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Neither my mom nor my children can use a Mac because they’re too complex, but they can all use an iPad. I’ll have to hope iOS/iPadOS will remain as locked down and straightforward as they are now.
I think they still will. Even in the US. They’ll allow alternative app stores, but you would really have to jump through hoops to get to them.
 
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I’ll make a point here many different countries have different rules they try to force Apple to do stuff Personally I’d rather not have sideloading, To keep the integrity of the software as I made a point before if epic has a problem they should go make their own damn phone, As far as Brazil goes Apple doesn’t have to do anything if they don’t sell the phones in the country it’s no big loss to Apple because people will buy it here And flip it in Brazil So it’s not like you can keep the phones out! even if you Regulatory banned them
 
Kids still play fortnight? I mean my nephews and my friends kids all moved on to other games/entertainment and I just don’t see that much interest in it anymore.
Yeah, some do. Actually a lot still do. But it isn’t as popular as it was a couple years ago…

My only quip with “sideloading” is I want the ability to lock out sideloading on devices I own or manage. I don’t want employees sideloading crap or potential malware onto company devices. But I also believe that the ability to download and load software outside the App Store is an imperative feature all users should have for their own personal devices. If our current political climate doesn’t show you why this should be a necessary feature, then I don’t know what else to say.

As for third party app stores… No, I don’t see a reason to offer that. And Apple has reached a compromise there with Epic and others, which is still evolving, as they are opening up in various markets to allow larger developers/ publishers to have their own store fronts within the App Store. IMO, that makes a whole lot more sense as it keeps all the “App Store” type purchases in one place and means that developers don’t have to support and release to multiple Stores to attract all potential customers.
 
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Complexity is not ameliorated solely or even primarily by being "locked down"
Disagreeing: a major part of complexity is down to what one decides not to do.

Let’s talk practical instead of theoretical: if my kid wants Fortnite he will ask me to circumvent the App Store and that will complex things: one more place for credit card, one more account, maybe one more place to check for unwanted subscriptions, one more entity to deal with for reimbursements etc., just one more “thing” to stay on top of and be aware of.

You can decide that’s fine for you, and I’m not here to shout the heavens are falling from this, but it is added complexity when what we have now is a (reasonably) simple device that just works.

Maybe alt stores will work out fine, they might stay in the periphery, and Apple might do enough smart things to make it easy for me to manage those apps and purchases and subscriptions etc., but an honest analysis shows pretty clearly why some of us are looking at this change hoping for the best but fearing it’ll be a net-worsening of our experience.
 
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Apple should just let every country have third party app stores and be nice about it. They can say "if something goes wrong with your phone because of something you downloaded and installed, it isn't our fault." as they do with Macs.

The interesting thing is if you actually take your iPhone to the Apple Store for help, they spend all their time blaming your issues on third party software anyway. So Apple is trying to have it both ways.
 
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At this point, I really wish Apple would just buy Epic Games, fire the CEO, bury Fortnight forever, and continue developing their Unreal Engine. 🤞
Not sure Apple would know what to do with the Unreal Engine. Aside from gaming barely being an afterthought for Apple for decades now, the thought of having online infrastructure and tools supporting developers for free while they are developing with the engine is probably unbearable to Apple bean counters. They would probably feel compelled to turn it into a revenue generating service and charge developer fees for unrestricted access to tools, effectively killing what fueled the engine’s popularity in recent years.
 
On hardware that tracks their location in real-time, contains identifying biometric data, and a microphone for surreptitious listening, along with an extensive digital trail. Absolutely I want Apple to be responsible for the apps available on my pocket surveillance device.
But Apple is only providing the allusion of being responsible. I and every other developer knows how to get past Apple's incomplete and lacking review process. Once you understand that "that responsibility" is only an illusion on Apple's part, then this argument falls apart completely.
 
Apple shouldn't be allowed to charge a "core technology fee". Why do they have to charge this fee? Throughout the history of computing anyone has been able to write any program they want to run on any computer. Apple is the only company making people pay a tax to run code on their products.
 
Because it is political, not functional.
Nonsense.

You're saying how you can get past an Apple app review and that Apple is just giving an illusion of being responsible. I'm giving you an example of where an app did just that and is no longer able to sell apps on the Apple App Store, despite the app bringing in millions of dollars to Apple. This is Apple being responsible.
 
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No it isn't. It's a desire.

Being able to see the letters on the screen is a necessity.
Agreed. They both are a necessity, accessibility and sideloading. Sideloading on the Mac is freedom happily coexisting with accessibility 😊☮️
 
Epic Games is so full of crap. where’s there law suit and big stance against Sony / Microsoft and Nintendo? Don’t they charge even more of a cut and allow nobody except who they want on their locked in, single choice game stores? …
 
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Nonsense.

You're saying how you can get past an Apple app review and that Apple is just giving an illusion of being responsible. I'm giving you an example of where an app did just that and is no longer able to sell apps on the Apple App Store, despite the app bringing in millions of dollars to Apple. This is Apple being responsible.
it is still an allusion.
 
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Neither my mom nor my children can use a Mac because they’re too complex, but they can all use an iPad. I’ll have to hope iOS/iPadOS will remain as locked down and straightforward as they are now.

I found iOS/iPadOS way is more complex and convoluted than macOS or Windows.

A simple copy and paste file involves more steps than macOS. Connecting to local wired printer is almost impossible without convoluted way to make it wireless. This is just a small tips of iceberg. And this is why I haven't brought a single iPad for past few years and my iPad is mostly in the drawer.
 
Nope. The actions have made the store more secure.

Still doesn't prevent malware show up in the App Store. My wife haven't side load anything on her Google Pixel, but I am still glad Google provide a way to side load. I have side-load bunch of apps on my Pixel phone and I am glad I have ability to do.
 
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