Apple found foxconn becuase they are one of the top electronics manufacturers. Check how many foxconn manufactured chips are on all the stuff you own. My gigabyte motherboard has foxconn mosfets all over it
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Foxconn Workers Reportedly Strike over iPhone 5 Quality Control Demands
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Apple found foxconn becuase they are one of the top electronics manufacturers. Check how many foxconn manufactured chips are on all the stuff you own. My gigabyte motherboard has foxconn mosfets all over it
Honestly this has nothing to do with Apple. Foxconn and the upper management is the issue. Apple pays Foxconn x amount of dollars to make said product. Foxconn finds the cheapest labor in the world and puts them to work for pennies. Foxconn gets pissed at the workers if they don't get the product done right cause that comes out of Foxconn bottom line. So then that comes out of the workers pay.(which is not right) Apple uses Foxconn because they have the lowest bid and can pump the product out fast. Not Apples fault at all. IT IS FOXCONN that is the issue.
And I suppose if you buy a brand new bike on the street from the back of a van for half price you have no culpability in the theft?
I completely disagree with this, we have record unemployment, especially if you include those that have simply given up on looking for work. We have tons of empty factory space in Detroit and a lot in California. Yes, they would need to be modified to accomodate Apple's needs, but that means even more jobs for Americans.
The cost would rise slightly, but consider how little the assembly cost is in comparison to the rest of the phone, it wouldn't raise the manufacturing costs more than 10%. It might mean a hit to the bottom line per unit, but I bet that they would sell even more units and this would end up improving Apple's bottom line even further.
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Just because they are all over everything does not mean that they are the best, it means that they have the best balance between cost and quality.
Probably strictly economic reasons. Robotics are super-accurate , but also very expensive, and with a population of 1.35 billon, their labor pool is vast, and at those rates of ~$2/hr (with no unions), it's a no-brainer.
Are we singling out APPLE again? Almost everything we buy nowadays seems to be made in China: cameras, home electronics, cutlery, bicycle tubes, shoe laces, you name it.
It's hypocritical of us to dump all this at APPLE's doorstep, and then stand in line expecting to buy the next great gadget at a bargain price.
Honestly this has nothing to do with Apple. Foxconn and the upper management is the issue. Apple pays Foxconn x amount of dollars to make said product. Foxconn finds the cheapest labor in the world and puts them to work for pennies. Foxconn gets pissed at the workers if they don't get the product done right cause that comes out of Foxconn bottom line. So then that comes out of the workers pay.(which is not right) Apple uses Foxconn because they have the lowest bid and can pump the product out fast. Not Apples fault at all. IT IS FOXCONN that is the issue.
I would add, that it's the Chinese government's responsibility to fix China's labor problems, and we shouldn't be interfering with that.
Uh huh. You are implicitly supporting worker abuse. I have an idea--how about YOU go try working in a factory for a while, then get back to us about how bad unions are.
Working there has got to be tedious, boring and stressfull; something most of us would probably not be willing to do, especially for those wages!
Source please? If your figures are correct, who wouldn't gladly pay that extra $4-6 to support our own workers and economy.
Foxconn workers are so lucky... All those brand new Apple products go through their hands way before they even get released. They must feel proud, not go on strike! I want to work for Foxconn and they don't have to pay me. Ttouching the delicate skin of a brand new iPad mini, the smell of fresh solder in the morning... Oooh, life is beautiful at Foxconn, but they just don't see it
Uh huh. You are implicitly supporting worker abuse. I have an idea--how about YOU go try working in a factory for a while, then get back to us about how bad unions are.
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Actually, estimates are that building them here would add $4-6 per phone, not $300. And yes, I would gladly pay that.
If that were all it would cost, and Apple ate the cost, that would be a great pr move...
