If only I could give multiple positives to that one. Talk about hitting the nail on the head...
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If only I could give multiple positives to that one. Talk about hitting the nail on the head...
Wow....... Could you be MORE of anapologist??
There is absolutely NO excuse for the lack of iCloud support in Snow Leopard, while Windows 7 users get to enjoy it. Apple are holding out, hoping that Snow Leopard users will just bite the bullet and upgrade in order to get iCloud. Well guess what? There are workarounds for that.
Apple literally giving away copies of Snow Leopard in order to entice older Leopard users to upgrade to Lion reeks of desperation
Some people don't want to install Lion onto their machines because of serious problems Lion causes with Logic Pro and associated 3rd party plugins.
Some people just don't want iOS on their computer: they have an iPad or iPhone/Touch for that.
With Apple literally giving away copies of Snow Leopard in order to entice older Leopard users to upgrade to Lion shows that many, many people are just not interested in Lion and feel it is a couple steps backwards for Apple.
I'll happily second the sentiment of not necessarily wanting to run Lion on a Mac and wishing for iCloud support in Snow Leopard. Personally, I think I'm going to skip Lion, not because I hate it, but because I don't wish to go through the hassle of upgrading my machine and buying the license when I'm going to be selling it and buying a new MacBook Pro later this year, by which time Mountain Lion will probably be in tow, and for no additional charge might I add. On top of that, I respect your use of your Mac in a production environment that Lion would currently compromise.
However, comments to the effect of "Some people just don't want iOS on their computer: they have an iPad or iPhone/Touch for that." I cannot. Lion isn't iOS. Lion has a ton of admittedly silly/useless iOS features that are needless. Luckily all of them can be either turned off or ignored. Otherwise, it's very much Mac OS X as it has always been; albeit with the every-two-versions facelift.
Reread what I said; I never made any claim that you could upgrade from Leopard directly to Lion; only that if one were to make a bootable Lion Install DVD/USB-drive, one would be afforded exactly the same clean-installation options that are afforded to a Windows XP user going to Windows 7 on the same machine.
Those later systems would have come with a 10.6.x disc already, so Apple would have no need to go to the expense of sending out a later DVD for free for those users.
That said, for those of us still supporting 10.6 systems, a 10.6.8 full installer sure would be nice.
Mine turned up 2 days after ordering. Pity I already have iCloud and Lion. Disk can go into my collection.
How in the hell are they doing the right thing? People stayed with Leopard for reasons only known to them. Although the intent, this is not going to get people upgrading to Lion. Most people will just use this as a freebee. Something that lots of people paid for.
If Apple were going to do the right thing they should refund all of us that paid for the SL release. It wasn't a lot, but that is not the point.
Does this mean those that don't upgrade to ML will receive it for free when the next botched OS is released?
I would hardly call my post a "freak out".
Furthermore, these "Lion-specific API's" you ponder in your post....... I guess they must be Lion, Vista, and Windows 7 -specific then, huh?
I love how the software license agreement document is the largest thing in the package! Dwarfing he size of the DVD in it's paper sleeve. But then again the agreement is in 18 languages and a hefty 70+ pages. Either way I think this is kinda funny, but I guess it saves them from reprinting 18 different manuals.
re: apologist?
I'm not trying to make excuses for Apple, but the bottom line is, it's THEIR operating system to implement as they wish.
Lack of iCloud support in Snow Leopard? Yeah, it's pretty annoying if you're unable to use it and meanwhile, your friends running the competition's OS (Win 7) are able to use it. But I guess Apple's sending you a message there? If you want iCloud so badly, either upgrade OS X or just switch to Windows.....
In my own situation, I kept my 2006 Mac Pro on Snow Leopard because it's my machine I do all of my music and media playing on. Like you, I felt like Lion wasn't a good upgrade for it, because so many of the music software firms are relatively small outfits that take AGES to upgrade their applications. I still need Rosetta to run some of the stuff that was never rewritten to get rid of the PPC requirement. But honestly? I can live with that one lacking iCloud connectivity. It's a minor inconvenience that iCal isn't going to show me my latest calendar entries from my other machines and so forth..... Not a "deal breaker".
