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Yeah but Brazil is organizable. India is not. There's no way Foxconn could get the performance ratios in India anywhere near those of China or even Brazil. Software companies and call centers have pulled out of Bangalore. How would Foxconn be any different? Baksheesh only goes so far... Plus there's a deep and bitter rivalry between India and China - the Indians have a superiority complex, and the Chinese are not bothered.

Have you been to India, in the context of business related to manufacturing in India? How do you fathom that a lot of car companies are making their cars in India and exporting them abroad, if the society is corrupt to the core, dishonest through and through and hell on earth? On what exactly are you basing your comments?

Indian quality makes Chinese quality look like Swiss/German quality or magic.

You have not, and I mean really, seen the quality India can produce. Really.

India has a major issue with corruption which I've witnessed first hand but labeling Brazil/China as 'better' couldn't be further from the truth.

Indian government is indeed highly prone to corruption but not everyone in India out of its billions of people is inclined towards taking bribes or 'baksheesh' as you call it. If you have a problem with your computer, and the call gets routed to India, the Indian tech guy will work towards solving your issue, 'baksheesk' or no 'baksheesh' : quality of service however is a whole different issue which I won't even bother to open.

Rivalry between India and China ? Are you kidding me ? India specialises in the service sector while the Chinese excel at manufacturing : hardly any overlap. Militarily, China can have India for breakfast,lunch and dinner so I don't see what you are getting at.

Cheers mate

Correct. China is one country that can have a lot of countries for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and not even burp as a mark of respect.
 
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No. This website is most likely blocked by the Chinese government.

It's not...thank god!

Actually having said that, I do get horrendous load times (minutes) when I'm not using my VPN.

EDIT: you know what, I'm checking over 3G now, I cant get it to load.

Yes, Yes perhaps Macrumors is banned in China ...
 
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Those who are questioning the quality of Foxconn produced Apple devices should remember that lots of products are assembled/manufactured in India and exported to many counties including USA. For example, Mercedes, Audi, BMW all assemble and manufacture their cars and they are best in business. So it is ridiculous to say that the quality would be bad.

It's not...thank god!

Actually having said that, I do get horrendous load times (minutes) when I'm not using my VPN.

EDIT: you know what, I'm checking over 3G now, I cant get it to load.

Yes, Yes perhaps Macrumors is banned in China ...

Not banned, but the javascript files used in the website are from banned sources like Google.

Please don't manufacture anything in India... quality is not their strong suit. As already posted, China is like the Swiss compared to India.

China is a copycat country. The products their companies manufacture are of very horrible quality.
 
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Will these factories come with all the bells and whistles too ... such as suicide nets?

Different work ethics and approach. In India Apple will be told they are on schedule and all is fine, till they reach a milestone :)

China is a copycat country. The products their companies manufacture are of very horrible quality.

You do realise, nearly all of apple's products are made in China.

There is a huge difference between someone producing a fake product and moving their manafacturing there?

The quality of my Apple products speaks for itself.

Is this gonna make my iPhone cost cheaper to purchase in India? :p

If it does, you will not benefit from it. Though if your a shareholder ;)
 
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What will happen when the day arrives that everyone in the world gets paid much more in manufacturing? Will there be a huge collapse in sales, or will we all just suck up the higher prices?

I watch and wait.

Machines will make everything, meaning nobody will need to do manual labour. Of course, there's a lot of discussion to be had about what kind of society we will have - I'm hoping for Star Trek, but there are plenty of examples of dystopias...
 
For you to buy? Nope.for them to make yes.

I won't buy a made in India Apple product.

The short answer to your comment is that 'for profit' corporations will always try to reduce costs and maintain acceptable levels of quality. Even if that means building a factory in Timbuctoo.

Equally important is that consumers like us will STILL buy these products as we believe in big brands like Apple to main high levels of quality standards. Its a global economyout there and while I do concede that there is a flip side to globalization as well, we can't afford to stay in our cocooned,hampster's paradise wherein we arbitrarily classify one's countries products as inferior. China makes nearly all of Apple's products and they generally come out on top. India can probably too if they want to but probably not as economically as their Chinese counterparts.

