In a way, isn't this what Apple wants? I mean it would be bad if they are cutting both 5S and 5C orders. But if potential 5C customers are deciding the 5S is better, that is great.
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In a way, isn't this what Apple wants? I mean it would be bad if they are cutting both 5S and 5C orders. But if potential 5C customers are deciding the 5S is better, that is great.
When did Apple ever hype the 5C as a low cost phone? In fact, on Apple's last earnings call, Tim Cook specifically said the 5C was not meant to be a cheap phone. If anything Apple could be faulted for allowing the rumor mill to run with the "C" stands for "cheap" meme.
Times are different. The 5c seems to be lacking in comparison to the 5s. The 3G and 3GS were the only phones in the lineup when they were introduced so buyer's had nothing released at the same time to compare them to.
I thought the 5c would sell better. I still have yet to see one in the wild.
Apple didn't hype it as the low cost iPhone. The media and sites like MacRumors and forum posters on sites like this one did.
isn't this just another rumor with the right numbers but the wrong context and conclusion? one data point, remember?
i read this and take it as apple is just shifting production of iPhone 5s and iPhone 5c to their respective factories and probably even adding more factories to make the iPhone 5c.
it's just shifting around of facilities so stop complaining about all the "apple is doomed" people out there because it's all you guys.
i read this and take it as apple is just shifting production of iPhone 5s and iPhone 5c to their respective factories and probably even adding more factories to make the iPhone 5c.
it's just shifting around of facilities so stop complaining about all the "apple is doomed" people out there because it's all you guys.
Apple wants you to buy the 5S though. The 5C is just to generate buzz and get a few extra price-conscious customers. It's much better for the company to sell a lot of their flagship model and a few of their mid-tier model, than for them to sell medium amounts of both.
Also I think this might be a signal of a new product-line approach. the 5C is in essence replacing the function that last year's 5 would have this year (a cheaper, slower model). Maybe going forward, instead of recycling their old models in the coming years, they'll automatically kill the product and release a down-graded flagship model for each cycle.
Also I think this might be a signal of a new product-line approach. the 5C is in essence replacing the function that last year's 5 would have this year (a cheaper, slower model). Maybe going forward, instead of recycling their old models in the coming years, they'll automatically kill the product and release a down-graded flagship model for each cycle.
Apple never said it was going to be low cost. Lots and lots of rumors did. It's funny to see how history changes perception in time.
Yep almost missed that. Nonetheless it turns out to be a big mistake to sell 5C at current price point
Do you have any sales figures to compare 5C sales to 4S sales last year? I believe the last story MR ran claimed the 5C was selling better than the 4S had. If that's the case is it really a failure? We don't really have any hard data to prove the 5C is a failure. It's entirely possible that the 5S is more popular than Apple's internal forecasts and thus they're ramping up production to fulfill the demand.
Or maybe people are just not into the 5C and Apple made a big marketing mistake investing on this model? :-\
The only thing that's different is no Steve Jobs. Jobs could release a plastic phone and the faithful would lap it up. Cook releases a plastic phone and it's a failure.
my wife loves the iPhone 5C, she don't want the 5S. I think a lot of people are like her.
Not everyproduct is going to be a hit. Wish they'd bring back the iPhone 5.
The 5C *is* the iPhone 5. In fact, it has better battery life better LTE reception. It's just in a polycarbonate case instead of the aluminum.
If people are buying the 5S instead of the 5C, this is not really a problem for Apple.
I'm sure a few people are. But most who are looking for a smartphone at a mid-range price point will end up with an Android phone, which is why Apple's market share is shrinking.
I have seen one person with a 5C. Some people don't care about the greatest specs however they do care about looking like they are rich and the 5C makes them look cheap. At least in the past if they bought a previous generation they weren't buying a cheap phone they were buying last years top of the line. That said 80,000 per day (likely 7 days a week) is still a pretty large number compared to most phones out there I am sure
Exactly. Not to mention that the 5c is a slight upgrade over the 5 hardware spec wise (battery, front camera, improved LTE).
My only complaint with the 5c is the color choices. I think if they went with the same color selection as what the 4th gen iPod nano had they would sell much better. At the very least, they should add both a black and a Product RED model.
