I'm a former student at a well known design school in Pasadena and while we're known for some really bright talent...but some of the students just make me go wow...wow...really did that just come out of your mouth? Theres were these 4 students standing over a G5 quad and after listening to their conversation I derived that their trying to fry the G5 to get a new one from apple since his applecare is expiring in 2 weeks. Below is just some of the things they did; 1. pull out the videocard while the mcachine is still on and stick a screw driver in the pci slot.***spark everything shuts down but it powers right back up 2. drag a screw driver over the bottom of the video card ***spark everything shuts down and she starts right back up. 3. drag screwdriver across logic board ***same thing spark everything shuts down and it doesn't start right back up but in a minuet or so it starts up again. 4. took metal scrap strips and were dragging it across the logic board ***just gave off really pretty spark show and nothing else 5. I left before this one but they were discussing putting aluminum foil over the part of the video card that goes into the PCI slot ***I'm not a electrical engineer but that sounds really dangerous. My question is...after watching ******** 1,2,3 and 4 spark and short the computer out and watching it start right back up how the hell do you fry a G5? From my understanding of computers that should've toasted most computers. Also how can apple tell? God the idiots will weed themselves out haha ****Good to be back on this board, last time I was on was in 2003 when I got my first mac, couldn't remember my login or anything.