Does anyone have statistics that apples policy is anti competitive or drives planned failure. This isn’t an impressive challenge - the vast majority of the issues on hand are theoretical and no one has hard data or the question would be easy.
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France Investigating Apple Over Alleged 'Planned Obsolescence' Arising From Serialized Repair Parts
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How would that work?
The original request asks for data that should be available.
Your request asks for suppositional/predictive data that does not exist.
Apple is just a giant gaping ******: these are deliberate obsticles put in place to be as repair-hostile as possible. You never "own" an Apple device, and you have zero choice over it's functionality, and it's preferrable that you throw it away ASAP when a newer device is released.
The only way this will ever stop is trough legal action and more importantly - laws. The more EU attacks Apple the better for all consumer.
Didn't read the comments much but I already assume some Apple fanboys or AAPL stock holders will have 10+ semi-religious passive-agresssive comments against all this but luckely the capitalist extremist reserve called "U S of A" is fortunately not the entire western civilized world.
The only way this will ever stop is trough legal action and more importantly - laws. The more EU attacks Apple the better for all consumer.
Didn't read the comments much but I already assume some Apple fanboys or AAPL stock holders will have 10+ semi-religious passive-agresssive comments against all this but luckely the capitalist extremist reserve called "U S of A" is fortunately not the entire western civilized world.
Just about every car made has the VIN on the body, a serial number for the engine and a serial mnumber for the transmission for tracking purposes. If you bring your car in for service with a failed transmission and the SN of the one the factory installed is not the one the car then the car company doesn't cover that because it's a 3rd party part.
Its' the same for Apple's products (and it's not just iPhone) where many of the internal components are serialized. Both to detect non-Apple authorized repairs, but also to track failures. When a large percentage of parts from a particular manufacturing run start to fail they can go investigate the the production process to isolate where/when/why the failures are happening.
You _can_ spin this into being something nefarious but it really isn't.
To think so is, then, also to believe that US printed currency has planned obsolescence because it all has serial numbers on it.
Its' the same for Apple's products (and it's not just iPhone) where many of the internal components are serialized. Both to detect non-Apple authorized repairs, but also to track failures. When a large percentage of parts from a particular manufacturing run start to fail they can go investigate the the production process to isolate where/when/why the failures are happening.
You _can_ spin this into being something nefarious but it really isn't.
To think so is, then, also to believe that US printed currency has planned obsolescence because it all has serial numbers on it.
No matter what Apple does there will always be breathless whines-n-moans. It helps people feel better; like they're standing up to the Man.
I mean that still happens. They just have to try and get the user to unlock the phone before creating more e-Waste. It's not like you're getting the phone back either way.
Why should Apple be compelled to issue monetary credit for sketchy unverified parts that were not even from them?
Nobody is forced to buy Apple products. There are alternative products.
It is really that simple.
It is best to use only Apple-certified parts including cables. I use Anker power adapters, but otherwise it is safest to remain with Apple products or those certified by Apple. I'm not certain why people are objecting to entering in the serial number of their unit in order to get replacement parts.
It is really that simple.
It is best to use only Apple-certified parts including cables. I use Anker power adapters, but otherwise it is safest to remain with Apple products or those certified by Apple. I'm not certain why people are objecting to entering in the serial number of their unit in order to get replacement parts.
I din’t think it is a concern. It is being used (theft prevention) as an argument on why Apple need to serialize and lock down repairs.
Display -> loss of auto-brightness, True Tone, and Face ID
Face ID is security issue, may be Apple wants to make sure that face ID data is secure.
others i agree that should not happen.
Yup, totally agree, my questions were meant to be rhetorical. The idea that serialising parts and locking down repair options is keeping users safe is fear-mongering and corporate boot-licking.
It doesn't prevent theft, only helps solves cases of theft.
The length of their support isn't the issue here, it's the manner in which that support is offered.
Hard-to-repair designs, hard-to-source parts, proprietary or hard-to-get tools, and costly, restrictive authorisation for 3rd party repair shops. Apple shouldn't need to ship out several kilograms of tools to change a phone battery, nor should users be stuck using Apple's weird outsourced repair program site just to get access to those tools and parts.
Instead of providing sources for their viewpoints (like a good faith engagement) they will continuously demand you provide yours even though it’s already proven in various markets and followed through with practices from VINs to serial numbers. Seems political for some on here 😂
More legal trouble for Apple. But don’t know how this can be called planned obsolescence.
Ohh the good Old serial number parts again.
I think some who think serialised parts can prevent theft misses the Forest for the tree.
Theft will always exist, no matter what. Reusing parts is just one way to salvage what they have stolen. If a component is serialised, they will just scrap it. Sure, earns less, but better than nothing, and apple cannot possibly develop technologies to make even scraping parts worthless.
By serialising parts, not only customers are hurt when their Phone is damaged (Forced to endure extravagant costs demanded by apple, often very Close or exceed the amount of buying a new one, if apple even permit the repair at all, for example, performing data recovery), but also those with skills and ability are hurt as well, because they can’t prolong their device lifespan easily.
Let’s not even start to mention the silly idea of “long term software support = long term support”.
Corporate brainwash is rampant and no one bother to take a look at that.
oh umm, I think those people in China already have developed their own tools to defeat serialising parts (some of them) to prevent theft. In that case, those third party screens/batteries/cameras etc can work just as well as “first party” ones, maybe last just as long, and the repair cost would be a fraction of what apple is asking, and customer can get a working phone again faster.
and how about stealing another iPhone’s serial number to get around the activation lock, plus swapping out certain chips? It was possible before.
I think some who think serialised parts can prevent theft misses the Forest for the tree.
Theft will always exist, no matter what. Reusing parts is just one way to salvage what they have stolen. If a component is serialised, they will just scrap it. Sure, earns less, but better than nothing, and apple cannot possibly develop technologies to make even scraping parts worthless.
By serialising parts, not only customers are hurt when their Phone is damaged (Forced to endure extravagant costs demanded by apple, often very Close or exceed the amount of buying a new one, if apple even permit the repair at all, for example, performing data recovery), but also those with skills and ability are hurt as well, because they can’t prolong their device lifespan easily.
Let’s not even start to mention the silly idea of “long term software support = long term support”.
Corporate brainwash is rampant and no one bother to take a look at that.
oh umm, I think those people in China already have developed their own tools to defeat serialising parts (some of them) to prevent theft. In that case, those third party screens/batteries/cameras etc can work just as well as “first party” ones, maybe last just as long, and the repair cost would be a fraction of what apple is asking, and customer can get a working phone again faster.
and how about stealing another iPhone’s serial number to get around the activation lock, plus swapping out certain chips? It was possible before.
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I don't see a problem with Apple tracking the serial number of all parts. Keeps stolen devices from being parted out.