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Maybe, but the X chips aren’t so different from the regular parts. SoC development is a couple years ahead of release, Apple is already working on A15 and probably A16 as well. Schedules are locked in pretty far in advance.

Apple SoC design team might not even have a roadmap for A15-A16 yet and it won't be pulling out impressive performance without bigger node shrink.
 
No sense in me upgrading iPad Pro cellular until you know it’s 5G or 5G is a lot more common/available.
5G is already available in my city.

The good news is that if you're on the right carrier, it's a free upgrade to some existing 4G plans. The bad news is that the key word is "some", as not all existing 4G plans on that carrier get the upgrade. The even worse news is that after the first year, for those upgraded 4G plans, they will start charging a $15 per month premium to use 5G. :mad:

The other point is that the 5G chipsets from Qualcomm in 2020 are probably better for 4G than the Intel 4G chipsets from 2018.
 
I don’t know if I’m too unique of a consumer for this but an iPad Pro mini would be amazing. Not from a performance perspective but the form factor. I use my mini daily for my work and it’s much better for travel (whenever that resumes). Probably not enough demand for Apple to make it but maybe one day!
TBH, as an 11” iPad Pro user I find 11” as the sweet spot, but if I didn’t need to use it with a Smart Keyboard in a “laptop replacement” use, I’d probably aim for a smaller 10” iPad mini with the new design
 
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I would definitely wait now that CoinX has said to wait. Not sure how long but I think soon.
 
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Well the A12X was available shortly after A12; presumably A13X could have been ready last October.

A12X is a beast, I just don’t see how it makes much sense to launch another 7nm “X” part.

There was no A11X ( A10X -> A12X . Also 10nm -> 7nm ). That's probably a major contributing reason to the short gap between A12 and A12X. If spending time and effort on a A13X then A14X has a decent chance of sliding out.

There is no substantive process shrink for the A13X. ( so 7nm to 7 "enhanced" nm ) . So the A13X would just grow bigger. ( just like the A13 did over the A12 The Neural/AI/ML enhancements and additions swamped the mild density tweak. ). It is already a bigger chip for the context.

It would make sense if the the A14X was sliding out until 2021 (or so ). [ Apple is going to avoid larger 5nm dies for about a year. ] . To do it in shorter time frame, Apple could lower the gap between A14 and A14X and played more with clock binning and packaging (and cooling ) to distance the from each other. Another possibility is that the mini-LED iPad Pro rumored wouldn't replace the these new models and would be some mega bucks model plopped on top. with relatively very low run rate and a much higher priced A14X. Since wouldn't be able to do the volume sales, Apple would need a volume filler of a A13X to handle the load.

[ if the Fall iPad Pro is similar to the Mac Pro in trying to jump to nosebleed price levels ... decent chance that may not come out on time if fall into global recession by then. Blindly throw more money at ever higher priced hardware market may have cooled off by then. ]
 
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Apple SoC design team might not even have a roadmap for A15-A16 yet and it won't be pulling out impressive performance without bigger node shrink.
Not only do they have a roadmap, they’re well into development. CPU design takes longer than a year.

But with risk production of 3nm set for later this year, it seems unclear whether A15 will be on the 3nm process node or still at 5nm.
 
Don't know where you learned that "science" but that's completely inaccurate. Viruses can survive weeks at most, (like any organism, they need something to survive off of.) 🤦‍♂️;)
Viruses have two forms. As a particle and inside cells where particles are assembled. As a particle it can theoretically keep its integrity for long time under the correct storage conditions (-80 Deg C freezers or liquid nitrogen). In "normal" environment, the virus particle can keep its integrity for hours to perhaps weeks depending on the virus type and environment. If the virus particle looses its integrity, it cannot infect a cell.

Viruses do not live as they have no metabolism of its own but it replicates (copies itself) inside living cells. It replicates by hijacking the cell synthesis machinery. That is not the same as it "eats" the cell. For eating it needs its own metabolism.

Back to the thread proper. A13X can be at 5nm. It would be a good "test run" of a 1-2 million chips A13X before A14.
 
There was no A11X ( A10X -> A12X . Also 10nm -> 7nm ). That's probably a major contributing reason to the short gap between A12 and A12X. If spending time and effort on a A13X then A14X has a decent chance of sliding out.

There is no substantive process shrink for the A13X. ( so 7nm to 7 "enhanced" nm ) . So the A13X would just grow bigger. ( just like the A13 did over the A12 The Neural/AI/ML enhancements and additions swamped the mild density tweak. ). It is already a bigger chip for the context.

It would make sense if the the A14X was sliding out until 2021 (or so ). [ Apple is going to avoid larger 5nm dies for about a year. ] . To do it in shorter time frame, Apple could lower the gap between A14 and A14X and played more with clock binning and packaging (and cooling ) to distance the from each other. Another possibility is that the mini-LED iPad Pro rumored wouldn't replace the these new models and would be some mega bucks model plopped on top. with relatively very low run rate and a much higher priced A14X. Since wouldn't be able to do the volume sales, Apple would need a volume filler of a A13X to handle the load.

