Future Xeon Beckton?

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  1. sdschwendener macrumors regular

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    I know there are quite a few knowledgeable people here. I have read basic info that Beckton is an 8 core chip and supports quad socket configurations. Does anyone think we will see a 16 core mac pro next year? Thoughts?
     
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    No. Never. Beckton is too expensive.

    Westmere will be out by next year, anyway. Gulftown is the next Mac Pro.
     
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    Hmmm, what socket does it use? Is it compatible with anything Apple has made so far?
     
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    Beckton uses boards that take four CPUs.

    1. The board can't fit in the current case, and Apple isn't changing the case.
    2. It takes four CPUs. No one would pay for that.
    3. The market is too small for Beckton to go in a mainstream computer.
     
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    Where did you get that info? It will run on LGA-1567 sockets and have 4 QPI instead of 2 that Nehalem Gainstown uses. I would think that four socket MoBos will be extremely unlikely. The current 2 sockets would give 16 cores (32 threads) within the 2 socket board architecture. That is plenty of power for any application you can imagine.

    I agree with Tesselator though, that Gulftown will be more likely as Apple's next Mac Pro Generation. It retains the LGA-1366 socket, pushes two more cores, introduces 32 nm technology and on die MCM GPU. In the traditional two socket arrangement a 12 core, dual GPU machine would be interesting fodder for Snow Leopard without a huge burden of hardware re design. I doubt that Apple will be able to resist the temptation.
     
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    http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?94743

     
  8. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

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    Having never used the 7xxx series, I think they'll do just fine resisting.
     
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    It is for servers, not workstations. It is an MP processor which is aimed at a minimum of 4 sockets. While it is possible someone will make a 2 socket LGA 1567 board it doesn't seem likely. Unless you were refering to a Mac Pro having more than 2 sockets.
     
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    You seem to have changed your mind. In April you also thought that Gulftown would be the way they will go. So what is it now?
     
  11. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

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    Gulftown... in 2010...

    I fail to see what you're talking about.
     
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    I cannot imagine Apple going to a 4 x 130 W TDP design. Their experience is with 2 x 130 W maximum. This would bust the complete architecture of the Mac Pro. So the only sensible option would be a two socket Becton. It would be a very singular machine stuck with 45 nm technology.

    So the alternative of Gulftown still appears to be much more probable to me. Much of that technology will carry over to Sandy Bridge and that will be the 1011-1012 road map.
     
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    So what did you mean in post # 8?

    This was in answer to my post #6 saying that I expected Apple to use Gulftown.
     

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