G5s in July? Than...

[gopher]

QuickSilver noise not a problem in current models

The first Quicksilvers had an issue of noise with the fan. But a month later people getting newer Quicksilvers found it had less noise. A second problem people complain about noise is because these drives are particularly sensitive to whether or not CDs have been labelled or are left with a factory label. When a label is there, the CD becomes unballanced, causing the drive to spin almost out of control trying to keep it ballanced.

Originally posted by dukestreet
Its only June 5th, we've got more than a month to go before we see what Apple's going to do. This type of discussion will be rehashed a dozen times before the keynote, uhhgghhhh! Its almost as bad as saying iWalk.....

Personally, I don't think that we'll see G5s this year, look for revamped G4s with better memory and faster busses. With all the complaints about fan noise in the current desktops, I wouldn't be surprised if we see the power source moved out of the case to save room and remove heat.

 

[boymerang]

Originally posted by ftaok
Well, my opinion is that when Apple does get around to putting in G4s in the iBook, they'll discontinue the use of G3s. That way, there's no confusion. Also, since they've released the 700mhz iBook, I don't see the iBook getting a G4 lower than 800mhz.

so what you're basically saying is that you genuinely think they're going to make two different laptops, that are nearly identicle in spec? or are you hoping they're going to release a new powerbook with all sorts of new doodads and doohickies? if they're both running with a G4 chip, the differences between the two become a little ephemeral. it's not like the distinctions made between the iMac and the Power Mac...one's expandable, and the other's, err, white. but really, they'll have to put something other than a G3 in those things eventually...but i don't see them doing that until they can move the PowerBooks further up the food chain a little. and if they go from 700mhz G3s to like 400 or 550mhz G4s...can we still call that a speed bump? or a speed-drop? and is everyone going to be left scratching their heads? it appears their portable line's in a bit of a pickle.

 

[ftaok]

Originally posted by boymerang


so what you're basically saying is that you genuinely think they're going to make two different laptops, that are nearly identicle in spec? or are you hoping they're going to release a new powerbook with all sorts of new doodads and doohickies? if they're both running with a G4 chip, the differences between the two become a little ephemeral. it's not like the distinctions made between the iMac and the Power Mac...one's expandable, and the other's, err, white. but really, they'll have to put something other than a G3 in those things eventually...but i don't see them doing that until they can move the PowerBooks further up the food chain a little. and if they go from 700mhz G3s to like 400 or 550mhz G4s...can we still call that a speed bump? or a speed-drop? and is everyone going to be left scratching their heads? it appears their portable line's in a bit of a pickle.

No, what I'm saying is that with the advent of the 700mhz iBook, Apple wouldn't be able to put out a G4 iBook that's lower than 800mhz. And yes, I don't think they'd bring out an 800mhz G4 iBook unless the TiBook got bumped to over 1ghz.

But in my little future world, the TiBook would be using the 7455 (with L3 cache) and a 266 bus. The iBook would get the 7445 and a 100 (or 133 bus). On top of that, there would still be the other differences to separate the Ti from the i.

But since the 700 iBook came out, my time table got thrown all out of whack. I've since given up on making predictions with a time frame. Only "eventually's" will make it into my predcitions.

 

[alex_ant]

Re: Re: Uhhhhhh

Originally posted by MacAztec


You are sick.

Please, leave the forums because of your immaturity.

I laughed.

 

[Grokgod]

~ftaok

Ahhh, the little future world!
I uhh remember that world, isnt that off of Insano street next to whathehellareyoutalkinbout ave.

I think that the iBook G4 timetable is a hard nut to crack and read the membranes of! The powerbook will have to PUSH up hard and fast, to quote a recent adventure.
Before we see the kind of reality your talkin about.

 

[topicolo]

Originally posted by ftaok

Oh, and Palm screwed themselves by not evolving the OS. Not Motorola.

Not entirely true. Palm was definitely limited by the slow clockspeeds that the dragonball provided. I mean, they didn't reach 66Mhz until sometime last year! Even then, the chip is easily inferior compared to the ARM, MIPS, or other chip families used by the PocketPC even at the same megahertz. The dragonball at 66Mhz is barely faster than the 33Mhz version and can still only support 16mb of ram. Palm may not have upgraded their OS much, but that's only because moto's crappy dragonballs wouldn't be able to keep up if they did added new features. The only things that dragonballs are good at is saving energy and making you wait. No wonder palm's moving to TI when they upgrade to ARMs.

