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Former PC users - what made you make the switch to Mac?
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Windows is horrific. OS X is pretty bad as well, Apple is quickly becoming a gadget company and neglecting OS X; but it is still better than vista. Long term Linux is the way to go. Once Steam is released on Linux there will be no reason for anyone to hold out anymore.
Never switched, I still use pcs. But when I'm not on my MacBook Air, I use Linux when I can and Windows only when I have to.
Same here, but people can think anything they want. If they believe that I'm totally irrational about what computer equipment I choose, then so be it - it's none of my business what such people think of me or anyone else.
Nice to have the Terminal.app, isn't it? ;-) I would feel lost without it.
I bought a Sony Vaio and Sony NW-HD1 which used Sony's Sonic Stage software. After a good few weeks of loading all my CDs onto the Vaio, they suddenly all vanished. I phoned Sony who told me it was a bug and I'd have to start again.
I took the HD1 back to John Lewis and swapped it for an iPod Nano and loaded iTunes onto my laptop. About two months later I bought a PowerBook G4.
Seven years later the opposite is now true. I'm losing faith in Apple and now seriously looking back towards PCs, Android phones and the Galaxy Tab.
I took the HD1 back to John Lewis and swapped it for an iPod Nano and loaded iTunes onto my laptop. About two months later I bought a PowerBook G4.
Seven years later the opposite is now true. I'm losing faith in Apple and now seriously looking back towards PCs, Android phones and the Galaxy Tab.
I hated my Toshiba laptop with XP. That was 4 1/2 years ago. I started investigating Linux. When I learned OS X was based on UNIX, I did some reading, bought a late 2006 MBP and couldn't be happier. I get sick even hearing "Windows".
OK, kind of an aside, but definitely related...as if I needed any more reaffirmation to make the inevitable switch over...
Last night, I decided to do a fresh re-install (4th and final) of Windows XP on my Dell Dementia before I handed it off to my folks...(Two months ago,it was plagued by a trojan which Kaspersky detected but couldn't act upon because it crippled it when I tried to take action against it)...anyways, what i bloody headache!...three hours once I got all the drivers installed afterwards...then spent a few more trying to get it back online because it wasn't recognizing the modem for some reason...ggrr!...don't know why i even bothered because it's probably gonna turn into a solitare machine anyways...
On the bright side, it makes me all the more satisfied to type this mini-rant on my new Macbook Pro baseline 15 which I set-up lickity-split just 20 minutes ago.
Last night, I decided to do a fresh re-install (4th and final) of Windows XP on my Dell Dementia before I handed it off to my folks...(Two months ago,it was plagued by a trojan which Kaspersky detected but couldn't act upon because it crippled it when I tried to take action against it)...anyways, what i bloody headache!...three hours once I got all the drivers installed afterwards...then spent a few more trying to get it back online because it wasn't recognizing the modem for some reason...ggrr!...don't know why i even bothered because it's probably gonna turn into a solitare machine anyways...
On the bright side, it makes me all the more satisfied to type this mini-rant on my new Macbook Pro baseline 15 which I set-up lickity-split just 20 minutes ago.
OK, kind of an aside, but definitely related...as if I needed any more reaffirmation to make the inevitable switch over...
Last night, I decided to do a fresh re-install (4th and final) of Windows XP on my Dell Dementia before I handed it off to my folks...(Two months ago,it was plagued by a trojan which Kaspersky detected but couldn't act upon because it crippled it when I tried to take action against it)...anyways, what i bloody headache!...three hours once I got all the drivers installed afterwards...then spent a few more trying to get it back online because it wasn't recognizing the modem for some reason...ggrr!...don't know why i even bothered because it's probably gonna turn into a solitare machine anyways...
On the bright side, it makes me all the more satisfied to type this mini-rant on my new Macbook Pro baseline 15 which I set-up lickity-split just 20 minutes ago.
In all fairness XP OS nearly 10 years old, with 2 newer OSes surpassing it.
