sviato
macrumors 68020
My friend's dad is like 55 and won't get an iPhone because the screen is too small.
Apart from that, I'm looking forward to the S4 but think this feature will be a battery draining gimmick.
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Galaxy S IV will have eye scrolling
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My friend's dad is like 55 and won't get an iPhone because the screen is too small.
Apart from that, I'm looking forward to the S4 but think this feature will be a battery draining gimmick.
onthecouchagain
macrumors 604
I love how the detractors are saying eye scrolling feature is useless because of things like sunglasses, etc.
Yet, the latest rumor points to the iPhone 5S to have finger-print security sensor (which I think is really cool) but the same people fail to worry about gloves or bandaids or the like...
Anytime the competition does something new, there's so much concern and worry (just look at the whole wireless charging thread), but when Apple tries new things, even things that aren't widely adopted or things that have their own hiccups and growing pains, Apple is ushering in new technology.
Yet, the latest rumor points to the iPhone 5S to have finger-print security sensor (which I think is really cool) but the same people fail to worry about gloves or bandaids or the like...
Anytime the competition does something new, there's so much concern and worry (just look at the whole wireless charging thread), but when Apple tries new things, even things that aren't widely adopted or things that have their own hiccups and growing pains, Apple is ushering in new technology.
Rolling out technology that half-works and is unusable and not needed even in the long run is not innovating. That's the huge difference between Samsung and Apple. If Apple releases something, it's really ready for production and is thoroughly thought out so it makes our life easier (Maps is an exception, being Jobs' personal vendetta)
Not something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMKvWvrffrM
Not something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMKvWvrffrM
ReanimationN
macrumors 6502a
Those concerns are going to differ based on your environment. They're both valid, but they're going to affect different groups of people. Living in Australia, you're more likely to be using sunglasses all year round, with very few people using gloves (bar in winter in the southern states). In Canada, you're going to get a lot more people wearing gloves all the time and less people wearing sunglasses year round.
Although you generally have to take your gloves off to use a smartphone anyway. 😉 (Which is horrible in the North American winter- my fingers would go numb using my 3GS in Calgary in winter.)
Dr McKay
macrumors 601
No I mean where did you get the figure that 95% of people can't see the difference between 720p and 1080p? Those sources only mention 1 reviewer who can't tell the difference.
MRU
macrumors Penryn
MobileMe with iDisk was great for many of us, and we still lament its supposed superior which we can not file manage or store anything we want or use as a server for easy web hosting...
Do Not Disturb works perfectly for me...
As for
Passbook works- just the three apps mean your poor selection of stuff make it utterly redundant.
Ping was a total failure....
Newton - a remarkable device but hindered by technology available and the year it was released... But without it arguably we wouldn't have the iPhone and the iPads.
Sounds like a rumor only.
It's interesting, but how well would it work?
Would it be frustratingly annoying or actually useful?
Is it like reading a book and having someone constantly moving the book up and down to annoy you?
When I read a book, I don't really move my book up and down. Only my eyes move.
It's interesting, but how well would it work?
Would it be frustratingly annoying or actually useful?
Is it like reading a book and having someone constantly moving the book up and down to annoy you?
When I read a book, I don't really move my book up and down. Only my eyes move.
I only speak for me when I say this, but it seems to me that Apple tends to introduce things that will either be used or not used (like Passbook), whereas Samsung introduces all of these cutting edge new features like Smart Stay and eye scrolling (rumour at this point); things that just about everybody can and will use, as long as it works well.
I criticise it because it's something I would definitely use so long as it works. If an accidental flicker of the eye or a misread glance is going to completely scroll the page from where you're reading, then the feature is a failure. It has to work well otherwise it's going to be an annoyance. Nobody is going to say "oh wow, great, wonderful" if it's going to be more annoying than the current scrolling system.
I can't think of any UI enhancements that Apple has made where you would have to worry about wrong or misinterpreted input from the user, but Samsung is bringing in these kinds of features all the time, and it needs to work well.
So far, I think they've done a great job with making the gestures and Smart Stay very reliable, and I'm sure the eye scrolling will be great too; it doesn't stop me wondering what will happen when you look at your phone in the dark, or if you accidentally glance at a scrolling hotspot, or if it thinks you've glanced at a scrolling hotspot but you actually haven't.
