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FW800 on new Mac mini, but NOT MacBook!
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Oh, so now you're not only Jonathan Ive, but also able to predict the future, in the same way as all the leaked photos/video of the new Mini was dismissed by almost all as 'nonsense'.
Oh and the double the sales was an example, simply to say that Apple could EASILY - read: "EASILY" add the port, should they so desire. You really are very rude, and as such your comments rather less valid. You're really very amusing in the the way in which you defend Apple to the very death, simply to prove that some guy on a forum MUST be wrong. The iPod Nano was 'nonsense' until it was revealed to be fact, and the same as the leak. The point I make is... how do YOU know what's coming next?.
Designers are called designer because they design things - were you aware?. They can easily add the port, they just decided not to. I don't know what you do for a living, but you'd be extremely poor at your job, if hired by Apple design team - fact. Good design isn't 'magic' my friend - it's common sense - Apple designed the awful trackball on the Mighty Mouse, which is one of THE worst design concepts ever. Apple triumph 99% of the time, but by no means are they infallible.
The simple reason (IMO) there is no FW800 on the MB is that now they've made it aluminium and capable of driving the 30" ACD like the MBP there would be very little to differentiate the two machines apart from a couple of inches of screen real-estate.
It may have been a cynical move by Apple but basically what they're saying is if you want Firewire on an Apple notebook then you're going to have to stump up for the MBP.
Apple always have (and probably always will) made seemingly arbitrary distinctions between their product lines and this is just another one
It may have been a cynical move by Apple but basically what they're saying is if you want Firewire on an Apple notebook then you're going to have to stump up for the MBP.
Apple always have (and probably always will) made seemingly arbitrary distinctions between their product lines and this is just another one
No room.
Oh look - someone @ Apple must have waved their magic wand; they MADE ROOM. Kinda makes you look like you really didn't have a clue what you were talking about.
Oh look guys... it's STILL 13 inch, it's STILL aluminium and they STILL managed to fit in FW800 *AND* SD card slot... ROFL!!.
http://unboxing.gearlive.com/unbox/article/q209-unboxing-13-inch-apple-macbook-pro/
http://store.apple.com/uk_smb_67752/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macbook_pro?mco=MTIyMDI
Yes. Anyone who is working as an engineer knows that we design from written requirements. The powers that be say "...shall have two type Y ports and three type X ports" so you make it happen. There is always a way to make it happen. Maybe you rotate the ports so they are long end vertical or have a custom connector made that eliminates the space between ports or maybe a custom chip designed that save PCB space. These is always a way to do it but the problem is COST and TIME to design it. If the product is $200 over budget and 6 months late it is not good. Typically in the early stages managment will ask for cost and schedule options and then enginerring will come back and say "Option A is about $400 per unit and 18 months of design time, Option B is a stock design we can do in 4 months, C is between the to....." lots of meeting that sound like that, I've been in many of them. Picking the "correct" option is a management decision not and engineering decision.
So now, WHY does the computers have the feature set it does? No because it will fit or not but because after listening to the engineers Apple's management decided that was the correct price and schedule point to shoot for.
My observation is that typically schedule estimates matter as much or even more to management than cost estimates. So it could be that they did not want to spend an extra 6 months of a custom chip or something like that
Notice that Apple bought a chip design company. This will allow them to save a lot of PCB space, likely in their smallest products (iPods and iPhones) where it really matters. But see, it's expensive, costs millions just to play in that space.