G5 Cube is Possible!

Discussion in 'General Mac Discussion' started by neonart, Sep 1, 2004.

  1. neonart macrumors 65816


    Sep 4, 2002
    Near a Mac since 1993.
    I remember just a few months ago I argued with other members here about weather or not Apple could make a smaller headless G5 based machine in the realm of $999.
    While I don't think Apple has any plans for this, after seeing the new iMac, I'm very confident that if Apple wanted to release a small form factor G5 at under $1K, it could!

    Why do I even bring this up? Well, It's just a wish I guess.

    Would it not be absolutely cool if a G5 cube (not necessarily 8x8) was available with the same specs as the 1.6 G5 iMac, but with no monitor for less than a grand! Think of all the PC users that would drool over such a machine!

    Oh well...
  2. Laslo Panaflex macrumors 65816

    Laslo Panaflex

    May 1, 2003

    Edit: When I posted the above comment the thread was empty, and there was only a title.
  3. cslewis macrumors 6502a


    Jul 23, 2004
    40º27.8''N, 75º42.8''W
    How? If it's on the web, kindly provide a link... :p
  4. neonart thread starter macrumors 65816


    Sep 4, 2002
    Near a Mac since 1993.
    Here is a cool photo that was floating around a few weeks ago:

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  5. kgarner macrumors 68000


    Jan 28, 2004
    Cool? Yes, but hardly convincing proof that a G5 cube is possible.
  6. FightTheFuture macrumors 6502a


    Oct 19, 2003
    that town east of ann arbor
    picture would make sense if it was real though. the imac G5s look like ipods and the G5 cubes would look like ipod minis
  7. davecuse macrumors 6502


    Feb 20, 2004
    I for one like the idea of a sub $1000 G5 cube, and I agree that a ton of PC users would as well. Will it happen? Probably not, but I always like to be surprised.

  8. neonart thread starter macrumors 65816


    Sep 4, 2002
    Near a Mac since 1993.
    Not saying that there is any proof of anything coming out. Just that technologically it's possible at the price I mentioned.
  9. keysersoze macrumors 68000


    Jan 6, 2004
    I always liked the cube... never had one though. If a G5 cube came out, I'd be psyched. :)
  10. jaw04005 macrumors 601


    Aug 19, 2003
    We can only dream. Awesome concept though, loving the colors!
  11. ocellnuri macrumors regular

    Aug 20, 2004
    Raleigh, NC, USA
    I was walking across campus today and a guy walked by me in a G4 Cube shirt. It made me wish Apple put out a new cube... and a G5 is exactly what I'd want it to be. I would snap one up for sub-$1k and setup a KVM on one of my LCDs. :)
  12. JeffTL macrumors 6502a

    Dec 18, 2003
    How about a G5 cube with a built in USB/DVI (and maybe VGA, or just run that through the analog parts of the DVI) KVM? Everyone would want one then -- a few hundred bucks and a few square inches of desk space for the power of a 64-bit Unix workstation to be one push of a button away at all times.
  13. jasonwood macrumors newbie

    Dec 27, 2003
    Ontario, Canada
    I think the Cube was a failure because it had prosumer appeal on the hardware side, but no software and they marketed it as a PowerMac. Consumers want a reasonable bundle of software!

    I think if they reintroduced the Cube (or something similar) as a consumer/prosumer alternative to the imac, with all the software of the imac, they'd be successful.
  14. mms macrumors 6502a

    Oct 8, 2003
    It's possible... but that doesn't mean that Apple will make one. And with the right product strategy it could be a success. But why? The new iMac is a prosumer machine, which is well designed, attractive to the eye, and is compact, taking up little desktop space (even less than the Cube). There's no way that the Cube is superior to the new iMac (except for nostalgic longtime Mac users). I'm not in any way degrading the Cube. I own one and think that it was superbly designed. But the iMac beats the Cube at its own game, compactness and desgin, and will be marketed as a midlevel consumer machine and a good price.
  15. paxtonandrew macrumors 6502

    May 10, 2004
    I Come From A Land Down Under
    I too believe the cube to be a possibility, but the fact remains, will Apple release a PowerMac G5 Cube? The answer, probably not. The form factor is perfect, and if coloured similarly similar to the 'iPod/iMac' (white) and the iPod Mini/PowerMac Mini (coloured) than i could see some sense in the purchase of one. If this happens, and a 2.0 ghz G5 is put in a small form factor, the computer would sell better than the ill fated (but beautiful) G4 Cube.
  16. thatwendigo macrumors 6502a


    Nov 17, 2003
    Sum, Ergo Sum.
    I'm still waiting to see someone show how a cube is possible. The iMac G5 is considerably larger than the original iMac, when you get down to internal volume, and it has a custom cooling system that uses blowthrough fans. There's also the other issues I've repeatedly harped on: lowered bus, single-channel RAM, lower-end graphics, and so on.