Sure Service packs have come out.
I have 5 year old computers that have more issues loading XP than Win7.
XP is a nuts and bolts OS but unfortunately its support from OEMs is pretty much dried up. Dell stops supporting their hardware almost immediately with new OS releases and newer machines rarely are backwards compatible.
My sons home built PC took 17 minutes to load and reboot win 7 pro.
Will Steam support Adobe CS5 products?
Especially with Adobe's recent deal with Apple, which had me cheering loudly, I think OS X will be around for some time. I really hope so.
There's no doubt the mobile device industry has them at a lead, and having used Droid and Win Phone 7 devices, iOS is indeed more stable overall - 2 reboots over 2 years, vs 16 in as many weeks for my Samsung. Granted, the Samsung's screen is much nicer, but for stability iOS easily wins. Stability is the most important factor, on par with security.
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Dunno why people still use XP - I mean, no one uses 0S9 anymore, and thats just as old
1. It's stable
2. It's lean
3. In every 3Dmark bench I've ever done it outperforms Vista and Win7. No DX10/11, but that's not necessarily a bad thing
4. Corporate environments have been loathe to upgrade because:
a. Vista & 7 have issues supporting legacy business applications. I have that same situation where I work
b. Upgrading to Vista and 7 is expensive and there's a limited value to the business in what version of Windows is on the desktop.
I run a Solaris environment at work. Solaris is built on SVR4, which is more than 20 years old. Hey! OSX is built on BSD, which is also a prawn of the SVR4 loins. Old!
Just because something is old and possibly de-supported doesn't make it bad and doesn't mean it's of no use to anyone. Three of my seven Leicas were built prior to 1940 and these are the three cameras I use most.
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Marketability. I was long overdue to learn the O.S. and hardware inside and out. And my wife had been bugging me for a smaller computer that she could use and I didn't want to bother with the slowness of a netbook.
Windows 7 is a great O.S. and there are some things it does better than O.S X, My main issue is with Hardware manufacturers; they just can't seem to develop a great notebook with great battery life in a pleasing form.
And for me, the magsafe power adapter has already come in handy 3 or 4 times, which was a big draw for me.
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Their innards look solid, that's for sure! Having upgraded my 2011 model, the updated chassis cover (the two blips in the middle to add support) was a good idea.
Win7, after a period of time, is no better. Thank the registry for a lot of it, and new bugs that still haven't been fixed in SP1.
I mainly use my laptop as my main computer. It gives me freedom to work anywhere.
There is nothing comparable to the MBP in the Windows realm. While several Windows notebooks were more powerful than the earlier MBPs, none were as well built, well designed, lightweight and none had anything close in battery life performance.
With the latest generation of MBP, the MBP lead vs PC laptops has been extended further, Now the 15" and 17 " MBPs perform as well or better than any PC laptop while still retaining superior battery life and the same design benefits that have made the MBP the premium laptop
To me there are few big branded things that are worth the money. You are essentially paying for brand recognition but little else in the way of value.
The Macbook Pro is in a class by itself, and worth the price because with or without that Apple logo, nothing even comes close.
Oh yeah OSX is nice too, I do like it better than Windows but the OS is not a deal maker or breaker for me
There is nothing comparable to the MBP in the Windows realm. While several Windows notebooks were more powerful than the earlier MBPs, none were as well built, well designed, lightweight and none had anything close in battery life performance.
With the latest generation of MBP, the MBP lead vs PC laptops has been extended further, Now the 15" and 17 " MBPs perform as well or better than any PC laptop while still retaining superior battery life and the same design benefits that have made the MBP the premium laptop
To me there are few big branded things that are worth the money. You are essentially paying for brand recognition but little else in the way of value.
The Macbook Pro is in a class by itself, and worth the price because with or without that Apple logo, nothing even comes close.
