Front-Page Quality Control

Discussion in 'Site and Forum Feedback' started by skoker, Sep 27, 2006.

  1. skoker macrumors 68000


    Aug 6, 2005
    First off, I'd just like to say that this is *not a rant*, just a "helpful observation".

    I've noticed over the past week or so that every article that comes out on the MR front page seems to have a few "tipoes" in it. For example:

    ...and then there is some inconsistencies with the spelling of some words:


    Those are just two of the things that I found really quick, and I know there are more out there. I know they are only small things, but when they are often the first thing people see when they come to MacRumors they are important.
  2. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

    Jul 4, 2004
    I've also noticed this as well, also in opening posts on News and Article discussion threads. Doesn't look good and it wouldn't hurt to run things through a spell-check or a second subbing now and then.

    I realise resources are scarce though so all praise for those involved. Personally, I feel the standard and frequency of interesting stories and links has improved over the past few months, so all hats off to the editors. :)
  3. Grimace macrumors 68040


    Feb 17, 2003
    with Hamburglar.
    I would also like to second one major grammatical point that I see all over the place (and it drives me nuts :rolleyes: ) Examples:

    "I heard Apple are going to come out with something new"
    "Apple have pulled the image off of the server"

    Apple is one (singular) company!

    "Apple is going come out with something new".
    "Apple has pulled the image off of the server"

    Ugh, rant over. :p
  4. p0intblank macrumors 68030

    Sep 20, 2005
    New Jersey
    Actually I think that can go both ways... but I'm not totally sure. I prefer to use the singular term, like Apple is a computer company.
  5. iMeowbot macrumors G3


    Aug 30, 2003

    In particular, "Apple is preparing for the introduction of their new model" is bad grammar. The same sentence with "Apple are preparing" (or "its new model") would be better.
  6. skoker thread starter macrumors 68000


    Aug 6, 2005
    To add to the subject, I got this email from equinox, usa this morning:

    Worst part is that word was linked in blue so it really stood out. Probably 100,000 people got that email :rolleyes:
  7. Chundles macrumors G4


    Jul 4, 2005
    Both are actually acceptable, the "Apple is" being more prevalent in the US where the company is seen as a singular and the "Apple are" being more prevalent in Commonwealth nations where Apple is seen as a company made of a collective of people.

    As an Aussie, I tend to use the latter.
  8. andiwm2003 macrumors 601


    Mar 29, 2004
    Boston, MA

    outside the US using the plural seems to be o.k.. in the US the singular is o.k.. what ticks me off is that some people from US seem to think that on an international website only the US version is acceptable. give us a break. [/rant]
  9. bousozoku Moderator emeritus

    Jun 25, 2002
    Gone but not forgotten.
    It's a shame you don't know proper English, sticking with that American stuff. :p Everywhere but the U.S.A., it's proper to refer to a company as the group of people it is.
  10. spicyapple macrumors 68000


    Jul 20, 2006
    As a bona-fide Canadian, the plural form to denote a company (Apple are cool) is awkward. :)
  11. Eric5h5 macrumors 68020

    Dec 9, 2004
    Get used to it. :) When I first encountered the plural form of referring to companies (in an imported UK computer mag), I thought it was weird and awkward. But now I actually prefer it and think it makes more sense (companies aren't singular entities; they are made up of people), and usually write it that way. (But that superfluous "u" in words like color and honor is just silly, sorry. ;) )

    And yeah...spellcheck please. Obviously it won't catch everything, but we're using OS X here (or at least I hope we are) which makes it stupidly quick and easy.

  12. Doctor Q Administrator

    Doctor Q

    Staff Member

    Sep 19, 2002
    Los Angeles
    Our stories are written and posted as promptly as we can. We try not to spend much time in the "editing" phase, and often apply small changes after the fact. Sure, we could do better, but we're dealing with humans (at least until I finish my A.I. robot-editor program - heh heh).

    When more than one of our MacRumors editors are around, we sometimes pass stories around before posting them, but most often we have to go with an early draft first to keep up with Apple's fast-paced world, and then do touch-up work afterwards. We judge the tradeoff for each story.

    For MacRumorsLive coverage of special events, we apply minimal editing, although we did fix a number of typos recently, in realtime, in information we were receiving during those events.

    You can help us best by (1) using the Report Bad Post [​IMG] system to let us know of errors you spot and (2) not making posts in the thread about the same corrections, because that makes more cleanup work for the moderators after we apply the story corrections.

    As far as the to-may-to/to-mah-to issues go (phrasing that each person might use differently), we leave those choices up to each individual editor.
  13. skoker thread starter macrumors 68000


    Aug 6, 2005
    One quick point: Is it not safe to assume that most submissions are posted from Mac OS X-based computers? Doesn't auto-spell check pick those 'embarrassing typos' up in your browser?

    (If you're posting from PC's at work, I salute you. Stick it to the man!)
  14. MacNut macrumors Core


    Jan 4, 2002
    Is it really that big a deal. I would rather fast info then being delayed 5 minutes for proofreading. This isn't the New York Times.
  15. skoker thread starter macrumors 68000


    Aug 6, 2005
  16. longofest Editor emeritus


    Jul 10, 2003
    Falls Church, VA
    Hey guys-

    Just saw the thread. I personally appologize for my hand in some of the typos that occured last week. I know I submitted one story that people claimed had 4 (although only 2 words) alone, which is deinititely over the top either way.

    As Q said, we do try to balance expediency and quality. When we take too long to edit an article, we end up getting complaints about "this is old news." When we do it too quickly, we end up having mistakes. As I said, it's a balance...

    As for last week in particular, my stories personally were a bit handicapped by my situation. I prefer to post stories within Safari, because it has built-in spellchecking. What do I have to work with at work recently? IE and Windows 2K. Crapola. Plus, I can't AIM the stories to one of my fellow editors to bounce it off them (ports blocked). That being said, I'm taking more time to edit now if I feel called to take the time and post at work.

    BTW... originial poster (skoker). Thanks for the class you showed in bringing up the issue. We get a lot of flack around here that isn't quite as constructive and have to just brush off (it still adds up though), and appreciate it when you approach the situation like you did.

    EDIT: no wisecracks about any misspellingz ;) in this post.
  17. skoker thread starter macrumors 68000


    Aug 6, 2005

    Anyways, maybe Arn could install some type of Java-web-based spell check for you guys? I know that there is a few out there, and there are vB plugins too if that's how you submit your stories.

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