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Galaxy Tab vs. iPad
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Simple question...do we have competition or no??...any why?
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Yes, but reactive competition that's trying to polyfilla the technical gaps left by iPad by cutting corners elsewhere.
Is this fanboyism or have you used one? The reviews I've read are sometimes positive, sometimes negative.
The Tab's main problem is it's a product designed around a collection of knee-jerk complaints about another product.
Crosbie said:
I couldn't have put it better. The Tab looks good but it doesn't have the polish of an iOS device. Flash makes it slow and battery hogging, and the screen is just a bit too small for my liking.
PRICE PRICE PRICE
There is a gigantic market out there for tablets that are not high end premium priced items.
Unlike a computer (let's say a PC) which you could buy for the same price as one iPad and the whole family could use for everything, the iPad has been designed by Apple as a 1 person device.
They could have given it user accounts (and I know some people want that) so that your kids can play and have their own apps and emails etc, without accessing the parents items.
But they've not made the iPad in that way, it's really currently a 1 person device.
Take a typical family with a home to pay for and bills and kids costs, the iPad could well be a luxury that they can't afford.
But they may still like a device like it.
Sure, a cheaper device may not be built quite as nice and perhaps may be lacking a little UI smoothness and polish, but it may still offer most/all/more of the actual functionality.
Perhaps people who drive Mercedes or Jaguars might not understand why anyone would select an inferior (in their eyes) build/performing/spec Ford device, but there is still a GIANT market for Ford devices.
In the UK in the next few weeks and UK'd largest electrical/computer chain stores will be launching their own Advent Tablets for half the price of the iPad with the same screen size.
http://www.eurodroid.com/2010/10/dixons-group-launching-two-advent-android-tablets-this-november/
They are also putting together their own additional app stores.
http://www.reghardware.com/2010/11/05/pc_world_currys_app_store/
I'm not in any way saying they will be better than iPads, but that does mean there could not be a massive market for more affordable products that still do a reasonable job. And they will play Flash too
There is a gigantic market out there for tablets that are not high end premium priced items.
Unlike a computer (let's say a PC) which you could buy for the same price as one iPad and the whole family could use for everything, the iPad has been designed by Apple as a 1 person device.
They could have given it user accounts (and I know some people want that) so that your kids can play and have their own apps and emails etc, without accessing the parents items.
But they've not made the iPad in that way, it's really currently a 1 person device.
Take a typical family with a home to pay for and bills and kids costs, the iPad could well be a luxury that they can't afford.
But they may still like a device like it.
Sure, a cheaper device may not be built quite as nice and perhaps may be lacking a little UI smoothness and polish, but it may still offer most/all/more of the actual functionality.
Perhaps people who drive Mercedes or Jaguars might not understand why anyone would select an inferior (in their eyes) build/performing/spec Ford device, but there is still a GIANT market for Ford devices.
In the UK in the next few weeks and UK'd largest electrical/computer chain stores will be launching their own Advent Tablets for half the price of the iPad with the same screen size.
http://www.eurodroid.com/2010/10/dixons-group-launching-two-advent-android-tablets-this-november/
They are also putting together their own additional app stores.
http://www.reghardware.com/2010/11/05/pc_world_currys_app_store/
I'm not in any way saying they will be better than iPads, but that does mean there could not be a massive market for more affordable products that still do a reasonable job. And they will play Flash too
The device is made out of plastic, it's 7" vs. 9.7", it's running an operating system that the developers warned was not meant for tablets, and Samsung is incredibly good at not, or at least not quickly or properly, updating their devices for new Android releases. (Froyo in the Netherlands was released for the Galaxy S TODAY, and not over-the-air but via a crippled and horrible, Windows-only program to update it.)
No, the competition is coming soon and might even surpass the iPad (in one way, multiple, or all), given time, but the Tab is an inferior product that feels more like a project doomed to fail than a worthy competitor.
No, the competition is coming soon and might even surpass the iPad (in one way, multiple, or all), given time, but the Tab is an inferior product that feels more like a project doomed to fail than a worthy competitor.
I was going to post this as a retort to Piggie, but actually the Vega reviews quite well:
http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2010/10/14/advent-vega-review-budget-tablet-first-impressions/
Don't think the widescreen form factor is right though.
http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2010/10/14/advent-vega-review-budget-tablet-first-impressions/
Don't think the widescreen form factor is right though.
I went to buy a galaxy tab today as I gave my iPad to my 4 year old son ( could never get him off it ) and I wanted something different but when I went to the shop to buy and test one I could not make myself buy it. They had one setup next to a iPad and some samsung tablet and they was both out classed by the iPad. The iPad was so much faster and had a much better quality feel and the galaxy tab was £70 more than the 16g WiFi iPad. The only thing I thought was better than the iPad was the size, I do think that 7" is a better tablet size for being out and about. So I guess you know what I went home with? Another iPad 
Yeah, not very excited about Galaxy Tab.
