Future of iPhone 5(s,c)

[DMVillain]

I can hardly wait for my iPhone 6 plus, but I can't imagine that everyone wants a 4.7" or 5.5" phone. I wonder (hope) that Apple will retain the iPhone 5s or 5c as a smaller model, even updating it with the latest technology (including Pay) for those that want power and function without the additional size. Thoughts?

 

[617aircav]

They won't and you know it.

 

[DMVillain]

They won't and you know it.

The iPad 2 stayed around for a while, then was updated to the "iPad with retina display", so why couldn't an iPhone do something similar?

 

[Tyler23]

The iPad 2 stayed around for a while, then was updated to the "iPad with retina display", so why couldn't an iPhone do something similar?

The NFC technology needed for the ApplePay process would physically not fit in the 5s or 5c, the phones would need to get bigger. Presto, iPhone 6.

 

[DMVillain]

The NFC technology needed for the ApplePay process would physically not fit in the 5s or 5c, the phones would need to get bigger. Presto, iPhone 6.

Why not? It fits in an Apple Watch, Blackberries have NFC, small android phones have NFC, hell, a Nokia flip phone in 2006 had NFC. Why can't an iPhone 5s/5c?

 

[nnacrumors]

I wonder (hope) that Apple will retain the iPhone 5s or 5c as a smaller model, even updating it with the latest technology (including Pay) for those that want power and function without the additional size. Thoughts?

I wish this as well.

A three model range would be ideal for customer choice:

• 4-inch
• 4.7-inch
• 5.5-inch

Unfortunately... when it comes to smartphones it's pretty much take whatever the OEM decides gives you

Take Motorola for example, they had a die-hard following of people for the size and compactness of the MotoX... yet they come out with some huge 5.2 inch monster for the 2nd generation, so what can you do?

The hip new thing is large screens, almost every industry goes through these sort of periods where the manufacturers try to come out with new sizes (from small to big to small to big etc) that the customers haven't had before and will get them to buy. I'm going to try and wait through it and hopefully Apple will have a smaller model once again in 3-4 years.

In the meantime I simply plan to keep my 5s on iOS 7 (maybe 8 as long as others say there is ZERO performance degradation on the 5s) and as fast as the day I bought it, as well as battery replacement(s) if needed over the years to keep battery life like new.

 

[Tyler23]

Why not? It fits in an Apple Watch, Blackberries have NFC, small android phones have NFC, hell, a Nokia flip phone in 2006 had NFC. Why can't an iPhone 5s/5c?

Because those were made and designed with the nfc technology built in. The 5s/c were not. They can't just cram it in. They'd need to change the internals or make it bigger.

Either way, won't happen.

 

[kerr]

I'd be fairly confident that in September 2015, the 5c will be replaced by a 6c with an A8 processor. Not sure if there will ever be a new 4.0" device with a brand new processor. There should be though, I'm sure many people would want it (rather than a c model).

 

[jlake02]

5 s/c users will need an iWatch to use NFC I bet.

 

[nnacrumors]

5 s/c users will need an iWatch to use NFC I bet.

That's not that bad a compromise either. Would be nice to get that new generation feature tide into a 5s

p.s. I assume you simply made a mistake when you said 5c users above (seeing as they don't have touch i.d.) right?

 

[jlake02]

p.s. I assume you simply made a mistake when you said 5c users above (seeing as they don't have touch i.d.) right?

Nope, the iWatch has its own security code and skin contact. Don't believe you need TouchID to pay with iWatch.

 

[Zxxv]

The iPad 2 stayed around for a while, then was updated to the "iPad with retina display", so why couldn't an iPhone do something similar?

Apple had no choice if they wanted future business. They sold a boat load to schools and businesses. Imagine what would happen if they discontinued and bricked them. Consumers they can handle but schools and governments demand longer support.

 

[craigc_]

To be honest, I can see them keeping the 4" alive but only in the C model. And that model would continue to remain free. Then this years 6 would be $99 and the 6S/7 will be the new flagship.

$0 iPhone 6C
$99 iPhone 6
$199 iPhone 6+
$199 iPhone 6S
$299 iPhone 6S+

Seems like a lot of SKUs for Apple but hard to see it any other way. Unless they eliminate the 6/6+ next year (or only have one model 6) along with the S and C models.

 

[617aircav]

The iPad 2 stayed around for a while, then was updated to the "iPad with retina display", so why couldn't an iPhone do something similar?

The 5s has already been updated. The 6.

 

[geoff5093]

Because those were made and designed with the nfc technology built in. The 5s/c were not. They can't just cram it in. They'd need to change the internals or make it bigger.

Either way, won't happen.

Sounds like you are typing out of your ass, IMO. Will Apple continue making an iPhone 5S? Probably not. But to say it's because they can't fit an NFC chip inside is not accurate, unless you have some insider info. The NFC antenna on Android phones that you can see are incredibly thin and are mounted to the back side of the battery doors, barely noticeable. Apple wouldn't keep the same design for years if they did keep a 4" screen, so making a new 4" iPhone with NFC would not be impossible.

 

[Tyler23]

Sounds like you are typing out of your ass, IMO. Will Apple continue making an iPhone 5S? Probably not. But to say it's because they can't fit an NFC chip inside is not accurate, unless you have some insider info. The NFC antenna on Android phones that you can see are incredibly thin and are mounted to the back side of the battery doors, barely noticeable. Apple wouldn't keep the same design for years if they did keep a 4" screen, so making a new 4" iPhone with NFC would not be impossible.

Sure, the best way to discuss is to insult someone.

 

[DMVillain]

Because those were made and designed with the nfc technology built in. The 5s/c were not. They can't just cram it in. They'd need to change the internals or make it bigger.

Either way, won't happen.

I probably didn't word my ideas right. You're right that it cannot be cramed in. However, as thin as the 6 is, I find it hard to believe that some sort of compromise cannot be reached for a tiny NFC chip.

 

[geoff5093]

Sure, the best way to discuss is to insult someone.

Do I need to send you an apology card?

 

[Michael CM1]

Depending on sales figures, I wouldn't be surprised if a 4-inch phone was part of the iPhone 7 lineup in a couple of years.

 

[12vElectronics]

To be honest, I can see them keeping the 4" alive but only in the C model. And that model would continue to remain free. Then this years 6 would be $99 and the 6S/7 will be the new flagship.

$0 iPhone 6C
$99 iPhone 6
$199 iPhone 6+
$199 iPhone 6S
$299 iPhone 6S+

Seems like a lot of SKUs for Apple but hard to see it any other way. Unless they eliminate the 6/6+ next year (or only have one model 6) along with the S and C models.

No way Apple keeps that many SKUs as current. 4 is pushing it, 5 is just impossible.