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Ask, and it shall be...
Cheers, lads (or possibly ladettes?).
Hmmmmm. That's a lot of computers.
Maybe my 6 switchers aren't quite so impressive after all...
Brother Mugga
Cheers, lads (or possibly ladettes?).
Hmmmmm. That's a lot of computers.
Maybe my 6 switchers aren't quite so impressive after all...
Brother Mugga
Simple brain fart
If he had changed the word "Year" to "Quarter", his statement would have been correct.
However, his calculation then would have been irrelevant.
Since he was comparing less than a month's pre-orders, times 12, and then comparing it to a figure that then relates to quarterly sales of all products. Now, in my opinion, that is still significant and telling. But not *that* telling.
Now if he had gathered figures for a year's worth of Tower sales alone, and compared that to 12 times the pre-order number, that would be interesting, but such statistics are hard to come by.
Jaedreth
If he had changed the word "Year" to "Quarter", his statement would have been correct.
However, his calculation then would have been irrelevant.
Since he was comparing less than a month's pre-orders, times 12, and then comparing it to a figure that then relates to quarterly sales of all products. Now, in my opinion, that is still significant and telling. But not *that* telling.
Now if he had gathered figures for a year's worth of Tower sales alone, and compared that to 12 times the pre-order number, that would be interesting, but such statistics are hard to come by.
Jaedreth
They can't be shipping...
Given that Apple just seeded a BETA of 10.2.7, which is the shipping OS for the G5's, I can't see how they can be shipping machines that rely on it, especially given manufacturing lead times, etc.
Given that Apple just seeded a BETA of 10.2.7, which is the shipping OS for the G5's, I can't see how they can be shipping machines that rely on it, especially given manufacturing lead times, etc.
Well the current seed if you read the details seem to be G4 specific hence the seed for the "general" release.
It could well be the G5 release has been completed. Not sure I'm not inside at apple. I still think they won't ship for some weeks yet to be honest.
Have pre ordered work for a reseller not heard a thing from Apple yet. Still looking at the our backorders see when mine disapears from it
It could well be the G5 release has been completed. Not sure I'm not inside at apple. I still think they won't ship for some weeks yet to be honest.
Have pre ordered work for a reseller not heard a thing from Apple yet. Still looking at the our backorders see when mine disapears from it
Re: Lucky Louisville, Ky...
Certainly several companies I have dealt with here (in the UK) only take the money when they actually deliver, but it doesn't seem to be an actual legal requirement, so it would seem that this is down to company policy. So that doesn't say much for Apple UK, then, does it?
PS Is it as hot as the devil's jockey shorts there in Gravesend? Certainly is in West London!
The one and only time I went to Gravesend, it certainly lived up (down?) to it's name! Mind you that was 20 years ago now.
Certainly several companies I have dealt with here (in the UK) only take the money when they actually deliver, but it doesn't seem to be an actual legal requirement, so it would seem that this is down to company policy. So that doesn't say much for Apple UK, then, does it?
PS Is it as hot as the devil's jockey shorts there in Gravesend? Certainly is in West London!
The one and only time I went to Gravesend, it certainly lived up (down?) to it's name! Mind you that was 20 years ago now.
Re: grrrrrreaaat....
I ordered a dual 1.25 with a 22" LCD right before the end of 2002 (for someone I support)
Apple did the same thing.. they kept pushing back the delivery date.
It turns out that they pushed the delivery date back because the 22" was already out of production. We didn't get one... they shipped out the 23" inch model for less when the display line up changed in the very beginning of 2003.
Maybe the channel is drying up and you'll get a new rev.
I ordered a dual 1.25 with a 22" LCD right before the end of 2002 (for someone I support)
Apple did the same thing.. they kept pushing back the delivery date.
It turns out that they pushed the delivery date back because the 22" was already out of production. We didn't get one... they shipped out the 23" inch model for less when the display line up changed in the very beginning of 2003.
Maybe the channel is drying up and you'll get a new rev.
Re: Re: Lucky Louisville, Ky...
This is the case in the UK (and Europe) as well. Trading Standards investigate this all the time, they also aren't allowed to make any money (ie. interest) from any pre-charge - it's not their money to profit from until they have shipped the item.
Apple (Education) has never charged me (in the UK) for anything that it hasn't already shipped, so I'd check with them.
This is the case in the UK (and Europe) as well. Trading Standards investigate this all the time, they also aren't allowed to make any money (ie. interest) from any pre-charge - it's not their money to profit from until they have shipped the item.
Apple (Education) has never charged me (in the UK) for anything that it hasn't already shipped, so I'd check with them.
Re: They can't be shipping...
A seed isn't the same as a "beta". A seed may well be declared gold master and be the very version that is installed.
