I think the point is that it's silly to underestimate Apple and assume they will fail, given their impeccable track record.
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I think the point is that it's silly to underestimate Apple and assume they will fail, given their impeccable track record.
gee, and here i missed the official press release from apple stating these are indeed their plans...
Wow, are people really that bad at reading?
The guy is obviously talking about the enormous pitfalls in the automotive industry. He is not disparaging Apple's rumored efforts in getting into cars. He's simply saying, "Be sure you want to do this and go in with your eyes open. If you can accept buttloads of government regulation, skinny ass margins, unions, recalls, and a crap ton of financial investment, then by all means..."
How his comments can be construed as similar to those of Ballmer and other tech execs is beyond me. I guess any perceived slight against Apple is a call to arms right?
The guy is obviously talking about the enormous pitfalls in the automotive industry. He is not disparaging Apple's rumored efforts in getting into cars. He's simply saying, "Be sure you want to do this and go in with your eyes open. If you can accept buttloads of government regulation, skinny ass margins, unions, recalls, and a crap ton of financial investment, then by all means..."How his comments can be construed as similar to those of Ballmer and other tech execs is beyond me. I guess any perceived slight against Apple is a call to arms right?
LOL laughably reminiscent of what phone company execs said ahead of the iPhone. And that too was a low margin business -- back then.
And wow, like, they make cars out of STEEL?! Holy crap! If only Apple, say, I dunno -- had some experience pioneering manufacturing techniques around the use of metal, say, I dunno, aluminum...
has us over paying for phones. I don't relish them getting us to overpay for cars. Next to a house and maybe a college education a car is the most frequently purchased big ticket item. I don't really see what could bring to the market accept may be a great UI for the Dashboard and other switches and controls.- Will it be a self driving Car guided by maps?
- With WIFI so you can work online on the way to work?
- Will they bring back Delorean styling only with Aluminum?
Deja Vu
This is more or less what I've been saying all along. Actually building a car would be a bad idea. Building something to go into a car on the other hand could work out very well. But actually trying to become the next Tesla, no. The idea is fun but I think Apple is a lot smarter than that.
This is more or less what I've been saying all along. Actually building a car would be a bad idea. Building something to go into a car on the other hand could work out very well. But actually trying to become the next Tesla, no. The idea is fun but I think Apple is a lot smarter than that.
Sez this guy...
who doesn't believe in global warming.
Whose industry crashed in 2008, and took the city of Detroit with him.
who doesn't believe in global warming.
Whose industry crashed in 2008, and took the city of Detroit with him.
*IF" Apple is working on a car I'm guessing it would be aimed at the Premium end of the market like the laptops/phones and tablets are. Don't GM make non premium cars?
The amount of ignorance in this thread is incredible. You guys think Apple is God himself and can cure cancer when they can't even release iOS 8 without annoying bugs.
Apple did not make phones but they made iPods and Computers, so it wasn't a big jump in terms of manufacturing. Cars are VASTLY different, and suggest to FAR MORE restrictions and regulations, crash test regulations, dealership and servicing networks, extreme weather testing, etc. that are different across the globe that is more than just deciding to include which plug adapter in the box.
They're making an in car system. GPS is a $2K addon for most cars. Apple modifies an iPad and sells it with 100% profit margin to the car manufacturer, and it'll still be less than 1K, where the car company will mark it up to 2K. It's extremely easy compared to building a car, let alone a self driving one.
Apple did not make phones but they made iPods and Computers, so it wasn't a big jump in terms of manufacturing. Cars are VASTLY different, and suggest to FAR MORE restrictions and regulations, crash test regulations, dealership and servicing networks, extreme weather testing, etc. that are different across the globe that is more than just deciding to include which plug adapter in the box.
They're making an in car system. GPS is a $2K addon for most cars. Apple modifies an iPad and sells it with 100% profit margin to the car manufacturer, and it'll still be less than 1K, where the car company will mark it up to 2K. It's extremely easy compared to building a car, let alone a self driving one.
The best thign that could have happened was letting these ginormous, and poorly run companies fail.
the factories, plants and everything would have sold off for ridiculously cheap and you would have seen dozens of new small car companies take over. instead the big 3 just got to 'reset" and continue to operate their failing ways.
Ross Perot
When GM bought EDS for $2 billion in preferred stock, GM Pr E, Ross Perot got a seat on the GM board. He made so much noise chastising the GM board for lack of vision and creativity that he was asked to keep silent and give up his seat on the board. His preferred stock was changed to cash as a reward for his departure.
