Fusion 1.1 beta with Vista x64 (Bootcamp) Network issues

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  1. gn!uz macrumors newbie

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    Hi, I can't get networking to work when using the Vista x64 Bootcamp partition in Fusion 1.1 beta. Somehow the drivers are not recognized. The SCSI drivers arent recognized either...

    Does anyone have any tips? Would be awesome if this would work...

    It's a new 24" 2.8GHz iMac with 4Gb and 500Gb disk btw...


    Many thanks

    G
     
  2. nospamboz macrumors regular

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    Apple's Boot Camp itself only supports 32-bit Vista. You'll have to wait until
    Apple supports 64-bit Vista in Boot Camp, and then when VMware supports
    that Boot Camp.

    Meanwhile, Vista x64 works fine as a regular VM.
     
  3. gn!uz thread starter macrumors newbie

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    This is interesting. Vista x64 is indeed supported bij Fusion. And Bootcamp at the moment only supports 32 bit Vista.

    I already mentioned that I have a fully working native Vista x64 system (except for iSight) on my iMac using Bootcamp (without the Bootcamp drivers cd). The only drivers I needed to install were the NIC driver and the display driver (the latest ATI drivers, this was a bit tricky). Wireless and wired networking is working perfect! This is not the case when virtualising this bootcamp partition in Fusion. Everything works except networking.

    So how come Fusion supports Vista x64 while there is no network support using a bootcamp Vista x64 partition.

    Thanks
     
  4. nospamboz macrumors regular

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    As you'd suspect: drivers, drivers, drivers.

    Normal VMware gets Windows to run on the VMware virtual machine, with
    virtual network card, virtual graphics, virtual this and that. VMware supplies
    drivers for all the virtual devices they designed. Underlying those drivers
    are the magic on how to map virtual hardware to actual hardware, and
    that varies according to what VMware product you are running (Fusion,
    Player, Workstation, etc), but they all have the same virtual machine
    in common.

    In Boot Camp Apple provides drivers for the actual Mac hardware, not
    virtual hardware. The advantage Apple has is that there isn't a lot of
    variation in Apple hardware, and they certainly know their own machine.

    When Fusion runs a Boot Camp partition as a VM, somehow it manages
    to get the Boot Camp drivers and VMWare drivers to co-exist in a single
    installation, almost as if you took your hard disk and moved it from
    machine to machine. They can do this with Boot Camp because it's
    a pretty consistent target, basically an alternative virtual machine.
    Start throwing 3rd party drivers in there, though, and all bets are off.

    I suspect the network is affected because of the funny way Fusion
    shares the network between the host and guest OS's, via their vmnet
    processes. Just be glad it's the only thing not working.

    When Apple provides 64-bit Boot Camp drivers, then VMware will have
    their fixed target and can do 64-bit Boot Camp VMs. Or they may be
    clever and figure out a way to do it without Apple. They're obviously
    very clever people, those VMware folks.
     
  5. ecytang88 macrumors newbie

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    I am having the same problem with OSX Leopard in my MBP exactly.

    I manage to make the Vista 64 to run in bootcamp with bootcamp 2.0 (with all the 64bit drivers) and it is stable and all the drivers are working as design included isight and the bluetooth mouse.

    However, it is a different story when I load the bootcamp partition with VMware Fusion 1.1 built 6xxx (sorry I do not know the built number exactly) with no VMware installed. Originally, there were a few drivers missing such as BlueTooth mouse, both wired and wireless NIC, sound card, video and SCSI.

    After I installed the VMware tools, some drivers have been added included Bluetooth mouse, sound card and video and they works afterall but the wired and wireless NIC and SCSI drivers are still missing in VMware Fusion enironment.

    I am going to install the VMware 1.1.1 tonight and I hope it solve the issue.

    Please help if anyone has a better idea to this missing NIC and SCSI drivers with Vista 64 OS.
     
  6. fupot macrumors newbie

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    same issue - no network functionality in 64 bit Vista, Boot camp, Fusion

    Having the same problem as others here -- anyone figure out/know of a fix?

    Running:
    Macbook Pro 2.4 Ghz
    Fusion 1.1.1
    Vista Ultimate x64 on Bootcamp partition

    Vista 64 runs fine under bootcamp with networking, isight, bluetooth, etc.

    Loading the bootcamp partition with VMware Fusion 1.1.1 results in missing NIC and SCSI functionality.

    If anyone's figured out a way to fix this, would love to hear about it.

    Thanks in advance!
     
  7. JustinEvil macrumors newbie

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    I'm having the exact opposite problem that you're having. My internet works like a charm for 64 bit vista when I'm running it through fusion, but when I boot from the boot camp partition it doesn't even recognize that I have an ethernet connection or even an ethernet port.

    Any ideas?
     

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