Oh yeah OSX is nice too, I do like it better than Windows but the OS is not a deal maker or breaker for me
Dunno why people still use XP - I mean, no one uses 0S9 anymore, and thats just as old
Industry has a lot more obstacles to upgrading, considering the sheer volume of machines which must be upgraded, compatibility issues with software matters, learning curve for employees (most of whom are not as technologically savvy as most people like us - even using forums puts us ahead of most people in techy-ness), downtime for upgrades, requirements for verification of all the IT stuff - knowledge base, networking, etc, corporate proprietary tools, cost... lots of reasons.
It's easy to learn something if all you have to worry about is your one computer. You learn how to use it, and then use it. Upgrading every few years results in new programs, new UIs, new things that not everyone is intuitively good at.
One of my roommates company just is upgrading to Office 2007.
This is why Microsoft will lose market share is the business environment once Windows XP is no longer supported by MS (especially, with the cessation of security updates). Businesses will jump to alternative OSs, such as Linux, as a cheaper alternative to upgrading. This is even more true if the legacy business application have issues with Vista/7 because a new software solution will need to found anyway. Also, this is likely if the hardware does not support Vista/7 so costs incurred would include both software and hardware to upgrade Windows. Linux and other alternative OSs can be configured to run on hardware of almost any spec.
Good grief, Man... you think a gazillion IT professionals trained in MS OS are going to jump to unix?
No way.
The move is already happening to Win 7, with orgs holding on to Win 2008 R2 for the server side. I work with hospitals and even these dinosaurs are moving over from XP.
But we digress from the original thread...
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Linux already has greater market share in servers. IT pros using Linux in servers already are knowledgeable to facilitate the change. Also, cloud services work with any OS. Many businesses are switching to cloud based services.
Plus, budgets define these types of changes more than any other factor. The economy still hasn't fully recovered.
Let me see,
I can run xhost + without needing to edit an xconf file
Terminal.app runs bash without a compatibility layer
The wireless card always works without me needing to write part of the driver
Power management always works without needing to write my own DSDT
Standby mode actually works even if I just played a video game
Machines have reasonable lifecycle support, measured in years not months.
Power adaptors are compatible across machine generation and across all models (Nobody else even comes close here)
I can talk to a support person in person, not over the phone to another continent
While-you-wait hardware support
And a few more that I cant hink of right now...
I can run xhost + without needing to edit an xconf file
Terminal.app runs bash without a compatibility layer
The wireless card always works without me needing to write part of the driver
Power management always works without needing to write my own DSDT
Standby mode actually works even if I just played a video game
Machines have reasonable lifecycle support, measured in years not months.
Power adaptors are compatible across machine generation and across all models (Nobody else even comes close here)
I can talk to a support person in person, not over the phone to another continent
While-you-wait hardware support
And a few more that I cant hink of right now...
I switched to Mac in 2008, after I got fed up with my PCs crashing.
1 blew up.
2 got a virus (even though I had virus protection installed).
I still haven't had any problems with any of my Macs.
1 blew up.
2 got a virus (even though I had virus protection installed).
I still haven't had any problems with any of my Macs.
Sorry, I posted it here specifically because I was considering going MBP...and I did! As of the weekend I am a new Mac owner and user. I didn't really have any major issues with Windows 7, but wow, OS X is EXCELLENT for my uses. So intuitive. Now Win 7/Windows in general looks so dated to me.
mrsir, you're right, this could have gone in a general section though.
windows 7 is ace, very lightweight and really slick in usage/file managment.
i am switching to mac because i like the OS also, i like the simplicity and the way all the programs work together. e.g. dragging an image to the mail icon opens up an email. its just so nice how everything integrates.
p.s. and the build quality of the MBP/look/style.. i think it looks very nice.
i am switching to mac because i like the OS also, i like the simplicity and the way all the programs work together. e.g. dragging an image to the mail icon opens up an email. its just so nice how everything integrates
.p.s. and the build quality of the MBP/look/style.. i think it looks very nice.