Ok this has never happened before and don't know why its started to happen; When I open up front row and go to movies,playlists or artists etc and click select, the little circling buffer symbol comes up and stays there. Nothing happens so I just have to force quit out of it. But, if I already have iTunes open, and then open up front row, I can select and play anything from within front row. Before I was always able to open front row without itunes already being open. Then only things that I thought could be contributing was that a few days ago I installed you control: tunes which is an iTunes controller that stays in the menu bar. And I also had a demo version of Remote Buddy running. I've uninstalled Remote Buddy completely, and even when you control: tunes is running or not, the problem still persists. I've repaired any permissions I had but still no luck. I've removed the file 'com.apple.frontrow.plist' from ~/user/library/preferences, and then tried to start front row. No fix, but now there is a new .plist file in that location. I removed the library/preferences folder to the desktop. See my Apple Discussions Thread about it also. Any suggestions?? Running MacBook C2D 2.16GHz with OS X 10.4.11 Thanks, b.