    Solve these and I'll believe it, but there's no reason to believe a cheap, headless G5 is all that credible.
  17. JFreak macrumors 68040


    Jul 11, 2003
    Tampere, Finland
    the g5 imac uses three variable-speed fans, which is not so much that it couldn't be handled with passive cooling. that (heat) is the only reason why cube might not be possible, but it seems they have it under control now, so it must be possible.

    space is not an issue, they can put in all required parts in a 12" laptop so it's a piece of cake to put the same parts in a relatively (compared to a laptop) huge cube.

    it's just that i don't think steve wants to do it. unless they drop emac and replace it with a cube :)
  18. AmigoMac macrumors 68020


    Aug 5, 2003
    The G5 cube should be the 20th anniversary mac ...

    Steve, we're waiting, give us the G5 cube and do not forget the Colors ...

    Ohh! One more thing...

    Pls., Tell Phil that the iPod mini comes with a 4GB drive , not 5 ;) ...
  19. pigwin32 macrumors regular

    Aug 27, 2003
    The Cube was a failure because it was too expensive. It broke Apple's philosophy of style and substance, oodles of style but too little substance for the target market. Having said that I recently purchased a second-hand cube and they've certainly held their value, presumably being now something of a collectable.

    But I believe there is a market for a G5 Cube at an appropriate price. I would speculate there is a huge audience of consumers and professionals who would jump at the chance to buy a Cube they could hang a couple of displays off, or no displays if like me you want a compact server, hence my recent Cube purchase.

    Speculating further, the corporate world thrives on machines like the HP ultraslim desktop but is unlikely to buy iMacs or PowerMacs for the same role. Given Apple's stated intent to make inroads into the corporate environment there must be a compact desktop in their product plans, a G5 Cube would be the perfect combination of performance, price, and style. Perhaps the dearth of G5 chips has impacted the introduction of such a machine.
  20. pigwin32 macrumors regular

    Aug 27, 2003
    I think you should probably forget about passive cooling. I think pretty much all upgrades for the existing Cube include a cooling fan. Certainly the 1.25GHz G4 I've got in my one has a fan. Space is definitely an issue, sure they can put all the required parts for a G4 laptop into a 12" PB but that is not a consumer machine. Putting a G5 plus components into a Cube enclosure at a reasonable retail price is not a piece of cake.
  21. fedora macrumors member

    Jun 30, 2004
    maybe it could replace the current Emac, the small footprint would be great for schools and the fact that it is headless and could be put i a cabinet under a desk so people dont try to stick paperclips in slot loading drives would be a bonus. They would be the perfect education mac and i think they would sell well.
  22. slowtreme macrumors 6502

    May 27, 2003
    Tampa FL
    Seems to me that they listened to all the Headless Mac crap on the forums, and gave us a Computerless Screen.

    The Headless Mac is called PowerMac G5 :)
  23. Dalriada macrumors 6502

    Aug 26, 2004
    Moorlough Shore
    No no, the 20th anniversary should be a G5 iMac SE special edition which simply would be an Alu version with upgradeable graphics ... that's the machine I'd buy. :cool:
  24. jeremy.king macrumors 603


    Jul 23, 2002
    Fuquay Varina, NC
    The reference to headless mac people wanting a lower priced desktop system with specs similar to the iMac. Back in the day, they called it the Performa line - I was a true blue 6400 owner :eek: Although,I would love to see a desktop system in the $500-$900 range, I don't think it will happen until people stop buying the eMac/iMac

    When did the term desktop become headless anyway?

    Like the million other people, I would love to see a G5 cube that is low cost. :) Personally I love that mockup.
  25. Lancetx macrumors 68000


    Aug 11, 2003
    True. And if you hunt around, you can still find the 1.6 single processor Power Mac G5s as low as $1,299. They had some at that price at Fry's for a while before they sold out and Apple has refurbished ones in their special deals section of the online store from time to time as well.

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