There are many avenues into the automobile industry. I like that Apple is looking at them. Or probably creating a new one.
When GM bought EDS for $2 billion in preferred stock, GM Pr E, Ross Perot got a seat on the GM board. He made so much noise chastising the GM board for lack of vision and creativity that he was asked to keep silent and give up his seat on the board. His preferred stock was changed to cash as a reward for his departure.
There are many avenues into the automobile industry. I like that Apple is looking at them. Or probably creating a new one.
Yor mean make a better car then Rolls Royce for less then a Kia. I don't think so, suppliers are so vast and varied they can't change it up, robots to human hands build cars. They still cost thousands.
Dude has a point.
Malfunctioning iPhone? People get pissed off.
Malfunctioning part on iCar? Software glitch? People die.
I can't say I'd be first in line for one considering it'll likely be highly dependant on software for many functions and Apple's software quality has been on a pretty steep quality decline lately.
Malfunctioning iPhone? People get pissed off.
Malfunctioning part on iCar? Software glitch? People die.
I can't say I'd be first in line for one considering it'll likely be highly dependant on software for many functions and Apple's software quality has been on a pretty steep quality decline lately.
Why is it a bad idea? Just because it's complex? Apple has the biggest war chest in the world and incredible manufacturing expertise. Why wouldn't they think big and enter markets ripe for so-called disruption? Car interfaces are just incredibly bad. They lag behind current technology by 5-10 years. It's a perfect scenario for Apple to jump in and capitalize on all of their strengths to build something that could be very interesting.
CEO speak
GM is 1/12 the market cap of Apple, has some of the best brand loyalty on the planet, and will only tackle products they believe they can dominate.
I'd say he is petrified that they enter this market - and he should be.
GM is 1/12 the market cap of Apple, has some of the best brand loyalty on the planet, and will only tackle products they believe they can dominate.
I'd say he is petrified that they enter this market - and he should be.
And GM was once the largest company on earth. The bigger they are, the harder they fall.
this guy sounds like the CEO of the cell phone makers before the iphone was released.. id buy and Apple car and pay a premium for it why?? because it won't be like every other car and i do hate car manufactures making clones of there models in different shapes calling them dirffrent things i like different and i think difffrent
The Maps app situation was entirely different.
1) It was widely recognized that mapping technology was an essential smartphone feature.
2) They had for years relied on Google to supply the data for their Maps app.
3) Google, in addition to Xeroxing iOS with Android, began offering advanced features for the Android version of Maps that they withheld from the iOS version.
4) Google used this as leverage to pressure Apple to allow collection of customer data and display of Google ads on iOS, which Apple rightly refused.
Apple found themselves with no choice but to sever their ties to Google maps data. The transition was rough, but today Apple Maps are good enough that iOS users use them more than Google's. Had they not done this, they would have risked giving Google a dangerous advantage in the iOS/Android market wars.
And wow, like, they make cars out of STEEL?! Holy crap! If only Apple, say, I dunno -- had some experience pioneering manufacturing techniques around the use of metal, say, I dunno, aluminum...
Gosh you're so right.
I mean, it's not like Chevy has ever made, oh, say the CORVETTE out of fiberglass for decades, and now use carbon fiber and aluminum.
$743,000,000,000. Lol. I just wanted to say that...damn, looks even more impressive written out.
Got to at least try...
Meaning, "If we can't do it well, then no one else can. Especially Apple." I always get a kick out of hearing people say those sort of things just so they can be proven wrong.
I don't know why these people bother to say anything if it's not constructive. I don't know if Apple building a car is a good thing or not but that's not for me to decide. If Apple believes they can do a decent job then why should I say they can't. There's no point in trying if you're going to admit defeat before you start. I don't know if Apple fully knows what it is getting into, but from what I've heard, I doubt the Wright Brothers fully did either. However, they set out to do something and they changed the world. I'm fairly certain Apple has far more startup resources than the Wright Brothers did.
Meaning, "If we can't do it well, then no one else can. Especially Apple." I always get a kick out of hearing people say those sort of things just so they can be proven wrong.
I don't know why these people bother to say anything if it's not constructive. I don't know if Apple building a car is a good thing or not but that's not for me to decide. If Apple believes they can do a decent job then why should I say they can't. There's no point in trying if you're going to admit defeat before you start. I don't know if Apple fully knows what it is getting into, but from what I've heard, I doubt the Wright Brothers fully did either. However, they set out to do something and they changed the world. I'm fairly certain Apple has far more startup resources than the Wright Brothers did.