7" is more of a media viewing size. I use the iPad for way too much input, so I really need a tablet I can type comfortably on for hours.
Android needs a good 6+ months to get their tablet version OS out, get feedback, and incorporate that feed back into the product. (Like Apple did with iOS 3.x and 4.x on iPad.)
If you're going to make a plastic 7" tablet with an open source operating system and only a handful of "tablet specific" apps... It better be cheaper than iPad.
Maybe the Galaxy Tab "2" will be a better contender.
I have my hopes pinned on HP. An HP engineered, high quality slate with a 10" screen running webOS would give Apple some serious competition. HP makes so much Hospital, and Enterprise gear, they could also compete in areas Apple is just now getting into.
We seriously need a couple solid entries into this market to keep up the pace of innovation.
7" is more of a media viewing size. I use the iPad for way too much input, so I really need a tablet I can type comfortably on for hours.
Android needs a good 6+ months to get their tablet version OS out, get feedback, and incorporate that feed back into the product. (Like Apple did with iOS 3.x and 4.x on iPad.)
If you're going to make a plastic 7" tablet with an open source operating system and only a handful of "tablet specific" apps... It better be cheaper than iPad.
Maybe the Galaxy Tab "2" will be a better contender.
I have my hopes pinned on HP. An HP engineered, high quality slate with a 10" screen running webOS would give Apple some serious competition. HP makes so much Hospital, and Enterprise gear, they could also compete in areas Apple is just now getting into.
We seriously need a couple solid entries into this market to keep up the pace of innovation.
No I don't think it is as good a product as the iPad. The only rea
Advantage it has is Flash, and gaining that is hardly worth losing all the other benefits of the iPad.
The most glaring issue is the screen size. At seven inches, the screen is substantially smaller than the iPad. The device is simply too small to really offer any benefits over the smart phones most people who might buy this thing already have. The smaller screen means that many of the intuitive multipane layouts we see in iPad apps won't be as easy or useful. Even though these layouts are technical possible on the os, they would seem to get in the way. It also doesn't help that all apps available on the device will be identical to the phone versions for a while.
The iPad is also nice because the large screen allows for an almost full size keyboard.
Advantage it has is Flash, and gaining that is hardly worth losing all the other benefits of the iPad.
The most glaring issue is the screen size. At seven inches, the screen is substantially smaller than the iPad. The device is simply too small to really offer any benefits over the smart phones most people who might buy this thing already have. The smaller screen means that many of the intuitive multipane layouts we see in iPad apps won't be as easy or useful. Even though these layouts are technical possible on the os, they would seem to get in the way. It also doesn't help that all apps available on the device will be identical to the phone versions for a while.
The iPad is also nice because the large screen allows for an almost full size keyboard.
How does "Flash makes it slow and battery hogging" exactly? Flash doesn't make any of my computers, Mac or PC, slow or do anything to battery life. Let's see some actual proof.
Beyond that, I've owned 7" tablets in the past and they work fine plus this has an HDMI output. Non-issue. If performance is good, it looks like a nice tablet and, as mentioned, a good deal.
Wow. Really? There is tons of proof that Flash slows down both Android phones and Macs. Every article or review I have read about Flash on Andriod says it is often slow and kills battery. And a major review of the new MacBook Air showed a 30%+ battery life reduction with Flash. I think a like to it was posted on the main page here.
Also, if it is smaller than an iPad at the same or higher cost, how is it a "good deal" exactly?
Edit: lol. aaquib beat me to it with the link.
If you think flash does NOT kill laptop batteries then you are quite mistaken. I challenge you to watch a flash video for as long as possible, then watch html5 and see how long it lasts. Also, one of them will run much cooler. I'll let you guess which one.
Whole point of flash is pointless on Galaxy Tab because it blocks Hulu. I mean what the hell...
Nvm the gaming. I need flash to watch videos on the web and Hulu is blocked. I watch videos from two websites and they are hulu and youtube.
It is still not 100% flash supported, so it really doesn't mean much to me.
Nvm the gaming. I need flash to watch videos on the web and Hulu is blocked. I watch videos from two websites and they are hulu and youtube.
It is still not 100% flash supported, so it really doesn't mean much to me.
It isn't competition for the iPad; it has less battery life, a smaller screen, an OS that isn't "really" optimised for a slate, and it costs just as much.
I think the color nook is just a terrible idea. E-Ink was the whole reason for buying a nook or kindle. Very disappointed by it.