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So what you're saying is there was no reason for you to post here at all sicne this thread isn't about work or xbox. Way to prove your point. :rolleyes:

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Here's one example of the HD3000 outperforming the 320M:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-3000.37948.0.html

Secondly, is that chart benchmarking on Windows 7 or OSX? This "person" is only pointing out some games do perform better under the Mac. I am not comparing Windows because obviously the 2010 Air smokes the 2011 in gaming performance.

Ah you're right. For some reason in L4D2 it trails behind which is unusual compared to other games. But there are many cases in which the 2011 performs poorly to the 2010 even when both are under OSX.
 

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No problem! I think the Intel chip is better optimized under OSX for newer games. I am hoping the next version of the 11" Air improves the gpu above the 320M specs.
 
I want to buy a shovel to hammer down these nails. The shorter one would be better than the longer one, right?
 
I want to buy a shovel to hammer down these nails. The shorter one would be better than the longer one, right?

I generally find some shovels to be more light weight then most hammers. Also some shovels can fold up making them much easier to carry. Not only that a shovel has other uses such as digging a hole, but in a pinch it could hammer those nails fine. Granted not as good as a hammer, but enough to suit my needs and wants.

To answer your question, the longer one will give you more force to hammer down the nails, but the shorter one is much more portable.


No problem! I think the Intel chip is better optimized under OSX for newer games. I am hoping the next version of the 11" Air improves the gpu above the 320M specs.

I'm hoping the 15 inch Macbook Pro Slim version has a dedicated GPU. Also it is highly likely that the 2012 MBA refresh with Ivy Bridge will beat out both the 320m and HD 3000.
 
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ahhh guys, i just woke up and 30 replies, thats pretty nice.


Well, i read the whole post and yes, i know the mba air 10/11' are not gaming machines, but then again, it's always nice if you can play some decent games in low to mid atleast (thats enough for me actually).

Yet again, I sometimes feel like i should sell this mba since in peru, the new ones are arriving in atleast 2 months. And thats because i actually think i may need autocad in a future, lets say 2 years maybe?
 
For serious gaming neither Mac is really an option and you are much better of with say a gaming desktop an alienware or an asus gaming laptop, and light gaming both are about the same while they are on par in some games, the 320 beats the 3000 in others and than the 3000 is different games like L4D
 
Think about the way you currently use your MBA. Where do you feel the bottleneck is? Do you use programs to tax the CPU to the max or are you using the GPU to the max? If the answer is latter then the 2011 model might not be for you. You will see next to no beneficial advantage after upgrading if all you do is web surf, email, stream videos, and office products. You might see a downgrade if you play games in addition to these uses. If you see yourself using AutoCAD in 2 years, then why upgrade now and not wait 2 years for the 2013 MBA which is sure to destroy the 2011 upgrade in all aspects?
 
pretty much, i guess i will get in 2 years a mba and imac for autocad, hope that by that time the mba may be more powerfull than a mbp because, damn, portability! haha
 
I'm actually excited for the new Thunderbolt ViDock external gpu enclosures they just announced. I have a GTX 580 I'd love to attach to the Air. Granted it's not entirely a portable solution but it certainly allows me to use the Air as a desktop replacement at my desk.
 
Call of Duty 4 on a new MBA 13" 4/256

I just bought the MBA 13 4/256, and I was wondering if anyone has tried to play this game on the new air's? Before I go and pay $50.00
 
Where the hell are people getting the information that the HD 3000 is still better then the 320m? Every review says that the CPU is roughly double in power, but the GPU is still behind in many ways.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4528/the-2011-macbook-air-11-13inch-review/11


http://www.macworld.com/article/161362/2011/07/macbookairbenchmarks.html#lsrc=twt_jsnell


OP: The 2010 is still superior if your main purpose, or at least the most that you tax your computer with, is gaming.

You're confused.

You're comparing the Pro's 320m scores to the Airs HD 3000 scores.

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HD 3000 Airs look better here.
 
What? Read all the charts.

The HD 3000 is also a bit slower than the GeForce 320M used in last year's MacBook Air, at least in games that aren't largely CPU bound (basically anything but Starcraft 2):
 

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What? Read all the charts.

Ok so they perform about the same with gaming. That's what I conclude. The 2010 is better by 1-5 fps if that, in certain situations, which is unnoticeable.

However the new Air gives you rapejob CPU performance for everything else.

Same gaming experience, much better CPU performance.

If you're getting an Air solely to play games on, then it doesn't matter which you get.

But then again I guess I'm referring to the i7 Airs ;/
 
I thought that too and decided to run some real world tests. My 2010 11 inch 1.6 GHz 4 Gigs of RAM 128 GB HD vs 2011 11 inch i5 4 Gigs of RAM and 128GB HD. The test is here:

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/13014855/

But you can see that the difference is a bit more then 1-5 fps. The first being a 2010 and the second being the 2011. Benchmarks in my opinion only give a partial picture.
 

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I thought that too and decided to run some real world tests. My 2010 11 inch 1.6 GHz 4 Gigs of RAM 128 GB HD vs 2011 11 inch i5 4 Gigs of RAM and 128GB HD. The test is here:

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/13014855/

But you can see that the difference is a bit more then 1-5 fps. The first being a 2010 and the second being the 2011. Benchmarks in my opinion only give a partial picture.

Just an observation, the 2nd picture contains a fairly vulgar sentence on that chat box. Looks like a naughty GMOTD by Holykmoly from Elune server =O
 
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