From Ventura to Monterey?

[iphonefreak450]

I’m currently running Ventura 13.2 and I am considering to going back to Monterey. There are just too many bugs in Ventura sadly so.

Can I do this by downloading and installing Monterey from the App Store and just letting the macOS Monterey to be installed.

All my data is backed up on my USB drive.

Will this cause issues or do I need to first erase Ventura?

 

[Mr_Brightside_@]

You need to erase the drive and clean install it, yeah

 

[iphonefreak450]

I’m on the M1 MacBook Pro.

After erasing the drive, wont that also wipe the macOS installer file downloaded from the App Store?

Please explain the process, thanks.

 

[Mr_Brightside_@]

You will need to create a bootable USB installer.
https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/mac-help/mchl82829c17/mac follow this and change to reduced so you can boot off it
https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT201372 follow this to make the USB
you won’t be able to run the installer from Applications, you will get an error that it’s an older OS.

 

[MBAir2010]

If you made a time machine backup of Monterey you can restart and install that from "disc utility"
or reset your MacBook to factory settings or any Mac.

I hope this helped.

BTW I prefer Monterey over Ventura, but will keep Ventura on the MBA_m1 since in not experiencing any bugs.

 

[iphonefreak450]

I checked the App Store as well and I guess Apple decided to remove Monterey from there.

Maybe Its just worth keeping Ventura anyways as this might be time consuming and I do not want to mess things up even more.

The main thing here, is that I learned my lesson and just wait awhile whenever a new major upgrade is released.
Not just me, but to anyone else out here who may be reading this. DO NOT UPGRADE and wait until all the bugs are fixed. That is my suggestion.

Thanks.

 

[fisherking]

I checked the App Store as well and I guess Apple decided to remove Monterey from there.

Maybe Its just worth keeping Ventura anyways as this might be time consuming and I do not want to mess things up even more.

The main thing here, is that I learned my lesson and just wait awhile whenever a new major upgrade is released.
Not just me, but to anyone else out here who may be reading this. DO NOT UPGRADE and wait until all the bugs are fixed. That is my suggestion.

Thanks.

what your experience is does not speak for everyone; many of us are pretty happy on ventura. and there will be (as with every OS before it), bug fixes coming in future updates.

'all bugs' are never resolved, it's a constant process...

 

[mikelets456]

I’m currently running Ventura 13.2 and I am considering to going back to Monterey. There are just too many bugs in Ventura sadly so.

Can I do this by downloading and installing Monterey from the App Store and just letting the macOS Monterey to be installed.

All my data is backed up on my USB drive.

Will this cause issues or do I need to first erase Ventura?

You can download Monterey from here and create a bootable disk.

macOS 12 Monterey Full Installer Database. Download Directly from Apple!

Download macOS Monterey full installer with one click straight from Apple! Every version of Monterey Beta & Final available all in one place!!

mrmacintosh.com

BTW, what's your set up? I have a 2015 MBP with OCLP and Ventura 13.2 with little to no problems.

 

[AlienSexGod]

You can download Monterey from here and create a bootable disk.

macOS 12 Monterey Full Installer Database. Download Directly from Apple!

Download macOS Monterey full installer with one click straight from Apple! Every version of Monterey Beta & Final available all in one place!!

mrmacintosh.com

BTW, what's your set up? I have a 2015 MBP with OCLP and Ventura 13.2 with little to no problems.

I have MBP 16" i9 64Gb ram 8Tb SSD and Ventura is horrible! It's slower and has kernel panics and perma freezes requiring a reboot at least once a day.

Since I had to start again I am thinking of going back as far as Catalina since I don't need new features I just need speed and stability. I can't remember which was the fastest in the finder and search but from memory everything go slower a bit every new OS. I have always used ONyx and cleanmymac prior to a macOS upgrade and after.

 

[mikelets456]

I have MBP 16" i9 64Gb ram 8Tb SSD and Ventura is horrible! It's slower and has kernel panics and perma freezes requiring a reboot at least once a day.

Since I had to start again I am thinking of going back as far as Catalina since I don't need new features I just need speed and stability. I can't remember which was the fastest in the finder and search but from memory everything go slower a bit every new OS. I have always used ONyx and cleanmymac prior to a macOS upgrade and after.

I'm more of a "hardware guy" but here's a link that could help. My first question was your 8 TB SSD and possible errors. Did you used an adapter? Is there software (app) that is causing Ventura to act up? However, I'm leaning toward a hardware problem---like I said my 2015 and 2009 work really well on Ventura (I returned my 2009 back to Moneterry just because i was bored---LOL)

Here's a few links that might help:

Ventura Continues Kernel panics after For… - Apple Community

discussions.apple.com

MacBook Pro 16'' i9 kernel panics - Apple Community

discussions.apple.com

 

[MBAir2010]

I have MBP 16" i9 64Gb ram 8Tb SSD and Ventura is horrible! It's slower and has kernel panics and perma freezes requiring a reboot at least once a day.

Since I had to start again I am thinking of going back as far as Catalina since I don't need new features I just need speed and stability. I can't remember which was the fastest in the finder and search but from memory everything go slower a bit every new OS. I have always used ONyx and cleanmymac prior to a macOS upgrade and after.

can you use OCLP on your macbook pro?
my macbook pro from 2012 runs great with Monterey using this process.
I just don't know what year your MBPro is from.

 

[Mr_Brightside_@]

I checked the App Store as well and I guess Apple decided to remove Monterey from there.

Maybe Its just worth keeping Ventura anyways as this might be time consuming and I do not want to mess things up even more.

The main thing here, is that I learned my lesson and just wait awhile whenever a new major upgrade is released.
Not just me, but to anyone else out here who may be reading this. DO NOT UPGRADE and wait until all the bugs are fixed. That is my suggestion.

Thanks.

https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/macos-monterey/id1576738294?mt=12 it is not removed, just hidden