I suspect that the seed is for last minute checking. Apple has, in the past, seeded something that 2 days later is released to the public. I can imagine that this is the case here too.
A seed isn't the same as a "beta". A seed may well be declared gold master and be the very version that is installed.
I suspect that the seed is for last minute checking. Apple has, in the past, seeded something that 2 days later is released to the public. I can imagine that this is the case here too.
Re: Re: They can't be shipping...
Yes, I agree. Seems that a lot of folks don't read the thread, they just post. As I said last night, the seed notes were directed at non-G5 machines. It didn't even mention G5. It only mentions updates to various i/o components.
Re: Re: Lucky Louisville, Ky...
Oh yes indeed; check it out on the BBC - we're officially the hottest place in Britain.
I put it down to the huge pall of greenhouse-like smog hanging over our fair town, but there you go.
For any Americans out there, you might like to know that Gravesend's claim to fame is that Pocahontus is buried here.
So bad, she keeled over upon sighting it.
Yup, I'm pretty proud of my hometown.
Brother Mugga
PS: Literary buffs might also like to know that Conrad's 'Heart of Darkness' (cineastes = 'Apocalypse Now' inspiration) is 'narrated' on a boat just off Gravesend.
So - killing Indian Princesses and psychologically disturbing novels...that's what we do best.
Oh yes indeed; check it out on the BBC - we're officially the hottest place in Britain.
I put it down to the huge pall of greenhouse-like smog hanging over our fair town, but there you go.
For any Americans out there, you might like to know that Gravesend's claim to fame is that Pocahontus is buried here.
So bad, she keeled over upon sighting it.
Yup, I'm pretty proud of my hometown.
Brother Mugga
PS: Literary buffs might also like to know that Conrad's 'Heart of Darkness' (cineastes = 'Apocalypse Now' inspiration) is 'narrated' on a boat just off Gravesend.
So - killing Indian Princesses and psychologically disturbing novels...that's what we do best.
Re: Re: Re: Lucky Louisville, Ky...
(in best johnny carson voice): that is some weird wild stuff
Originally posted by Brother Mugga
For any Americans out there, you might like to know that Gravesend's claim to fame is that Pocahontus is buried here.
So bad, she keeled over upon sighting it.
Yup, I'm pretty proud of my hometown.
Brother Mugga
PS: Literary buffs might also like to know that Conrad's 'Heart of Darkness' (cineastes = 'Apocalypse Now' inspiration) is 'narrated' on a boat just off Gravesend.
So - killing Indian Princesses and psychologically disturbing novels...that's what we do best.
(in best johnny carson voice): that is some weird wild stuff
The China Syndrome
jbomber!
Hi!
Brother Mugga
PS: Right, I'm now going to attempt to sleep without melting into the sheets...what's it like in NY?
jbomber!
Hi!
Brother Mugga
PS: Right, I'm now going to attempt to sleep without melting into the sheets...what's it like in NY?
Re: The China Syndrome
Hey Brother,
It's been weird the last couple days. Wake up and it's blazing hot sun, not a cloud in the sky. Then suddenly it's Armageddon- thunder, lightning, fire, brimstone, sheets and sheets of rain. Very confusing. Here in Chelsea, it's got all the tiny little dogs in a tizzy.
Hey Brother,
It's been weird the last couple days. Wake up and it's blazing hot sun, not a cloud in the sky. Then suddenly it's Armageddon- thunder, lightning, fire, brimstone, sheets and sheets of rain. Very confusing. Here in Chelsea, it's got all the tiny little dogs in a tizzy.
Re: Re: But what is a 'Macintosh "unit"'?
So, amongst the PowerMac line, we have (reportedly) 65,000 dual-proc 2.0GHz G5's in a month, which would yield a quarterly result of 195,000 ... which is resoundingly better than the entire PowerMac lineup (156k units) in the past quarter (although, this is comparing different quarters too, so ...) Add the 1.6 and 1.8 figures, and this could be a very nice quarter for the PowerMac line.
Of course, not nearly as nice a quarter as the last several years have been filled with bad quarters, but at least an improvement from recent history.
So, amongst the PowerMac line, we have (reportedly) 65,000 dual-proc 2.0GHz G5's in a month, which would yield a quarterly result of 195,000 ... which is resoundingly better than the entire PowerMac lineup (156k units) in the past quarter (although, this is comparing different quarters too, so ...) Add the 1.6 and 1.8 figures, and this could be a very nice quarter for the PowerMac line.
Of course, not nearly as nice a quarter as the last several years have been filled with bad quarters, but at least an improvement from recent history.
G5 ordered today: 7-10 week est. ship
I finally ordered at Walnut Creek, CA today: the G5 with Dual 2 GHz processors. I would NOT take dual 1.8 at lower price! I want screamin' speed!!! No G5's today in Apple Store Walnut Creek.
