Free e-mail addresses for Mail Client?

Atlasland

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I'm looking for a site that provides free e-mail addresses, that I can use with an e-mail client (i.e. Entourage).

And if not free, then something cheap.

I need 2 or 3 email addresses.

I wouldn't mind paying $14.99 (Hotmail's fee), but that's only for 1 address.

Also, does gmail work with a mail client?

Thanks.
 

mkrishnan

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GMail is slightly quirky with POP3, but I would still also say it is the best option.

Otherwise, doesn't your ISP give you multiple e-mail addresses if you want them? Most DSL and Cable suppliers do/will.
 

MacRy

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Another vote here for gmail. Works fine in Mail as POP3. Sometimes pops up and asks for your password but only rarely.
 

Atlasland

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Thanks for the help guys. I'm on my way to hooking myself up with a gmail account.

mkrishnan said:
Otherwise, doesn't your ISP give you multiple e-mail addresses if you want them? Most DSL and Cable suppliers do/will.
Yes, but I don't want to be "tied" to my cable provider. Mainly because I'm probably going to cancel my contract with them, cos they're not good.
 

Zachariah

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It's slightly technical and not free -- but it's the best email solution I know of:

1. get a domain name (Dotster or GoDaddy are cheap/popular/reputable)
2. get web hosting (I'm sure there's a thread on this)
3. either use the web hosting email accounts -- or, I highly recommend SpamCop.net for $30/yr (includes lots of features and you can report spam you get directly to the originating ISP)
4. point the email alias(es)/forwarder(s) from your domain to your hosting account (or SpamCop.net account)
5. configure your email client to use the POP or IMAP servers (from hosting account or SpamCop.net), and to use either your ISP's SMTP server (or from hosting account or SpamCop.net)

If you don't care about spam reporting and you happen to want a really nice webmail client, then do the domain thing and tie it to a gmail account (it's actually not too difficult).
 

eenu

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Rapmastac1 said:
Ok, so I have downloaded HTTPMail and I still can't get support for HotMail, or as my account @msn.com . Does anyone know of anyway to support this, I'm on a Macbook.
You can't use POP features of hotmail/msn mail until you pay AFAIK
 

Rapmastac1

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eenu said:
You can't use POP features of hotmail/msn mail until you pay AFAIK
Until I pay what? I have that from my ISP, as in it comes with my MSN Premium with my high speed internet. How do I set this up? I'm setting it up for rapmastac1@msn.com . Will this not work do I have, HAVE to use the @hotmail.com kind? Aren't they the same, this is so much trouble. I have downloaded the latest universal, again, and when I luanch it, nothing happens, I see the file launch, and a little extraction pops up for like half a seoncd, and nothing happens. It sucks.
 

Atlasland

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Okay, well I got a gmail account. And I set it up to work with Entourage 2004. And it works.

However, I have a slight problem.

I already have a Hotmail account and my University (IMAP) account synced to Entourage. And Entourage has created a separate folder for each.

However, when it comes to my new gmail account, it just seems to deliver messages to my general Inbox. By "general Inbox" I mean the Inbox subfolder of "Folders on My Computer".

However I want a separate folder, a la my Hotmail and University accounts...




Any help? Or can I not do that with a POP account. Forgive my noobyness.
 

mkrishnan

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Sorry...I'm out of my league with that aspect of Entourage. I use Mail.app ... in Mail.app, each account appears as a sub-item under a single umbrella inbox, a single umbrella Drafts, Sent, etc. But each sub-item is separate. So I have five accounts (one IMAP and one POP from school, GMail via POP, Yahoo using MacFreePOPs, and Hotmail using httpmail), and each one is partitioned separately in my Inbox, Drafts, Sent, Trash, and Junk, and then pooled (by my choice) in my saved mail folders. Which is exactly what I want.

I'm not sure why you're not getting that in Entourage though. I think it might be that when you add an Exchange or IMAP account to Entourage, it acts as if it is just mirroring the server mailbox for you, but when you add a POP mailbox, since all POP is inherently offline, it just imports them.
 

Atlasland

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Ok, so I'm trying to see if I can use Apple's Mail instead of Entourage. But I'm running into more problems. Another question...

What is the incoming and outgoing mail server I need to use to set up a Hotmail account with Apple Mail?

