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Fuel for the 'front-facing camera' fire?

Heh, could be but man I doubt it. Look at the condition of the top of that iPhone... looks like it's been though a vat at Mc Donalds. :eek:
 
Watching the actual video makes it painfully obvious that it's a fingerprint with the glare from the stage lights reflecting off of it.
 
iPhonedHome said:
Obvious? Care to make a small wager on that obviousness admanimal? :D
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Yes, actually, I am so sure that is a fingerprint with glare that I would wager just about anything I own. That's not to say that a front-facing camera won't appear later somewhere on the phone, maybe even close to that spot, but in that video, on that phone, I am 100% sure there is no front facing camera.

Here is another screen grab from the HD version of the keynote video. Still think there could be a camera on the front there?

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How about this. If video conferencing is announced for the iPhone 3G prior to July 11, you owe me a new phone case of my choosing ... say under $35 pre tax.

If I'm wrong I owe you a case.

Deal?
 
I usually dont buy into that kinda stuff, however the radius of that "fingerprint" seems to be a tad small.. and it seems perfectly round.. however you can kinda see other DEFINITE fingerprints on the rest of the screen that kinda look like that too..
 
iPhonedHome said:
How about this. If video conferencing is announced for the iPhone 3G prior to July 11, you owe me a new phone case of my choosing ... say under $35 pre tax.

If I'm correct you owe me a case.

Deal?
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No, that is not what I am saying at all. All I am saying is that the spot that gizmodo thinks could be a camera is obviously not a camera, and that there is no front facing camera -on the phone in that video-

I specifically said that I have no idea whether there could be a front-facing camera in the future.

What indication do we have that the phone in that video is even a 3G phone at all? It could very well be a 1st gen iPhone.

EDIT: OK now I see more clearly what people are saying could be the camera...not the smudge itself but the round looking thing under it...I'm going to check the HD video again but I'm still going with not a camera.
 
admanimal said:
No, that is not what I am saying at all. All I am saying is that the spot that gizmodo thinks could be a camera is obviously not a camera, and that there is no front facing camera -on the phone in that video-

I specifically said that I have no idea whether there could be a front-facing camera in the future.

What indication do we have that the phone in that video is even a 3G phone at all? It could very well be a 1st gen iPhone.
EDIT: OK now I see more clearly what people are saying could be the camera...not the smudge itself but the round looking thing under it...I'm going to check the HD video again but I'm still going with not a camera.
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https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/497147/

Check out post #135
 
admanimal said:
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At this point, I'd be shocked if there was a front camera. But I've seen this picture posted on other threads, and you can't see ANY of the sensors in that picture. We know there are sensors there, so you can't use this picture to say there is no front-facing camera. You need a picture where you can see some of the sensors and no front-mounted camera.
 
iPhonedHome said:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/497147/

Check out post #135
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Ah cool thanks

TexasAg said:
At this point, I'd be shocked if there was a front camera. But I've seen this picture posted on other threads, and you can't see ANY of the sensors in that picture. We know there are sensors there, so you can't use this picture to say there is no front-facing camera. You need a picture where you can see some of the sensors and no front-mounted camera.
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Yeah I see what people are talking about now...I'm going to watch the keynote again and see what I can see.
 
How come people don't give any thought to the smaller 'hole' on the right which appears to be exactly on the other side of the real cam?

And, why are people expecting this big hole in the front? I contend it would look like a sensor - hard to see - and small under the glass. Small like the cam on the back.
 
It defiantly looks like a camera. We will see though, if it is that would be sweet.
 
Umm... let me get this straight.

You are looking at close up pictures of one of the iPhones used in the keynote earlier this week and trying to determine whether or not there is a front facing video camera on them.

Have you entirely missed the already established fact that what you are looking at - because what was exclusively used on stage during the keynote - is a first generation iPhone?

... you aren't even looking at pictures of an iPhone 3G. :rolleyes:
 
benmrii said:
Umm... let me get this straight.

Have you entirely missed the already established fact that what you are looking at - because what was exclusively used on stage during the keynote - is a first generation iPhone?

... you aren't even looking at pictures of an iPhone 3G. :rolleyes:
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Benmrii - You are very wrong. Everyone knows the demo was a 3g camera. The side edges tell it all. Do you have an iPhone? If so, you know it's not the same. The 3g's border is akin to a Touch.
 
benmrii said:
Umm... let me get this straight.

You are looking at close up pictures of one of the iPhones used in the keynote earlier this week and trying to determine whether or not there is a front facing video camera on them.

Have you entirely missed the already established fact that what you are looking at - because what was exclusively used on stage during the keynote - is a first generation iPhone?

... you aren't even looking at pictures of an iPhone 3G. :rolleyes:
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May want to keep your day job ben! ;)

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...=497147&page=6

Check out post #135
 
While I want to believe...

I think such hardware secret is far fetched. The YouTube app of the last version was software, and more than likely just wasn't finished or they feared it wouldn't be ready on launch so they didnt say anything about it.

This also isnt a replacement of an item like replacing the glass or battery. This is a major hardware design and development item. Theres a slight chance they are holding it off, maybe even for the software that controls it not being ready, but I cant image a software thats souly in their hands (unlike the collaboration needed for the YouTube app) not being ready. Thats such a major wooo ahh factor that could potentially counter some of the negative feedback of AT&T plan changes that I cant believe they would hold off on it.


But maybe im wrong, I often am.. :)
 
benmrii said:
It's in a case, you nutters. Watch some of the side views during the keynote. That is not an iPhone 3G.
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You are wrong. Everyone knows it was a 3g in the demos. Yes it was in a case. Of course it was. It wasn't announced yet. The new iPhone has basically the same size specs as an old. I have an incase rubber case here and I'd bet anything I can stretch that over a 3g.

You must not have an iPhone yourself. Because it's really obvious. But believe what you want. No problemo.
 
It's a bubble from a screen protector. Plus if it were a camera it'd be too far left even for the NEW cases with the wider openings on top.
 
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