There's no way it would only add $4-$6 per phone. Your labor is going from $2/hr to ~$12/hr plus benefits, all told around $16/hr. Then you have the plants. This is the US with actual environmental laws so those costs are going to go up. The cost of the phone would go up dramatically. That would put Apple out of the marketplace. If you think that Foxconn only builds the iPhone, look around. Half the electronics in your house have Foxconn in them.
now, if Foxconn won't treat workers respectively, iPhone 5 will continually be piece of ****. if you order it now, you can't get it this year.
Just to chime in, US factory workers get paid much more than $12 an hour. Try $20+. This also holds true to any distribution center, non-con assembly line, and R+D facilities with no WIP.
They are bored with iDevices they wanna assemble some Mac pros and iMacs.
Good on them if they are being treated like sh**. Demand better.
This could prove to be really bad if they do strike. Does Apple have a backup plan? The media will blow this up as well. Stock going to dip further as well if so.
Good on them if they are being treated like sh**. Demand better.
This could prove to be really bad if they do strike. Does Apple have a backup plan? The media will blow this up as well. Stock going to dip further as well if so.
Is the throwing of cases around is a form of protest or more likely the assembly line dumps the frames into a bin and they ding/scuff etc.
Either way, if folks are mistreated and not provided the proper tools, shame on apple.
Build iPhones in America? Sure! But get ready for the price of the device skyrocket if they do. Are you prepared to pay 2k for an iPhone?
I do agree with you. But considering the iPhone is one of the most expensive phones on the planet I think we all expect a pristine iPhone delivered to us. Takes some of us a long time to save up for one. (not everyone can afford an iPhone on plan).
I understand lemons are common place. And if Apple exchanged iPhones without question for a scratch on arrival then no problem. But I'm not sure if Apple Care covers this.
Every time there are discussions about bringing jobs back, this guy comes up with the same response! Same amount even!
There are several posters like that who respond the same way every time.
I suspect paid trolls, hired by either China or Foxcon.
Whoops! Edit to include Apple as a suspect.
The real answer is, of course, that labor alone is not the deciding issue as there isn't that much labor time. A few bucks extra at most. The real issue is overseas taxation, money laundering by Chinese/American companies, lack of environment regulations and things like that. Not labor alone.
oh no... lol...
iPhone 5 going down, and how long has it been out for ?
Foxconn already feeling the pitch at pressure....
Spose this could have happened with the 4s too, so i'll just put the blame to "not enough iPhone 5's being done" at launch.
How are they gonna get out of this one ?
Stay tuned for a future post....
iPhone 5 going down, and how long has it been out for ?
Foxconn already feeling the pitch at pressure....
Spose this could have happened with the 4s too, so i'll just put the blame to "not enough iPhone 5's being done" at launch.
How are they gonna get out of this one ?
Stay tuned for a future post....
Apple is spending $199 on material + $8 direct labor + $4-$5 on Shipping.
Apple is selling the cheapest version for $649.
They can definitely make it here by cutting into their profit without raising the price of the phone.
There are Environmental and OSHA issues. Even if Apple decides to assemble in USA, chip manufacturing is still a monopoly of China because of rare earth metal availability, that means most of the $199 Material has to be sourced from China/Taiwan/South Korea...
I have some rather comprehensive long term experience in China in the field of manufacturing. I've witnessed some pretty ugly conflicts between workers & management within facilities very similar to Foxconn. Unlike the US where the threat of a strike is talked about for months or more before anything happens, in China it can occur as fast as lighting a blow torch. Nor does it manifest itself like the kind of strike that comes to mind when in the USA.
Apples amazing ability to keep things out of the press till the very last minute, doesn't bode well for the Cupertino Corp. They may have already risked being paralyzed in their tracks. Although they have high skills & unbelievable luck, if it runs out we may see some massive headlines & news that will change Apple for quite some time.
Stay tuned.
Apples amazing ability to keep things out of the press till the very last minute, doesn't bode well for the Cupertino Corp. They may have already risked being paralyzed in their tracks. Although they have high skills & unbelievable luck, if it runs out we may see some massive headlines & news that will change Apple for quite some time.
Stay tuned.