gtx980 should be a fair bit faster, iirc it's more about equivalent to or better than a 1070 still, which is easily more powerful than 16".
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Gaming on 16 inch MacBook pro
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Made the decision to keep the Dell G3 connected to the LG C9 TV for gaming but installed Steam on the MBP 16 - runs Mac games really nicely.
has anyone figured out a way to avoid crashes on doom eternal while using the Red or Blue Jan drivers. The game will run at 60 fps then freeze and go to a black screen while audio plays. I could deal with it but it’s making the game unplayable on this one arena in level three
Hey guys, looking at a new laptop for work and play a few newer games. Work side isn’t too heavy. Mac because it works well with software needed for work.
2.6ghz 6 core i7 with the AMD 5500M 8gb
Or the
2.4ghz 8 core i9 with the AMD 5500M 8gb
Just wanna see what opinions are on if the 8core is worth the extra money
Cheers
2.6ghz 6 core i7 with the AMD 5500M 8gb
Or the
2.4ghz 8 core i9 with the AMD 5500M 8gb
Just wanna see what opinions are on if the 8core is worth the extra money
Cheers
For games, the 6core will be better. But if you paying this much for a macbook already, getting the 8 core will be better for the resale value.
Resale value has diminishing return. For example Plus size of iphones were $100 greater than the usual version. But on the second hand market, people don't care whether do you have 128gb of storage or Iphone 8 plus. And usually if you paid $100 to get greater storage, you will get +$10 to $20 on resale value. The same goes for the Plus version, when initially you spend more than $100, you are going to receive much more less than hundred.
For gaming no difference between the two. Only 2-4 FPS which is negligible. Also you don't need 5500m graphics for gaming. There is literally no difference between 5300m and 5500m in terms of gaming. It is only useful for 4k video editing and above 4k.
You might consider going MBP 13 for cheaper and win laptop on ryzen for gaming.
Because gaming at 96C degrees on MBP 16 is hard to be defined as gaming. It is rather a laptop with ability to game, but not intended for it. I mean it is physically uncomfortable to play on a hot and screaming laptop.
Or you could build custom PC for less than $1000, which will be 2x times better than MBP 16 at gaming.
In in the same boat looking to upgrade from a 2013 MacBook Pro 15 inch, to the new 16 inch MacBooks. While I can run some games on my current MacBook, I hate how hot it gets and the fans running so loud.
I have been exploring streaming game options; has anyone considered a PlayStation 4 to use exclusively for remote play to a MacBook?
I have been exploring streaming game options; has anyone considered a PlayStation 4 to use exclusively for remote play to a MacBook?
I just bought the i9-9880H/5500M model and it is better than I expected for gaming. In Windows, I can run Rocket League maxed out at native resolution with anti-aliasing and it runs at a rock-solid 60 FPS. It's obviously not the most demanding game, but it's no walk in the park either.
I've noted for my use gaming is solid and great with the i9/5500m. I -want- a hot eGPU to improve a few of my use cases but it's hard to justify as it's a lot of buggy problems with bootcamp when I get such good results with the built-in. It would help with battery cycles and allowing the CPU to fully boost, however. Still on the fence.
That's actually not quite right. The i7 is clocked higher, but each core is still slower than the lower clocked i9 cores.
I'm taking delivery of an i9/16GB/5500m-4GB/1tb model in a couple of days. Since the GPU is quite a bit more powerful than my PC laptop (1050 Ti), I'll probably be using it for Windows gaming. I've seen some reference to Red and Blue drivers; can someone tell me what the difference is and where I can get them? I assume they're not standard Apple supplied Bootcamp drivers.
I also saw someone claim that the 5500M and 5300M perform almost identically. That seems unlikely. Does anyone have any benchmarks showing this? It'd be a shame if I wasted money on the extra GPU horsepower.
I also saw someone claim that the 5500M and 5300M perform almost identically. That seems unlikely. Does anyone have any benchmarks showing this? It'd be a shame if I wasted money on the extra GPU horsepower.
The drivers are at https://www.bootcampdrivers.com
The 5500M really is for apps that require the 8GB VRAM, such as game dev, video editing etc.
Since no game really needs 8GB of VRAM until you get to higher resolutions (e.g. 4k), and since you won't be able to run many modern games (if any) at 4k on the 5500M, the 8GB is a bit of a waste if all you're doing is gaming.
That's the long and short of it anyway. Doing game dev I really feel the benefit of the 8GB, but certainly not when playing a game at 1440P (I use an eGPU for games).
The 5500M really is for apps that require the 8GB VRAM, such as game dev, video editing etc.
Since no game really needs 8GB of VRAM until you get to higher resolutions (e.g. 4k), and since you won't be able to run many modern games (if any) at 4k on the 5500M, the 8GB is a bit of a waste if all you're doing is gaming.
That's the long and short of it anyway. Doing game dev I really feel the benefit of the 8GB, but certainly not when playing a game at 1440P (I use an eGPU for games).
