I consider adding yet another device to my daily routine.
 
John Sculley "doesn't have enough utility."

Seriously, why in the world do people still interview this guy? Based on his remarks, he doesn't even understand how the Apple Watch works. They'd be better off interviewing me as I actually own one and don't look like death warmed over.
 
I think a lot of Apple Watch owners keep telling themselves this, but in reality - once the novelty has worn off - they usually reach for the phone. It's just easier and faster for most interactions.

I tend not to reach for the phone unless my watch tells me it is ringing or that I have received a message. If the phone call is from someone I know, I will reach for the phone. If the message is too big to read on the watch or needs a reply, I will reach for the phone.
 
While my AW is still my daily driver I 100% agree with what Scully is saying. Given that he was responsible for prematurely launching the not-ready-for-primetime Newton he clearly is drawing from that bad experience which ultimately got him canned. The Newton was a terrific and exciting concept, but still a bit untidy at launch as a product, and never caught up once the design team left and founded Palm. TC should take note before history repeats itself.


Hmm...isn't he the one that led apple one step from bankruptcy due to bad product choices ?

No. Spindler and Amelio had more to do with that; promoting consumer confusion with a plethora of models, all of which were only a hairs difference of each other, the nearly ruining of the Powerbook line with models that literally caught on fire or were slower than a garden snail; the licensing out of Mac OS and then producing Macs that couldn't compete with the 3rd party models yet cost hundreds more; the inability to make good on the "Copeland" project, which was to be the next gen Mac OS -- it was this that ultimately nearly sank Apple, and why they had to reach out to Jobs and his NeXTSTEP OS.
 
Sculley got it almost right - for once. What he forgot to mention is for a "fashion accessory" it's glaringly ugly too.
 
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