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Gaming on the new MBP 15"

dapork

dapork

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So I haven't really seen anything yet about gaming on the new 15", but I just saw this video:


Pretty disappointing. Especially that first game (Besieged), I was surprised this computer can't run it well I used to play games on my own powerbook that had detailed explosions, so I dunno what it is about newer games that are so demanding, and too much so for the new MBP...
 
What's your point? These aren't gaming laptops and only a fool would buy it for gaming. Also you could probably find a few expensive computers that don't play games well, unless it's a gaming computer...
 
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Besiege apparently has performance problems on a lot of machines. So it might not be the best game for comparison.
 
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Ok so Besieged wasn't so good. I don't know that game.

The other two seemed to run fairly well. Sure, it wasn't so good at 38XX x whatever (full retina), but considering most consoles don't even run at full 1080 is that really so disappointing?

I just don't understand people's obsession with picking some arbitrary/impossible standard then complaining the new MBP can't satisfy it. It's not magic, get over it already. Clinton lost, Brexit happened, Casey Neistat quit vlogging and carbs are fattening. The world isn't perfect sometimes.
 
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I see the OP has a few threads regarding mbp and gaming. Macbooks should be thought of as a tool. Yes it can run some games but that isn't the primary focus nore does anyone want it to be. Get yourself an xbox, that can play all sorts of games.
 
We all know Apple computers are terrible at gaming. The issue is that the AMD gpus used on the new Pros are lousy dumbed down version of their relatively successful 4xx series GPUs.

Other than Final Cut, what editing suites even utilize OpenGL?

Hopefully with the next refresh/update, Nvidia GPUs will be in place. The 1050/ti will be available and provides much better performance.
 
Ive just played WoW Legion, medium settings, via a tethering to my iPad and I was getting about 90ish FPS the entire time in a heroic and down to 75 FPS in a 20 man raid. Its may not play well on ultra settings, but Im incredibly happy that I have an ultrabook that will let me game casually on the go.
 
New_Mac_Smell said:
I see the OP has a few threads regarding mbp and gaming. Macbooks should be thought of as a tool. Yes it can run some games but that isn't the primary focus nore does anyone want it to be. Get yourself an xbox, that can play all sorts of games.
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this is why I got an xbox one S so i can play my fifa 17 and not on my MacBook
 
New_Mac_Smell said:
I see the OP has a few threads regarding mbp and gaming. Macbooks should be thought of as a tool. Yes it can run some games but that isn't the primary focus nore does anyone want it to be. Get yourself an xbox, that can play all sorts of games.
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I know it's meant to be used as a tool, I just want to do a little gaming on the side. I still plan to get either a rMBP or one of these new ones.

Exile714 said:
Ok so Besieged wasn't so good. I don't know that game.

The other two seemed to run fairly well. Sure, it wasn't so good at 38XX x whatever (full retina), but considering most consoles don't even run at full 1080 is that really so disappointing?

I just don't understand people's obsession with picking some arbitrary/impossible standard then complaining the new MBP can't satisfy it. It's not magic, get over it already. Clinton lost, Brexit happened, Casey Neistat quit vlogging and carbs are fattening. The world isn't perfect sometimes.
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Hey I'm not one of those perpetual critics though. I was just hoping that gaming reviews would've been more along the lines of "it's more capable than you think", since that seems to have been what happened in other areas.
 
dapork said:
I know it's meant to be used as a tool, I just want to do a little gaming on the side. I still plan to get either a rMBP or one of these new ones.
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In my mind, Apple shifted the Macbook Pro in two ways in 2016. Both hurt gaming prospects:
1) The Pro line has been made thinner, more portable, and more aesthetically pleasing. Internals reflect the change in heat and power requirements. This means lower overall performance per dollar spent, in comparison to thicker laptops, and desktops.
2) The Pro line became much more expensive this year, reducing price-to-performance even further. Extra money is going into the redesign, which has nothing to do with CPU/GPU improvements. The money is going into a new shell, bigger trackpad, touch bar, better screen, etc.

I am trying to shift almost completely away from gaming, and more toward productivity. The 15-inch appeals to be because of the screen real-estate, and overall power. The price, however, is absolutely ridiculous. At $3320 Canadian, with education discounts, I could get the slightly larger cache i7 processor, 512GB SSD, and 460 graphics.

I would've loved to see the Macbook Pro 15-inch come in at a lower price, with Intel Iris graphics as the only graphics. I don't want a 15-inch for more power, I just want a 15-inch for the bigger screen size.
 
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There aren't many gaming reviews out yet, but the few that I have found that mention gaming are usually on the 13" non-touchbar version since it's been out longer and they've had time to do a review. And, surprisingly the base 13 actually seems to handle quite a few different games on low and occasionally medium settings. So I would guess that the 15" with either of the dGPU's would handle it a lot better. Probably not at native resolution, but probably 1080p for sure without all the effects turned on. Just a guess though.
 
happyslayer said:
There aren't many gaming reviews out yet, but the few that I have found that mention gaming are usually on the 13" non-touchbar version since it's been out longer and they've had time to do a review. And, surprisingly the base 13 actually seems to handle quite a few different games on low and occasionally medium settings. So I would guess that the 15" with either of the dGPU's would handle it a lot better. Probably not at native resolution, but probably 1080p for sure without all the effects turned on. Just a guess though.
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Well, another problem is when someone tries to game at 4k resolution on a laptop. That's just stupid. Even my desktop graphics card has troubles with 4k, and I have a $220 dedicated graphics card that I purchased earlier this year.

Laptop gaming should be run at about 1920x1080.

Gaming culture has increasingly gotten... depressing. I play Hearthstone, Heroes of the Storm, and Overwatch (all Blizzard titles), but I find time wastes away, and I don't feel any happier at the end of an hour, or two, or four, or eight. Consoles seem much more appealing nowadays, since there's a much more inclusive social aspect available (multiplayer at a TV).
 
PaulWog said:
In my mind, Apple shifted the Macbook Pro in two ways in 2016. Both hurt gaming prospects:
1) The Pro line has been made thinner, more portable, and more aesthetically pleasing. Internals reflect the change in heat and power requirements. This means lower overall performance per dollar spent, in comparison to thicker laptops, and desktops.
2) The Pro line became much more expensive this year, reducing price-to-performance even further. Extra money is going into the redesign, which has nothing to do with CPU/GPU improvements. The money is going into a new shell, bigger trackpad, touch bar, better screen, etc.

I am trying to shift almost completely away from gaming, and more toward productivity. The 15-inch appeals to be because of the screen real-estate, and overall power. The price, however, is absolutely ridiculous. At $3320 Canadian, with education discounts, I could get the slightly larger cache i7 processor, 512GB SSD, and 460 graphics.

I would've loved to see the Macbook Pro 15-inch come in at a lower price, with Intel Iris graphics as the only graphics. I don't want a 15-inch for more power, I just want a 15-inch for the bigger screen size.
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I like the new MacBook as well. I think it will be perfect for using logic pro, and I like how light and compact it is. I will need some new accessories, one adaptor at least, a double headed USB key for data transfer. Plus I already know j can play two of the games i've been interested in: bioshock 3 and AC syndicate. I saw them played on a rmbp that is.

The pricing in greece is one of the worst there is. I think I'm going to go france where I think I can get a discount.
 
It is a solid bit of kit and gaming wise it destroys all previous MacBook pro's, whilst being a top notch business tool. And it's a quality bit of lightweight hardware. What more do you need to know.
 
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