I'm not trying to make excuses for Apple, but the bottom line is, it's THEIR operating system to implement as they wish.
Lack of iCloud support in Snow Leopard? Yeah, it's pretty annoying if you're unable to use it and meanwhile, your friends running the competition's OS (Win 7) are able to use it. But I guess Apple's sending you a message there? If you want iCloud so badly, either upgrade OS X or just switch to Windows.....
In my own situation, I kept my 2006 Mac Pro on Snow Leopard because it's my machine I do all of my music and media playing on. Like you, I felt like Lion wasn't a good upgrade for it, because so many of the music software firms are relatively small outfits that take AGES to upgrade their applications. I still need Rosetta to run some of the stuff that was never rewritten to get rid of the PPC requirement. But honestly? I can live with that one lacking iCloud connectivity. It's a minor inconvenience that iCal isn't going to show me my latest calendar entries from my other machines and so forth..... Not a "deal breaker".
Wow....... Could you be MORE of an
Apple literally giving away copies of Snow Leopard in order to entice older Leopard users to upgrade to Lion reeks of desperation
Some people don't want to install Lion onto their machines because of serious problems Lion causes with Logic Pro and associated 3rd party plugins.
Some people just don't want iOS on their computer: they have an iPad or iPhone/Touch for that.
With Apple literally giving away copies of Snow Leopard in order to entice older Leopard users to upgrade to Lion shows that many, many people are just not interested in Lion and feel it is a couple steps backwards for Apple.
I love how the software license agreement document is the largest thing in the package! Dwarfing he size of the DVD in it's paper sleeve. But then again the agreement is in 18 languages and a hefty 70+ pages. Either way I think this is kinda funny, but I guess it saves them from reprinting 18 different manuals.
I see Apple doing all of these DVD to MobileMe customers. They are sending out an older OS. Why not put Lion on a DVD and be done with it. Apple is wasting time and money sending out SL when the soution is to send Lion. Even the SL they send out is an older version and not the up to date one needed.
Just did the Gmail thing and dropbox recently do these 2 fulfil your needs? Things might not be so easy in the future and i will be sad to give up -------.mac but i will not be going on safari with the lions
for now it does... I miss not syncing preferences and stuff between my macs, but that was problematic at times anyways. I am sure there are other solutions out there for that sort of thing, but I haven't bothered to try any of them yet.
I haven't given up my .mac address, I just have google check it for me and then I see it in my google inbox. I don't subscribe to the spam folder on my google account through imap, and therefore I don't really get any spam either that way. Apple's email spam filtering is practically non-existant, and it was so annoying getting push messages and notifications that were spam all the time.
snow leopard upgrade for mobileme users
Hi - how did you manage that? MobileMe's "Move to iCloud" is silent about anything free...
I'm also in the UK & any words of wisdom would be appreciated. Thanks in advance
Hi - how did you manage that? MobileMe's "Move to iCloud" is silent about anything free...
I'm also in the UK & any words of wisdom would be appreciated. Thanks in advance
This is great news for consumers desperate to take advantage of all the amazing new technologies in Mac OS X Lion.
OR those like me, that just wanted a Snow Leopard install CD with a new version of Snow Leopard. =)
Oh stop. Really. Of course Apple has their reasons, but they conflict with my reasons for wishing to continue using my legacy hardware and software. Especially when it's not actually all that old. I paid for it and as long as my hardware continues to function, so should my software. And both should be supported for a reasonable period of time.
As for making it impossible to use perfectly functional serial peripherals, it was environmentally criminal as well as being a major middle finger to the many Mac users who had to go buy new electronics when the old ones would have done as well. Way to run roughshod over your customer base, Apple! We aren't all interested in the whiz bang newest piece of crap. Some of us just want to get the job done, and we have the ability to do it with older but functional equipment. Due to their uncaring attitude, I'm less interested in Apple's bottom line than they appear to be in mine.
Microsoft charge a lot more per upgrade (even for an "upgrade only" version), and if you want to go from XP to 7, you still need to go via Vista if you want to keep your files without reinstalling.