[ if the Fall iPad Pro is similar to the Mac Pro in trying to jump to nosebleed price levels ... decent chance that may not come out on time if fall into global recession by then. Blindly throw more money at ever higher priced hardware market may have cooled off by then. ]
Maybe I don’t quite understand your post but I don’t see Apple doing both an A13X and A14X in so short a time period. No software really taxes the A12X as it is, as far as I can tell. If there’s an A13X, I’d next expect an A15X next year. But who knows.
 
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Maybe I don’t quite understand your post but I don’t see Apple doing both an A13X and A14X in so short a time period. No software really taxes the A12X as it is, as far as I can tell. If there’s an A13X, I’d next expect an A15X next year. But who knows.

No, the A12x is very weak in GPU performance and that's where Apple should be improving in making it on par with AMD high end mobile discrete GPU.
 
I'm still trying to figure out why Apple needs stores at all. I haven't bought an iPhone or iPad from an Apple store in like...

...ever.

Everything's online. Same prices. No driving. No standing in line. Overnight delivery.

That's because Apple wants their customers to be able to experience their products first hand, and also form a connection with their customers like a community within their stores (relating back to their store designs). That said, I do purchase nearly all of my products through their online store too lol.
 
Not only do they have a roadmap, they’re well into development. CPU design takes longer than a year.

But with risk production of 3nm set for later this year, it seems unclear whether A15 will be on the 3nm process node or still at 5nm.

Apple SoC on 5nm or 3nm might deliver better battery life but the performance improvement is going to be subtle.
 
No, the A12x is very weak in GPU performance and that's where Apple should be improving in making it on par with AMD high end mobile discrete GPU.
Very weak in GPU performance? Hardly.
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Apple SoC on 5nm or 3nm might deliver better battery life but the performance improvement is going to be subtle.
Can’t be said since we don’t know what architecture improvements future Ax chips will include.
 
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Now the questions are:
  • Which CPUs are being used? A13x, or already A14x? Aka is the iPad Pro late to the party or early?
  • How much RAM do these new iPads have? Still 4GB, or maybe 8GB across the board?

Allow me to add:

- Will it have full-functioning XCode?
- How about Final Cut Pro? It is a "Pro" device, right?
- And... MatLab? Spyder? Real SolidWorks and Full AutoCAD, you know, professional software.

I can only wish...
 
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Allow me to add:

- Will it have full-functioning XCode?
- How about Final Cut Pro? It is a "Pro" device, right?
- And... MatLab? Spyder? Real SolidWorks and Full AutoCAD, you know, professional software.

I can only wish...
Apple seems content to offer MacOS versions of Xcode, FCP and Logic Pro. Third party developers will make the decision that best suits them, as well.

I wouldn’t hold my breath for any of the software you mention.
 
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I am completely happy with my 11” iPad Pro and based on the rumored features, am not compelled to upgrade to the new one. I would however buy an ipad mini Pro with the slimmer bezels, flat edged design & apple pencil 2 support. But i doubt that will happen.
 
5G is already available in my city.

The good news is that if you're on the right carrier, it's a free upgrade to some existing 4G plans. The bad news is that the key word is "some", as not all existing 4G plans on that carrier get the upgrade. The even worse news is that after the first year, for those upgraded 4G plans, they will start charging a $15 per month premium to use 5G. :mad:

The other point is that the 5G chipsets from Qualcomm in 2020 are probably better for 4G than the Intel 4G chipsets from 2018.

$15/month premium to just suck up your data more quickly. I still don't get the appeal of 5g until we have true unlimited plans, and even then I don't get what this would actually make better on a smartphone.
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Hoping they sneak in an ipad mini "pro" also, but it's most likely way too soon to hope for one. May have to look at the Surface Neo or the Surface Go if they release a new one.
 
$15/month premium to just suck up your data more quickly. I still don't get the appeal of 5g until we have true unlimited plans, and even then I don't get what this would actually make better on a smartphone.
It sounds like you're focusing too much on throughput speeds.

The appeal of 5G to me is shorter latency and better management of capacity. The faster speed is just an additional bonus.

The other point (that I mentioned already) is that current 5G chipsets are better at 4G than older 4G chipsets.
 
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It sounds like you're focusing too much on throughput speeds.

The appeal of 5G to me is shorter latency and better management of capacity. The faster speed is just an additional bonus.

The other point (that I mentioned already) is that current 5G chipsets are better at 4G than older 4G chipsets.

But what's the tangible benefit? I get that latency will be better, along with throughput and capacity, I just don't see where that's an issue with 4g today and where those improvements would actually be tangible/noticable. Don't misunderstand me, I'm genuinely ignorant and would like to know why I should pay a premium for 5G, certainly I understand that overall it's an improvement just as 4G was over 3G, I just don't see where it will help your typical wireless customer's experience. The switch from 3G to 4G seemed much more dramatic.
 
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