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This is nothing like Pandora though. Pandora is basically web radio, whereas these streaming services are basically, pick anything you want, with no restrictions. Most streaming services also include a type of radio feature, but it's not really at the level of Pandora.

I did'nt say it's the same like Pandora. I just like music suggestions based on what I like to hear.
 
Beats is Unusable

I tried signing up for Beats awhile ago and it's one of the ugliest, most confusing interfaces ever. I'm still shocked Apple bought it. I'm hoping they get rid of the entire UI and start from scratch.
 
All I have to say is that this Beats thing better be GOOD and UNIQUE rather than some also-ran streaming music service.

Good and Unique? I'll settle for adequate and average so long as they beat Spotify on price. Somehow, $9/mo seems a LOT more palatable than $10/mo.

Of course, I do want the interface and service to be really great, but I'm not sure its uniqueness is terribly important in this space. Differentiation can come over time; it's more important that new competitors just get in the game.
 
I did'nt say it's the same like Pandora. I just like music suggestions based on what I like to hear.

Right. Well given that some here seem to confuse the two and since you're comment seemed a bit out of place, I assumed you thought so too. My mistake.
 
I've lost faith in the whole process.

I was certainly on board with buying digital versions of my digital music lo this past decade, but now i realize how locked in I am to the ecosystem. I don't "own" this stuff! I seem to rent space from Apple to keep it, and if I decide to leave, then, it's back to 2006 for me, i suppose.

I own all the music I bought from iTunes. It's just MP3s I can put anywhere. I do it quite frequently.
 
I can't see anything replacing my $4.99 Spotify plan (student discount). It's a great service at an amazing price.

I used to love Spotify, but recently canceled my $9.99 non-student subscription because they keep removing basic functionality from the desktop version of the app that I use pretty much all day long everyday at work.
 
That's my question. As an iTunes Match customer, I was looking forward to using iTunes Radio, but it STILL has not come to Canada, and now likely won't. Instead, I'll need to pay $12 a month (CAD) for a streaming music-only service. No thanks.

All I have to say is that this Beats thing better be GOOD and UNIQUE rather than some also-ran streaming music service.

Yep, I'm in the same situation in the UK. I've pretty much given up, I don't expect any of Apple's media services here any time even remotely soon. I just wish that new HBO service was available here, but I suspect HBO's deal with their UK partner doesn't allow it.
 
The prices are simply too high, imo.

I'm willing to pay $5 a month via student discount, but I balk at $10. I'm will to meet half way at $7

Plus on Spotify I still have to sync my local stuff that they don't have (Tool, The Beatles, Thom Yorke, Radiohead's In Rainbows, a lot of old school hip-hop albums that still aren't available for purchase nor download, etc.) so I STILL have to keep iTunes around, effectively forcing me to use 2 softwares to manage music. No thank you.
 
Nothing about the acquisition or remaking of Beats is of interest.

It still seems like Apple bought it to look cool or whatever word the hip hop / rap subculture might use to signify its popularity.

Featured "songs" include tracks laced with obscenities so disgusting if written here they'd be banned, deleted and obliterated as they very well should.


Source: lyrics for one of today's most popular songs on iTunes

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/nickiminaj/trufflebutter.html

All I see is that Apple hired 3 guys that were huge in the 90's and haven't made a hit since. But I guess at their age, they are mature enough to handle executive positions.
 
I've lost faith in the whole process.

I was certainly on board with buying digital versions of my digital music lo this past decade, but now i realize how locked in I am to the ecosystem. I don't "own" this stuff! I seem to rent space from Apple to keep it, and if I decide to leave, then, it's back to 2006 for me, i suppose.

Now it's streaming, so the music you like will never be your own, for the current generation. How do you get attached to stuff? Who, of this generation will be able to say "I used to listen to Led Zep III back in college!" when really the music they hear will now be transitory.

I understand Streaming is nice and convenient and all, but it's the fast food of music.

If you want to get attached to stuff, you still have the option of physically buying music. In fact, I've found that many of my local music stores have dropped the price of CDs below what it would cost to buy the same album on iTunes. For example, I purchased the new Kendrick Lamar album on CD last week for $8. That gets you a higher-quality package of digital music for cheaper. Although the CD is on its way out, I also buy my fair share of new and used vinyl. On Monday I picked up an original pressing of Springsteen's Darkness on the Edge of Town for $10. It sounds far better to any digital remaster and I get the advantage of having it as a physical keepsake. You still have options.

I used to feel "attached" to my DVD collection, though, and now I am more than happy to stream all the movies I watch at home. Although I personally feel sentimental about my record collection, I don't expect most people to. If physical music ownership becomes more and more of a niche, bring it on. I'm comfortable with being seen as a hipster.
 
I've lost faith in the whole process.

I was certainly on board with buying digital versions of my digital music lo this past decade, but now i realize how locked in I am to the ecosystem. I don't "own" this stuff! I seem to rent space from Apple to keep it, and if I decide to leave, then, it's back to 2006 for me, i suppose.