Is it possible, and I'm not saying this was their mindset, that they throw the 5C out there for $100 less so when people see that particular iPhone, they see it being very easy to drop the extra c-note and get the better flagship model?
They were still going to grab 5C customers -- I actually know several in my own personal circle that have one -- but it was going to help drive people to the higher-end model because why not drop the extra $100 for the extra features? If you continue to sell the iPhone 5 at a lower price, say $99, a lot of people might see that as the real bargain and hold off on paying more for the new one that's only one generation apart.
Just an idea, nothing more. This heavy cup of coffee is responsible for this post.
They were still going to grab 5C customers -- I actually know several in my own personal circle that have one -- but it was going to help drive people to the higher-end model because why not drop the extra $100 for the extra features? If you continue to sell the iPhone 5 at a lower price, say $99, a lot of people might see that as the real bargain and hold off on paying more for the new one that's only one generation apart.
Just an idea, nothing more. This heavy cup of coffee is responsible for this post.
That's probably because Steve would have had the balls to release it at a competitive price point, without quivering in fear at the though of potentially cannibalising the 5s.
I like my 5S but man I wish it had a bigger display. Not sure why Apple refuses to offer this option currently. Moving from a galaxy note 2 I like how it fits in my pocket but everything is so damn hard to read (and I am only 31)
I'm not sure Apple misread this at all, certainly concerning price points, their mistake was nothing to do with a $100 difference or anything of that nature, it was in assuming their company competed with Android so directly.
You don't buy an iPhone, any iPhone, because it represents good value for money: if you want that, go for a Nexus 5 every day - that phone has the best "features" of any device even close to that price point. You buy an iPhone because you want the best OS (assuming you are the average user who is clueless as to what Unix is, let alone how to manipulate it), on the best ecosystem, with a device which just works and does everything you want it to in an easy, simple manner time after time. Cost really isn't the differentiator. As such, when presented with two phones, regardless of the cost, the Apple consumer will choose the better one. Now sure, if that price difference were $300 it would give pause for thought and the 5C would be an extremely attractive option, but thats not what Apple wants since it would kiss goodbye to a massive chunk of profits.
Switch now to emerging economies where import taxes can make expensive items even more unaffordable (think Brazil), the 5S has no place their. This consumer that wants the best no matter the cost doesn't really exist since the middle class is so much smaller, and value for money is king. The 5C allows Apple to be remotely competitive here, especially when you hold a 5C and an S4 in your hands and just feel the difference. So - the 5C has a purpose in developing economies.
Apple can either a) not sell it in developed countries, to many complaints from media, consumers and Android fanboys who say this is one of the reasons Apple sucks - forcing richer countries to buy the more expensive phone or b) sell it, but only at a slight discount, such that it might just convince a few people who otherwise wouldn't go Apple to do so, but not cheap enough to cannibalise the 5S.
You don't buy an iPhone, any iPhone, because it represents good value for money: if you want that, go for a Nexus 5 every day - that phone has the best "features" of any device even close to that price point. You buy an iPhone because you want the best OS (assuming you are the average user who is clueless as to what Unix is, let alone how to manipulate it), on the best ecosystem, with a device which just works and does everything you want it to in an easy, simple manner time after time. Cost really isn't the differentiator. As such, when presented with two phones, regardless of the cost, the Apple consumer will choose the better one. Now sure, if that price difference were $300 it would give pause for thought and the 5C would be an extremely attractive option, but thats not what Apple wants since it would kiss goodbye to a massive chunk of profits.
Switch now to emerging economies where import taxes can make expensive items even more unaffordable (think Brazil), the 5S has no place their. This consumer that wants the best no matter the cost doesn't really exist since the middle class is so much smaller, and value for money is king. The 5C allows Apple to be remotely competitive here, especially when you hold a 5C and an S4 in your hands and just feel the difference. So - the 5C has a purpose in developing economies.
Apple can either a) not sell it in developed countries, to many complaints from media, consumers and Android fanboys who say this is one of the reasons Apple sucks - forcing richer countries to buy the more expensive phone or b) sell it, but only at a slight discount, such that it might just convince a few people who otherwise wouldn't go Apple to do so, but not cheap enough to cannibalise the 5S.