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Fully SIM Unlocked iPhones
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This will be killed
It may not be killed by apple. But AT&T will shut this down. This is costing them customers as well as the exclusive rights they have to supplying the Iphone service.
The packet is already in the legal department getting looked over by the lawyers right now.
It may not be killed by apple. But AT&T will shut this down. This is costing them customers as well as the exclusive rights they have to supplying the Iphone service.
The packet is already in the legal department getting looked over by the lawyers right now.
You don't think they predicted this happening from the get go? Apple and at&t already have a plan on how to handle this.
It's pretty nice and I've been hoping for this...but I just asked myself this; what makes it any better? You will still have to pay for a plan on T-Mobile and I don't think their data plan comes cheap. You'll also probably have to sign up for a contract with them. I know it would be great for people on T-MObile cause now they could have iPhone. But...carriers are all pretty much the same. Data and text is expensive...**** so are minutes! It's not like T-Mobile has a 39.99 unlimited data and 500 minutes a month plan.
I'll do some homework and see how beneficial it is. I am definitely happy they broke this though. I think the only thing Apple will care about is that they don't get a cut from the contracts on T-Mobile. It's too bad iPhone wasn't compatible with all carriers.
I'll do some homework and see how beneficial it is. I am definitely happy they broke this though. I think the only thing Apple will care about is that they don't get a cut from the contracts on T-Mobile. It's too bad iPhone wasn't compatible with all carriers.
You don't think they predicted this happening from the get go? Apple and at&t already have a plan on how to handle this.
Yeah, I agree. I wouldn't really care so much if they supplied this hack for free. But turning a profit on such a thing is pretty despicable. And especially since the article says it is well deserved.
I guess we should start paying hackers for Serial numbers they turn out too.
Awesome. I'll getting atleast a couple now. And I hope to send one to my sister outside US as well.
This is good stuff!!
All those who are supporting Apple and AT&T on this issue, chill it. You are the very name that spoils the game
This is good stuff!!
All those who are supporting Apple and AT&T on this issue, chill it. You are the very name that spoils the game
Yes! No roaming charges! At last, Europe can flood with iPhones! At last, I can consider to buy an iPhone sometime in the (somewhat distant) future!
But let's pause and reflect: Apple will not tolerate this because they are earning percentages from the user's subscriptions, in addition to the revenues from the device itself.
But let's pause and reflect: Apple will not tolerate this because they are earning percentages from the user's subscriptions, in addition to the revenues from the device itself.
Yea at first I got really excited... then I was like, "wait this doesn't affect me at all", then I remembered i'm studying abroad in spain in January for 5 months, then I said "**** what am I going to do?" Then I remembered that the iphone got unlocked.
So basically I have to unlock mine! ...I'm going to be all over next summer (spain, italy, china, greece).
But damn, am I basically screwed for the months I study abroad? ...aka I won't be able to use my AT&T service but i'll still have to pay for it? I'm still in the 14 day period, maybe i should do something about it..
So basically I have to unlock mine! ...I'm going to be all over next summer (spain, italy, china, greece).
But damn, am I basically screwed for the months I study abroad? ...aka I won't be able to use my AT&T service but i'll still have to pay for it? I'm still in the 14 day period, maybe i should do something about it..
Apple nor AT$T have any legal ground regarding the unlock. Legaly Carriers are not required to unlock a phone, but once a phone is unlocked they can not do ANYTHING to any party involved. Of course all apple has to do is create a simple software patch to break the lock, which im sure they will do, but they certaintly cant go after anyone legaly.
I wouldnt be suprised if apple does nothing...more iphone sales for them.
