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Jeze

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lI am awaiting the arrival of a 27" iMac. Always had a PC but decided to go with an iMac now. It should be delivered today but... I am disconcerted to find that it was shipped from CHINA. Had I realized it would come from China I might have re-thought my decision to purchase...
 

Madhatter32

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I'd prefer my computers to be made in Texas, Mexico, India, and Indonesia in that order. This list is not exclusive but, I agree, China is not on that preferred list.
 
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AndyMacAndMic

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lI am awaiting the arrival of a 27" iMac. Always had a PC but decided to go with an iMac now. It should be delivered today but... I am disconcerted to find that it was shipped from CHINA. Had I realized it would come from China I might have re-thought my decision to purchase...

Maybe you are unfamiliar with this but 90% of the consumer electronics (and other products) are produced, manufactured or assembled in China these days. That includes most products from American companies too (including Apple). If you don't want to buy anything made in China, you have to re-think everything you order long and hard..... (maybe you have to sell/re-think 90% of the stuff you have at home also).

Frankly I am amazed that you are not aware of this. I thought this was common knowledge. The parts of the PC's you had before your iMac are probably mostly manufactured or assembled in China also.
 
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velocityg4

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It's actually a bit more complicated.

-Much of the PCB assembly is likely occurring in China.
-The semi conductors (chips) are going to be a mix. Most are likely coming from outside of China. As there are more fab's outside China than inside China. Coming mostly from Japan, USA, Singapore, Taiwan and the EU combined.
-Not sure about capacitors. A lot of companies were spooked by unreliable Chinese caps and switched to Japanese. But I've never looked that up for the Mac's.
- Raw materials come from all over
- Fuels for the factories electricity come from all over
- As far as I know the LCD is made by LG. Their OLED and LCD fabrication plants are in South Korea.
- I'd expect case components come from all over too.
 

mmomega

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Yep, shipped iMacs for me, have been coming from somewhere in China for the better part of the last decade that I can remember ordering them.
You can swap and get a Texas born Mac Pro or a non-custom iMac and pick up at a local store so it can appear to come local or have a custom machine delivered to the local store and wait for an email or call from them that it has come in.

The whole out-of-sight-out-of-mind thing is a thing for some. So if you don't pay attention to where something comes from, then HEY, it didn't come from there.
 
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thp48

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lI am awaiting the arrival of a 27" iMac. Always had a PC but decided to go with an iMac now. It should be delivered today but... I am disconcerted to find that it was shipped from CHINA. Had I realized it would come from China I might have re-thought my decision to purchase...
With the current tensions between China and the USA, brought to the forefront by the virus and the many actuations of Chinia's hacking and stealing many secrets across a wide spectrum of industries over the years.
Why would we ignore the fact that all of the technologies made in China might not have something in them that Apple is unaware of, that could compromise the owner in a number of ways.
I love all things MAC, I have a @me.com, @iCloud.com and @mac.com email addresses. I would love to buy a new one. I just have to think about it in a different way.
Is there anything out there to ease my concerns? Blind trust, is not one of my personality traits.
 

CWallace

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Apple does assemble some iMacs in the United States and in Ireland, but most of the components used in them come from China.

I have had iMacs assembled in China and the US and they've been equally reliable, so...
 
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Shivetya

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BTO are done in US and Ireland.

however why anyone expects Apple to care about the rights of workers outside of the US is beyond me
 
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Cayenne1

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The Scorpion and the Frog
A scorpion, which cannot swim, asks a frog to carry it across a river on the frog's back. The frog hesitates, afraid of being stung by the scorpion, but the scorpion argues that if it did that, they would both drown. The frog considers this argument sensible and agrees to transport the scorpion. Midway across the river, the scorpion stings the frog anyway, dooming them both. The dying frog asks the scorpion why it stung despite knowing the consequence, to which the scorpion replies: "I couldn't help it. It's in my nature."

If Apple doesn't migrate manufacturing out of China, they are fools.
 

chill991

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OP, great first post....

My US built pickup comes with rims made in china (amoungst other parts).
 

filmgirl

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I’m having flashbacks to a thread from 2009 when a bunch of us with BTO 27” iMacs (the first one!) were actively tracking the plane from China to bring us our expensive machines. Good times.

Almost everything you own that has a circuitboard is made at least in part in China. Ironically, Apple was one of the first computer companies to really game/own/leverage the supply chain and manufacturing system in China. Apple built it up and everyone else copied.
 

torifile

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I’m having flashbacks to a thread from 2009 when a bunch of us with BTO 27” iMacs (the first one!) were actively tracking the plane from China to bring us our expensive machines. Good times.

Almost everything you own that has a circuitboard is made at least in part in China. Ironically, Apple was one of the first computer companies to really game/own/leverage the supply chain and manufacturing system in China. Apple built it up and everyone else copied.
Watching our early gen iPhones winging their over to us from China was a favorite pastime back in the day.

That said, some of the posts in this thread reek of xenophobia. It’s not a good look for tech lovers.
 

ravinder08

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lI am awaiting the arrival of a 27" iMac. Always had a PC but decided to go with an iMac now. It should be delivered today but... I am disconcerted to find that it was shipped from CHINA. Had I realized it would come from China I might have re-thought my decision to purchase...
Most Apple products these days are made in China. Even iPhones. It’s about quality control, if there is good quality control there won’t be an issue.
 

jazz1

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Wait until people figure out where their car parts come from even from American car companies! I do think we should be looking for alternatives, but I find it hard to believe that there will be huge shifts to American made products.
 
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