Edit:
Also, the guy that got shot down in flames earlier in the thread for commenting on battery life has a valid point by the way. Smart Stay only uses the front facing camera very briefly every time the screen is about to time out, but this would need the front camera on all the time, unless it's only going to check every so often, but then there will be a delay between when your eyes get to the bottom of the page and when it scrolls.
Oohara
macrumors 68040
I don't mind if some of the new stuff they try out isn't 100% reliable, as long as it's something that can be turned off and that I don't have to rely on.
Actually it makes me enthusiastic about Samsung that they're at least trying to move things forward. And I think at this point they're popular enough that this is becoming the general opinion about them: Samsung is progressive, Apple is stale. This is the image they're reinforcing with yet more new stuff like this, and they're right to strike while the iron is hot.
I'm by no means an Apple hater, but I find myself surprised at having gone in one year from loathing Samsung products and finding stuff like the the Note/S-pen to be cheap unreliable gimmicks to something that I'm actually interested in buying and trying out for myself.
Will this rumored eye scrolling thing be tested to the tee and 100% reliable and useful when it comes out? Probably not, but it doesn't have to be.
I agree that Samsung is trying to drive things forward, but where we disagree is that it's okay to release features that may or may not work.
I'm sure Apple is trying out all sorts of stuff in their R&D department, but a lot of it isn't ready for primetime and isn't released until it is.
It's not okay to release a feature that's unreliable simply because they're "trying something new" - Samsung should keep those features to themselves and test privately until they're stable enough.
So far, I think they have done this and I have no reason to doubt that any more features they release will work just as well; I'm just pointing out *potential* issues I see with it.
Oohara
macrumors 68040
Ya, I made it sound a bit like you thought they'd been releasing all useless features so far, apologies for that. However I will continue to disagree with you in general on this 🙂 And it will be interesting to see how things develop.
I think my stance is largely based on my personal frustration with Apple and the iPhone at the moment. I wish their stuff would feel cutting edge again, not just better looking and more stable. But here I am, about to transfer the remaining year of my 2-year iPhone plan to a relative so I can get a new plan with a Note 2...exactly the thing I thought I'd never do lol.
I kind of just want to put both companies on my lap and spank them. Apple - do something about your stale ****ing OS!! and Sammy - hire some ****ing competent designers already!!
Meanwhile I'll take this wonky new eye scrolling feature or whatever, no matter if it works well, just to have something new happen dammit 😛
The nerd in me wants new things too, but the consumer in me just wants something that works and is reliable and stable 😛
With the iPhone, yeah it's a bit boring and hasn't changed much over the years, but it's very reliable and everything works pretty much out of the box. My phone is backed up to the cloud every night.
Android can do pretty much everything the iPhone can (and a whole lot more) but it requires setting up.
In the past, those sources have cited an informal number between 90 and 95%. Most instances of the number have been in podcasts, not white papers or articles. The charts I linked to assume average eyesight.
Dude, I'm as big an Apple guy as the next one, but I can't believe you said - presumably with a straight face - that Apple doesn't release something until it's ready. Have you forgotten Siri and Maps? Siri was - and is - listed as a beta product. Maps got execs FIRED! Remember Scott Forstall?
Siri works great for me, but you've taken my post out of context.
I was referring to changes to the user interface (which is what this entire thread is about - a UI change). Apple wouldn't dream of bringing out an experimental way of controlling the UI.
Dr McKay
macrumors 601
But still, its not just about pixels or watching movies. 1080 will still give you more viewing area in the web browser and maps etc so its not pointless.
Looks good, but in somewhat-usual Samsung style it appears to be a half-assed feature, much like 'double tap to top.' It should be OS wide.
Your meaning here is unclear. I can see how a larger screen gives you more viewing area, but 1920x1080 pixels on the same size screen that most can't see the pixels on already?
Can you tease out your meaning a little more?
mattopotamus
macrumors Pentium
ok, so it does not follow your eyes. It just assumes you are reading something and will probably scroll at a certain speed. And lol and smart pause. Usually when I look away from my screen I just move my eyes....not my entire head.
The acceleration-based-on-face-angle feature seems like it does follow you, at least to an extent.