Then I'll chime in. When I had Verizon (4 years ago), it was the worst experience I have ever had in my life (up to that point) with a cell provider. I had a family plan and was wondering why my monthly bills were $200+ when 90% of my calls were to the phones on the plan (and I know what you are thinking: it's the other 10% - but it wasn't). I had a Verizon "customer service" rep tell me that they "pull" from your anytime minutes first - then when those are used up, they start taking from the mobile to mobile minutes! So if the majority of my calls were to the mobile phones on my plan during the "anytime minutes" - they counted those as anytime minutes not my m2m minutes. Verizon is pure evil. I hate them so much, that I started to have bad feelings about James Earl Jones by proxy (when he was the spokesman for Verizon).
But the unfortunate reality is - they are all the same. I never used T-Mobile or Spirint so can't speak for them, but the people I know that are with Verizon all say the same thing: "they're a terrible company, but you can't beat their coverage." What a sad state of affairs.
I'm a verizon customer. I like it better than Cingular and Sprint (both of which I had for over a year), but you're right -- they are still evil. The customer service is slightly better and from what I hear (my mom works in the industry), their data network is the envy of other US carriers. But they still do all the shameless stuff that other companies do, too.
I can't wait for that "free" spectrum to get built out.
Nice! Now Im getting one. I've been waiting for that all along. And yes Im willing to pay for it. In my opinion person who did it deserve to cash on it. But maybe its just me....
Now Im getting one. I've been waiting for that all along. And yes Im willing to pay for it. In my opinion person who did it deserve to cash on it. But maybe its just me....When I bought the iPhone a few days after launch, I was in a T-Mobile Family plan, which I have had since 2002. I had bought a discounted T-Mobile dash last year so I re-did my contract with them. I decided to go with the Pre-paid iPhone, with the hopes of the iPhone being unlocked. I also did not want to get into another contract just for myself.
Now that it has been unlocked, I am definitely going to go back into my T-Mobile family plan, where I get unlimited mins to my wife, and unlim mobile to mobile with my whole fam who also is with tmobile. My T-Mobile sim has been sitting on my desk collecting dust. My family plan also includes unlimited text. All I have to add is the T-Mobile Total Internet which is $29, but that also includes their wifi hotspot service.
I just hope they can release this before apple/att shut it down, if they can shut it down to begin with.
To misquote Kent Brockman, "I've said it before and I'll say it again, capitalism just doesn't work."
*drools*
now that iPhone on Orange UK is calling me, and cooincides perfectly as I was about to upgrade my SPV M600 next week, as my paycheque's coming in.
I predict disaster for my finances, due to iPhone-ness. I may have to tell the girlfriend to hide my cards.
now that iPhone on Orange UK is calling me, and cooincides perfectly as I was about to upgrade my SPV M600 next week, as my paycheque's coming in.
I predict disaster for my finances, due to iPhone-ness. I may have to tell the girlfriend to hide my cards.
You're assuming it's full price. It's quite possible that if Apple had decided to sell the phone with no contract or service (open), that it would be in the ballpark of the Nokia E90.
that's it exactly!Word! Here in Sweden every single phone on the market can be bought unlocked. Further more we don't even pay when we receive calls and SMS, heck we can even receive calls and SMS when without any money on our pay-to-go cards. I lived in Orange County the first half of this year and the cell phone business in the US is the evil work of capitalism.
International iPhone sales on eBay are going to bloom now.
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Not entirely true, this opens up the phone for rural GSM customers as well, who have access to neither AT&T or T-Mobile.
If Apple don't already have the European carriers signed up (as rumored), this is going to cause a major headache for them - would a carrier willingly sign up and give Apple some of their revenue, knowing that their advantage has taken a hit.
As suggested above, it really should have been offered sim-free in the first place though, it would put a stop to the bitching about providers for a start - and firmly place the onus on the carriers to provide the best plans for the phone.
As suggested above, it really should have been offered sim-free in the first place though, it would put a stop to the bitching about providers for a start - and firmly place the onus on the carriers to provide the best plans for the phone.
Saw this artlicle about a New Jersey teen unlocking the iPhone:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/08/24/financial/f081724D48.DTL&type=business
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/08/24/financial/f081724D48.DTL&type=business