Now it's streaming, so the music you like will never be your own, for the current generation. How do you get attached to stuff? Who, of this generation will be able to say "I used to listen to Led Zep III back in college!" when really the music they hear will now be transitory.

I understand Streaming is nice and convenient and all, but it's the fast food of music.

I'm sorry, but this statement is full of ignorance. You can still download digital music. Streaming is not the only option, it's yet another option we have today that we didn't have ten years ago. And we still have all the options we had ten years ago. Well... the two options. Buying physical copies or listening to the radio.

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All I see is that Apple hired 3 guys that were huge in the 90's and haven't made a hit since. But I guess at their age, they are mature enough to handle executive positions.

The thing people need to know about Trent Reznor is that he has been on EVERY side of the music business. He's been signed to a label, run his own label, released his music independently, been a producer, a writer, he's done film scores, and he's definitely a fan. If anyone can find a solution that has the fans, the artists, and the labels best interest equally, it's him.

Do some research on the guy and I think you'll change your opinion. :)

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I did'nt say it's the same like Pandora. I just like music suggestions based on what I like to hear.

Beats does the same thing. You tell it what music you like and it makes suggestions of albums and playlists. You can "like" or "dislike" songs, albums, artists, or playlists. It's an alternative to Pandora and different enough to be it's own thing, but still does what you just described.
 
I used to love Spotify, but recently canceled my $9.99 non-student subscription because they keep removing basic functionality from the desktop version of the app that I use pretty much all day long everyday at work.

Like what? Just curious. I use the desktop app sparingly, so I wouldn't know if things were removed.
 
Nothing excites some of us anymore with Apple. They are nothing more than an industry sniper and follow the industry, instead of blazing new trails.

Yep. Just seeing how late they are on music streaming and storing photos in the cloud, Apple seems to be behind the times. Sure they can design some phones, but they are clueless on how people want to use them.
 
Like what? Just curious. I use the desktop app sparingly, so I wouldn't know if things were removed.

The two biggest ones for me are that they took away the ability to sort search results and the system tray icon. There is no tray icon anymore, even if the app is minimized. Both fairly major issues for me.
 
I like my new Beats :cool:

If this is gonna be any successful, by why wouldn't it be.. its time to up the content a little Apple...
 
"Spotify with Jimmy juice."​

Ew. :rolleyes:

But seriously though, this is huge that they're letting music people run the creative direction for the music app. I love Apple, but the iTunes/Music apps have been soulless in design/concept. It needs an infusion of creativity and life.

Music is a sensory experience and in the past Apple has approached it's media apps like they were for email or word processing. Rdio keeps it minimalist but still manages to be somewhat sensual and cool.
 
I've seen nothing on Trent's design skills.

I better see an option for lossless streaming. I better see the ability to have tracks I already have in iTunes be included a la Google Play Music.
 
Good and Unique? I'll settle for adequate and average so long as they beat Spotify on price. Somehow, $9/mo seems a LOT more palatable than $10/mo.

Of course, I do want the interface and service to be really great, but I'm not sure its uniqueness is terribly important in this space. Differentiation can come over time; it's more important that new competitors just get in the game.

Yeah because that extra $1 a month to have access to millions of tracks and full albums with ability to download a large chunk of music to your device for offline play, is just so draconian. People are just NEVER satisfied and too damn cheap. Expect everything to be free or .99 cents.

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The prices are simply too high, imo.

I'm willing to pay $5 a month via student discount, but I balk at $10. I'm will to meet half way at $7

Plus on Spotify I still have to sync my local stuff that they don't have (Tool, The Beatles, Thom Yorke, Radiohead's In Rainbows, a lot of old school hip-hop albums that still aren't available for purchase nor download, etc.) so I STILL have to keep iTunes around, effectively forcing me to use 2 softwares to manage music. No thank you.

Not to be flip or anything, but really $10 a month is too high to have access to several million tracks? Then maybe you shouldn't use ANY of these services. $5 a month a ****ing ridiculous, no artist or record label will allow that, why not just go all the way ask them to give you the music for free....
 
Yeah because that extra $1 a month to have access to millions of tracks and full albums with ability to download a large chunk of music to your device for offline play, is just so draconian. People are just NEVER satisfied and too damn cheap. Expect everything to be free or .99 cents.

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Not to be flip or anything, but really $10 a month is too high to have access to several million tracks? Then maybe you shouldn't use ANY of these services. $5 a month a ****ing ridiculous, no artist or record label will allow that, why not just go all the way ask them to give you the music for free....


Oh really? So how does student discounts work?

By the way, these labels own about 30% of Spotify.

So not only do they get 70% of your $10 fee, the get more in the back end since Spotify now has to pay out 30% of their net income (out of the 30% they keep).

Now you know why they keep the price high.
 
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