Gaming is mostly what I'll be doing with the GPU, but I will most likely be doing some video editing in DaVinci (probably 1080p). As it happens, I got the 4GB 5500M so the money may not have been wasted after all. I would've gotten the 8GB, but your options are limited when buying a refurb. I may try to migrate my Vega 56 from my old cheesegrater to an enclosure, but the performance penalty may not be worth it.
I did find some Youtubers claiming that the 5500M only performed about 5% - 10% better in games. I suspect that this is due to the 5300M and 5500M having similar thermal limits placed on them. I did find one video where someone took the time to configure Bootcamp with Throttlestop and Macs Fan Control.
I was thinking about 5500M but eventually I decided it isn't powerful enough to pay the price. I'm gaming mostly on console and use computer only for RTS and some other mouse and KB only games. If 5300M won't one day meet my gaming needs, I think I'll build some small tower and use Steam to stream games to my Mac.
The biggest issue honestly guys is the motion blur. Seriously. The hardware is excellent on this machine and I honestly love every single bit of it EXCEPT the screen response time. It’s so slow and much slower then pre 2016 Touch Bar MBP that in my opinion it’s unusable for gaming. I literally had an unbelievable deal on my computer retail was 4099 before tax and I paid no lie 2985 tax included on my machine and returned it within a few days because the motion blur was that significant. It’s really the area Apple needs to improve upon moving forward. Everything else is literally spot on though. Any else share the same opinion?
@BuCkDoG Honestly, ghosting (or motion blur) has never been an issue for me, even on some of the first LCDs to hit the market. Do you know what the actual specs are on the 16" MBP's screen response time are? I sincerely doubt that it's worse than some of the crappy eMachines monitors I've used.
EDIT: Found this post about the MBP's screen response times:
It has about a 54ms GTG response time, which is fairly bad compared to a gaming monitor. On the other hand, my current PC laptop has a 48ms GTG response time, and I have no problem playing games on it. Of course, I tend to play action RPGs rather than FPS games, so YMMV.
EDIT: Found this post about the MBP's screen response times:
It has about a 54ms GTG response time, which is fairly bad compared to a gaming monitor. On the other hand, my current PC laptop has a 48ms GTG response time, and I have no problem playing games on it. Of course, I tend to play action RPGs rather than FPS games, so YMMV.
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I think that has something to do about previous experience. Like i had no problems with Air's non-retina display. But after Retina it is hard to go back.
Response time is the same thing - if you owned and get used to gaming LCD display earlier in your life, then it will be eye catching problem on other non-gaming displays.
The issue I had was that it was really noticeable when I downloaded some FPS games like Counter Strike and an MMO in World of Warcraft that I used to play on my 2013 15” rMBP and I swear the blue was way worse on the 16” compared to the 15”. Like legit I returned this computer simply because of that blur or slow response time only. Everything else about this computer is fantastic so if apple decides to fix the response time and include WiFi 6 I will be all in.
Yeah the screen is horrible on the 16. I don't get the hype from reviews. I'm on my third Macbook. First one extreme blurr. Returned. Second one little less blurr but one USB-C port was loose. Returned. Third one has ghosting also.
I bought a new monitor, 165hz and it has been working quite ok.
I’m glad someone else agrees with me and I’m not just an Apple hater complaining about the latest and greatest. Motion blur aside, it really is an awesome laptop. But for me, it was too unusable for any side projects like gaming and for that high price of investment, it just wasn’t worth my money.
Yes I agree with you, for the price the screen should not have any ghosting like this. I had to make a compromise as I work in Logic pro some. So I had to get Mac os, this was the best option. But I have reported the screen issue to the support at least. If they don't hear any they won't change it
Yes I agree with you, for the price the screen should not have any ghosting like this. I had to make a compromise as I work in Logic pro some. So I had to get Mac os, this was the best option. But I have reported the screen issue to the support at least. If they don't hear any they won't change it
Agreed and I as well have reported the issue to support and hopefully they make changes in their next version!
Did anyone ever tried playing monster hunter world on it ?
I also play Dota 2, Assassin Greed, Apex Legends, Modern Welfare Warzone.
I just sold my ASUS Zephyrus GX701 with i7-9750H & RTX2070 as i need the MacOS for work but I do want to play some game and work on the MacBookPro when I free.
I also play Dota 2, Assassin Greed, Apex Legends, Modern Welfare Warzone.
I just sold my ASUS Zephyrus GX701 with i7-9750H & RTX2070 as i need the MacOS for work but I do want to play some game and work on the MacBookPro when I free.
I got my MacBook Pro in a few hours ago and decided to try out a game. In my case, I don't have any FPS games on the Mac side. But I went ahead and installed Elder Scrolls Online to see if I caught any ghosting. If I spun my avatar around quickly it seemed like I could catch just a bit of motion blur (even though I disabled it in the options.) But frankly I never would have caught it if I hadn't been looking for it. I guess it's like @ctjack says, and previous experience is important. I have been using a 144Hz 1ms panel for a couple of years, but the MBP still didn't put me off.
Next I'll install Bootcamp and try some 'real' shooters (off the top of my head, I have Ghost Recon Wildlands and Doom 2016.)
Next I'll install Bootcamp and try some 'real' shooters (off the top of my head, I have Ghost Recon Wildlands and Doom 2016.)