I debated ordering right now and previously had ordered and then cancelled my order because I worry about defects or instability in this early a release. I WAS planning to wait until Feb-March when I think price will drop, bugs be worked out, and perhaps speed bumped up. How do you all feel about ordering immediately upon release?
By the way....I DID talk to a MAC employee who told me that G5 machines are being used within Apple co. right now by employees and all users have reported them to be great with no problems. That actually caused me to go ahead and order right away since I can't STAND to wait until early next year. But...any opinions out there about quality of a machine on first relase?
Heavy PhotoShop User
I finally ordered at Walnut Creek, CA today: the G5 with Dual 2 GHz processors. I would NOT take dual 1.8 at lower price! I want screamin' speed!!! No G5's today in Apple Store Walnut Creek.
I debated ordering right now and previously had ordered and then cancelled my order because I worry about defects or instability in this early a release. I WAS planning to wait until Feb-March when I think price will drop, bugs be worked out, and perhaps speed bumped up. How do you all feel about ordering immediately upon release?
By the way....I DID talk to a MAC employee who told me that G5 machines are being used within Apple co. right now by employees and all users have reported them to be great with no problems. That actually caused me to go ahead and order right away since I can't STAND to wait until early next year. But...any opinions out there about quality of a machine on first relase?
Heavy PhotoShop User
me too
Hello,
I just wanted to let you guys know that I posted an order the day the g5 was announced with an estimated ETA of 8/29. However, Apple did not charge my credit card because they had not received authorization from my bank due to the current spending limit ( I purposely left my balance low so that Apple would contact me upon shipping with this failure). I was told a month ago that Apple would contact me again when my order was ready to ship so they could get me to contact my bank and upgrade the spending limit. Well they contacted me today saying that my computer is about to be built and that in 7 to 10 working days, I should receive a request for credit card authorization, upon which, the balance will be deducted from my bank. I remain skeptical but this was highly unusual as I received a phone call from an apple representative on a personal managerial update. Any of you have a similar situation?
Hello,
I just wanted to let you guys know that I posted an order the day the g5 was announced with an estimated ETA of 8/29. However, Apple did not charge my credit card because they had not received authorization from my bank due to the current spending limit ( I purposely left my balance low so that Apple would contact me upon shipping with this failure). I was told a month ago that Apple would contact me again when my order was ready to ship so they could get me to contact my bank and upgrade the spending limit. Well they contacted me today saying that my computer is about to be built and that in 7 to 10 working days, I should receive a request for credit card authorization, upon which, the balance will be deducted from my bank. I remain skeptical but this was highly unusual as I received a phone call from an apple representative on a personal managerial update. Any of you have a similar situation?
Possible Verification
I think I can verify that the charge is simply a preapproval charge. I recently checked on the last few transactions to my credit card, and I discovered that there were two charges from Apple in the amount of $59.99 each. The two G5 orders I have in are for two completely different configurations, so I would guess that these $60 charges are just to make sure that the credit card information is still correct (cards can easily expire or change over two months).
As an aside, I placed my two orders the day after the keynote. Later!
I think I can verify that the charge is simply a preapproval charge. I recently checked on the last few transactions to my credit card, and I discovered that there were two charges from Apple in the amount of $59.99 each. The two G5 orders I have in are for two completely different configurations, so I would guess that these $60 charges are just to make sure that the credit card information is still correct (cards can easily expire or change over two months).
As an aside, I placed my two orders the day after the keynote. Later!
Re: Re: Re: Lucky Louisville, Ky...
Literary buffs might also note that Conrad, considered a major english novelist was actually born in the Ukraine , in what is now part of Poland. Didn't speak english 'til he was about 15, I believe.
Sorry to waffle on, OT.
G5's ROCK!
(Had to make SOME reference to the thread in question!)
NM!
Originally posted by Brother Mugga
Oh yes indeed; check it out on the BBC - we're officially the hottest place in Britain.
I put it down to the huge pall of greenhouse-like smog hanging over our fair town, but there you go.
For any Americans out there, you might like to know that Gravesend's claim to fame is that Pocahontus is buried here.
So bad, she keeled over upon sighting it.
Yup, I'm pretty proud of my hometown.
Brother Mugga
PS: Literary buffs might also like to know that Conrad's 'Heart of Darkness' (cineastes = 'Apocalypse Now' inspiration) is 'narrated' on a boat just off Gravesend.
So - killing Indian Princesses and psychologically disturbing novels...that's what we do best.
Literary buffs might also note that Conrad, considered a major english novelist was actually born in the Ukraine , in what is now part of Poland. Didn't speak english 'til he was about 15, I believe.
Sorry to waffle on, OT.
G5's ROCK!
(Had to make SOME reference to the thread in question!)
NM!