Cheers
 
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China is a copycat country. The products their companies manufacture are of very horrible quality.

Totally agree and that is why I would in no way want to buy any Apple product made in India, because they are even worse. In India the Chinese products are the top shelf ones, and they always cost more; not sure why another poster said they cost less there, it isn't so.
 
Totally agree and that is why I would in no way want to buy any Apple product made in India, because they are even worse. In India the Chinese products are the top shelf ones, and they always cost more; not sure why another poster said they cost less there, it isn't so.

Obviously they're the top shelf products, everything is made in China.
So that Chinese made iPhone is bound to be more expensive.

Unless you're talking about the knockoffs, then mate you're shopping in the wrong store. :rolleyes:
 
Obviously they're the top shelf products, everything is made in China.
So that Chinese made iPhone is bound to be more expensive.

Unless you're talking about the knockoffs, then mate you're shopping in the wrong store. :rolleyes:

Exactly mate, everything is made in China and it costs more and India is not the place to have things made if you care about quality.
 
Exactly mate, everything is made in China and it costs more and India is not the place to have things made if you care about quality.

You do get that you're ranting on something that is yet to be even made.
By the way, everything is made in China 'cause it costs less, not more.

Regardless, as long as they make just as good of a product or better am not even complaining.
Cheers.
 
You do get that you're ranting on something that is yet to be even made.
By the way, everything is made in China 'cause it costs less, not more.

Regardless, as long as they make just as good of a product or better am not even complaining.
Cheers.

I do get that nothing Apple is yet made in India, hence the article. Everything is made in China (rather than India) 'cause they have a reasonable level of quality but they are considering India because it costs less. I have been to both places for over a year each and know very well how their industries and outcomes differ. All I am speaking or shouting at length about in a wild impassioned way is for Apple to move some manufacturing to India will only lower the quality of their product which may lead you to complain... lol
 
The short answer to your comment is that 'for profit' corporations will always try to reduce costs and maintain acceptable levels of quality. Even if that means building a factory in Timbuctoo.

Equally important is that consumers like us will STILL buy these products as we believe in big brands like Apple to main high levels of quality standards. Its a global economyout there and while I do concede that there is a flip side to globalization as well, we can't afford to stay in our cocooned,hampster's paradise wherein we arbitrarily classify one's countries products as inferior. China makes nearly all of Apple's products and they generally come out on top. India can probably too if they want to but probably not as economically as their Chinese counterparts.

Cheers
The day I see Made In India on any Apple product,I will simply choose a different brand.simple as that.there are choices and competition is very close.unlike what you think,people will not buy anything they make anywhere.
if they make their products in India,quality control will suffer more,also "prestige" will be hugely affected as India is known for making the worst quality products in this planet.
It seems you simply forgot these are premiumly priced products,there is nothing premium about something made in India,who cares Apple designed it or not.
 
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The day I see Made In India on any Apple product,I will simply choose a different brand.simple as that.there are choices and competition is very close.unlike what you think,people will not buy anything they make anywhere.
if they make their products in India,quality control will suffer more,also "prestige" will be hugely affected as India is known for making the worst quality products in this planet.
It seems you simply forgot these are premiumly priced products,there is nothing premium about something made in India,who cares Apple designed it or not.

Yeah sure, knock yourself out, being manufactured in China is way more 'premium' than India.

We should be manufacturing in our good old US of A, Germany or Japan where quality standards are going to be quite high but then Apple will pass on the higher overheads to you as no way they are going to absorb the increased costs just so that you can enjoy your premium/prestige product. Then you (and I) will both complain of jacked up prices, Apple being too greedy etc etc

In short, mate, they are in the business of making money, lots of it and are VERY good at it. That's why they do what they do and that's also why they are a billion dollar corporation and I'm just an ordinary guy posting here on this forum ;-)

I rest my case.

Cheers
 
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