 

[ftaok]

Originally posted by topicolo


Not entirely true. Palm was definitely limited by the slow clockspeeds that the dragonball provided. I mean, they didn't reach 66Mhz until sometime last year! Even then, the chip is easily inferior compared to the ARM, MIPS, or other chip families used by the PocketPC even at the same megahertz. The dragonball at 66Mhz is barely faster than the 33Mhz version and can still only support 16mb of ram. Palm may not have upgraded their OS much, but that's only because moto's crappy dragonballs wouldn't be able to keep up if they did added new features. The only things that dragonballs are good at is saving energy and making you wait. No wonder palm's moving to TI when they upgrade to ARMs.

Right, Palm was slow to react to the Microsoft threat. They thought that their 90% market share protected them from any competition. When they saw what Window CE could do, they should have been developing a plan to migrate the Palm OS to StrongARM processor.

No one held a gun to Palm's head making them use the DragonBall. That was Palm's decision. Perhaps they could have persuaded Motorola to integrate more StrongARM instructions into the DragonBall. But at the very least, they should have developed migration path to the StrongARM.

 

[ftaok]

Re: ~ftaok

Originally posted by Grokgod
Ahhh, the little future world!
I uhh remember that world, isnt that off of Insano street next to whathehellareyoutalkinbout ave.

I think that the iBook G4 timetable is a hard nut to crack and read the membranes of! The powerbook will have to PUSH up hard and fast, to quote a recent adventure.
Before we see the kind of reality your talkin about.

Yeah, good ole' whattheheallareyoutalkinbout ave. Been there many times since MWSF. When I take a step back and look at what Apple has done since MWSF, I'm just completely amazed.

Anyways, there will be a G4 iBook eventually. Probably 800mhz and the TiBook (or whatever it'll be called then) will be 1ghz by then. Maybe MWSF '03, but don't quote me.

 

[DannyZR2]

Re: Re: ~ftaok

Originally posted by ftaok
Anyways, there will be a G4 iBook eventually. Probably 1.2Ghz and the TiBook (or whatever it'll be called then) will be 2ghz by then. Maybe MWSF '03, but don't quote me.

Don't worry, no one would do anything like that..

yer nuts though for thinking about a 2 ghz tibook and1.2 ghz ibook by mwsf '03! what a nut!

 

[Dunepilot]

Danny, why did you ammend the MHz figures in his quoted post to make it look like ftaok had posted something crazy?

You are the nut!

 

[ftaok]

Originally posted by Dunepilot
Danny, why did you ammend the MHz figures in his quoted post to make it look like ftaok had posted something crazy?

You are the nut!

Yeah, what up with that?

I had to do a double take. I thought that I had made a typo (or a Freudian slip).

Good thing that Dunepilot caught it. Otherwise I'd be on my way to Arkham Asylum right about now.

 

[Mac DV]

whoa

This thread is getting out of hand.
No G5 until MWSF if even then. Mabye a dual 1.4 Ghz apollo but even that is a stretch, as Arn pointed out a week or two ago. New ram architecture, new case. But hey, I'm still excited.

 

[topicolo]

Originally posted by ftaok
Right, Palm was slow to react to the Microsoft threat. They thought that their 90% market share protected them from any competition. When they saw what Window CE could do, they should have been developing a plan to migrate the Palm OS to StrongARM processor.

No one held a gun to Palm's head making them use the DragonBall. That was Palm's decision. Perhaps they could have persuaded Motorola to integrate more StrongARM instructions into the DragonBall. But at the very least, they should have developed migration path to the StrongARM.

Well, I sorta agree. No one did hold a gun to palm's head at the beginning, and to tell you the truth, a dragonball processor was perfect for the early palms--they had low power consumption, integrated lcd controls, etc--which were nothing more than glorified organizers. Nevertheless, the palm became more than just an organizer and the possible uses for the palm increased, but the dragonball couldn't keep up with palm's requirements and at that point, palm would expend too much effort if they moved to another platform so in effect, palm was locked in near the end. It just seemed that palm tried to milk the market for too long and now they're f*cked (God, it reminds me of 3dfx).

I agree that palm should've developed a migration path to the strongARM. Too bad it's beginning to seem like it's gonna be too late. I just hope M$ doesn't win and we don't end up with pocketpcs taking up 95% of the marketshare with palm and symbian constituting the remaining 5%. that would truly suck ass.