My hotmail account is a free account, but it is old enough (6 years old) that I am allowed to use it with Entourage.


And I'm still in need of answers to my previous question (Post no. 13).

Cheers
 

mkrishnan

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No, well, not in any officially supported way, but MacFreePOPs (linked above) can provide free access to Yahoo in either Mail.app or Entourage or anything else that can read a POP account.
 

Atlasland

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mkrishnan said:
...but MacFreePOPs (linked above) can provide free access to Yahoo in either Mail.app or Entourage or anything else that can read a POP account.
How, exactly? What settings do you need? In particular, what do you use as the SMTP server?

I tried it with a Hotmail account, but couldn't get it to work. I should point though out that I am a bit of a noob at this.
 

mkrishnan

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Atlasland said:
How, exactly? What settings do you need? In particular, what do you use as the SMTP server?

I tried it with a Hotmail account, but couldn't get it to work. I should point though out that I am a bit of a noob at this.
It is not the most n00b friendly thing in the world, and there have been issues recently because Yahoo and Hotmail both unveiled substantially new interfaces in the past month or two. But let me give you a try here....

The idea is that FreePOPs acts as an arbitrage for INCOMING mail only. It doesn't do anything for outgoing mail. It logs into the website, reads the web-based e-mail, decodes the message out of it, and hands the message back to your mail program.

So in terms of settings, you run FreePOPs, and then *it* becomes your incoming server. When you use MacFreePOPs, when it is first run, it gives you an IP address and port to put in as your POP server. The IP address is usually 127.0.0.1. If you do not recognize that, it's the "loopback" address -- it refers to your own computer (i.e. when I ping 127.0.0.1 from my computer, it loops back to my computer. When you do it from yours, it loops back to yours).

You give your username on that POP server as your full e-mail address from the service in question (e.g. xxx@yahoo.com) and your password as your actual password.

When you try to get mail from your mail program, then your mail program hits the loopback address and contacts the FreePOPs daemon running on your computer. It in turn contacts the website, logs in, and gets your mail. It's not *perfect* -- it sometimes has connection failures and you have to re-load it.

But I do have it working for both Hotmail (a pretty old account out of Hotmail Japan, but I have the latest interface when I log in on the web) and Yahoo (also a pretty old account). I'm using the latest "ahead of trunk" beta .lua files from freepops.org for both Yahoo and Hotmail. This isn't persistently an issue, but when the services are in them midst of changing their architecture, the lua files have to change too.

Anyway, that's INCOMING mail. FreePOPs does NOT do outgoing mail. The typical scenario is that you receive internet service from a home ISP (cable or DSL, etc) or a school. In most situations, these sites give you an smtp address (smtp.east.cox.net for Cox home cable internet, for instance, in this part of the US). Typically, this SMTP server will accept your outgoing mail, when you are inside the network, from ANY e-mail address. For instance, I can send @yahoo.com, @gmail.com, @ufl.edu, etc, etc, all from my Cox SMTP server when I am at home. In fact, I don't know about where you live, but this is increasingly becoming not just possible but NECESSARY.

Where I live, the ONLY SMTP I am able to access from home is the one for Cox. I know BellSouth DSL is this way too, and more and more other DSLs. And actually, also, at school, I can only send e-mails out via the schools' SMTP servers. Supposedly this is an anti-spam effort, but that's neither here nor there.

So anyway, in the typical scenario, you already have an SMTP and you don't need one from Yahoo or Hotmail. Does that make sense? You should contact your ISP to find out what their SMTP is.

It's also worth mentioning that HTTPMail also does not do outgoing mail, AFAIK. So that's a wash. I will say that HTTPMail is an easier solution if you just want Hotmail, though.

Longwinded...does it help? :eek:
 

Atlasland

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Firstly mkrishnan, thanks for taking the time to write such a long reply.

Yes, it certainly did help. I think that I now have a much better understanding of what's going on.

I didn't realise FreeMailPOPs couldn't handle outgoing mail, and so I was trying to screw about with those settings.

I also didn't realise that I could use my ISP's SMTP server for outgoing mail for any e-mail address.

Anyway, I'll go to work with this information, and hopefully I'll get everything working soon.


Thanks again.