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ericgtr12

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I recently decided to upgrade from the 8 Plus to the X and overall the experience was pretty good but decided to return it at 14 days. Loved the deep colors and contrast, it's snappy and intuitive, the gestures were much easier to learn than I thought it may be.

However, the main issue for me was Face ID and switching between apps while in the car. Yes, I know we "shouldn't" be using it in the car but let's be realistic, everyone does it at least for navigation or answering a call, to me this is much like changing the radio station or turning the volume up or down.

When trying to navigate with GPS and getting a phone call, switching between them is cumbersome at best with gesture control and when you throw having to lean in for Face ID it seemed so much more dangerous, at least to me. Touch ID and using the home button to quickly and easily navigate through the screens is just easier. That and the size of the 8 Plus is still quite a bit larger than the X and far more readable, at least to my older eyes.

All that said, it's a great phone and Face ID/gesture control is the future, when I absolutely have to I'll learn to deal with it.
 
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Agree with the issues you laid out. I haven’t tried it yet, but apparently iOS 12 fixes some of the clunkiness of the UI when using navigation. I think Face ID is solid as is and I prefer it to the home button, but it can definitely be better. Luckily technology progresss and I’m expecting Face ID 2 to be similar to the jump from Touch ID 1 to 2. Then most people will move on.
 
I recently decided to upgrade from the 8 Plus to the X and overall the experience was pretty good but decided to return it at 14 days. Loved the deep colors and contrast, it's snappy and intuitive, the gestures were much easier to learn than I thought it may be.

However, the main issue for me was Face ID and switching between apps while in the car. Yes, I know we "shouldn't" be using it in the car but let's be realistic, everyone does it at least for navigation or answering a call, to me this is much like changing the radio station or turning the volume up or down.

When trying to navigate with GPS and getting a phone call, switching between them is cumbersome at best with gesture control and when you throw having to lean in for Face ID it seemed so much more dangerous, at least to me. Touch ID and using the home button to quickly and easily navigate through the screens is just easier. That and the size of the 8 Plus is still quite a bit larger than the X and far more readable, at least to my older eyes.

All that said, it's a great phone and Face ID/gesture control is the future, when I absolutely have to I'll learn to deal with it.

I had the X and returned it for an 8 non Plus. The main reason was I couldn’t use the X 1 handed like I can use the 6/7/8 chassis.
 
I had the X and returned it for an 8 non Plus. The main reason was I couldn’t use the X 1 handed like I can use the 6/7/8 chassis.

Same, I had the X but went back to the 8+. But for me, a week later, I went back to the X and have been happy for months now. Looking forward to the X+ in September.
 
However, the main issue for me was Face ID and switching between apps while in the car. Yes, I know we "shouldn't" be using it in the car but let's be realistic, everyone does it at least for navigation or answering a call, to me this is much like changing the radio station or turning the volume up or down.

All fun and games til the day you turn into your own street and hit your own kid or wife or mother father etc

 
My only issue with my 10 is the fact that I cannot get siri to respond to send texts like i use to with my se. I just know I have to have a setting wrong. For this reason and this reason only I miss the home button
 
My only issue with my 10 is the fact that I cannot get siri to respond to send texts like i use to with my se. I just know I have to have a setting wrong. For this reason and this reason only I miss the home button

Allow Siri when locked?
 
Yes, I know we "shouldn't" be using it in the car but let's be realistic, everyone does it at least for navigation or answering a call, to me this is much like changing the radio station or turning the volume up or down.

When trying to navigate with GPS and getting a phone call, switching between them is cumbersome at best with gesture control and when you throw having to lean in for Face ID it seemed so much more dangerous, at least to me. Touch ID and using the home button to quickly and easily navigate through the screens is just easier. That and the size of the 8 Plus is still quite a bit larger than the X and far more readable, at least to my older eyes.
Perhaps it's not so much the X and FaceID, but your process while driving?

My wife is the only call I will answer when driving and she is one of two people whose ringtones are different. I may check a text message notification on my lockscreen, but only at a stoplight and only to see who it came from. And if the stoplight is short I don't check at all. I take care of any of that when I get where I'm going.

If I'm using GPS Nav, it's my iPad sitting on a stand in my cupholder. Not my phone. The iPad has a bigger screen.

In one car the radio is messed up so I have memorized all the 'clicks' I need to make to go from radio station to radio station. I do this with my right hand while the left is still on the wheel and my eyes are observing traffic.

On my other car, all the radio controls are in the steering wheel. No need to look away.

I'm not saying I'm perfect, but "everyone does it" won't be a defense in court if you ever find yourself there because of this.
 
Perhaps it's not so much the X and FaceID, but your process while driving?

My wife is the only call I will answer when driving and she is one of two people whose ringtones are different. I may check a text message notification on my lockscreen, but only at a stoplight and only to see who it came from. And if the stoplight is short I don't check at all. I take care of any of that when I get where I'm going.

If I'm using GPS Nav, it's my iPad sitting on a stand in my cupholder. Not my phone. The iPad has a bigger screen.

In one car the radio is messed up so I have memorized all the 'clicks' I need to make to go from radio station to radio station. I do this with my right hand while the left is still on the wheel and my eyes are observing traffic.

On my other car, all the radio controls are in the steering wheel. No need to look away.

I'm not saying I'm perfect, but "everyone does it" won't be a defense in court if you ever find yourself there because of this.
Fair enough but what defines acceptable usage? For example, if we have to reach down to turn the knob on our stereo and read the stations, how is that different than pressing the home button on our phone to launch the navigation app? Either way it's a distraction to a degree.
 
Fair enough but what defines acceptable usage? For example, if we have to reach down to turn the knob on our stereo and read the stations, how is that different than pressing the home button on our phone to launch the navigation app? Either way it's a distraction to a degree.
But that's my point. One one car I have no display to view. It's gone, it shows blank. So I've memorized the number of clicks of the "up/down" button between the radio stations I listen to. I can 'count' the clicks in my head while I still have my eyes on the road.

But I also did that before the display stopped working because it was distracting me too much to look down and that became dangerous.

On the other car it switches from pre-programmed station to pre-programmed station via the button on the steering wheel.

In short, I'm not looking down when changing radio stations.

In fairness, I will admit that when my wife calls I am often fumbling for the phone. But answering her call only is the only use of my phone while driving. Everything else I ignore. It's not worth my life or anyone else's.

And that's the worst part - thinking about having to live with myself because I hit someone while fiddling with a phone.

I'm not trying to come down on you, so please don't take this as an attack. It's just the way I've adapted to having a device while driving.
 
I recently decided to upgrade from the 8 Plus to the X and overall the experience was pretty good but decided to return it at 14 days. Loved the deep colors and contrast, it's snappy and intuitive, the gestures were much easier to learn than I thought it may be.

However, the main issue for me was Face ID and switching between apps while in the car. Yes, I know we "shouldn't" be using it in the car but let's be realistic, everyone does it at least for navigation or answering a call, to me this is much like changing the radio station or turning the volume up or down.

When trying to navigate with GPS and getting a phone call, switching between them is cumbersome at best with gesture control and when you throw having to lean in for Face ID it seemed so much more dangerous, at least to me. Touch ID and using the home button to quickly and easily navigate through the screens is just easier. That and the size of the 8 Plus is still quite a bit larger than the X and far more readable, at least to my older eyes.

All that said, it's a great phone and Face ID/gesture control is the future, when I absolutely have to I'll learn to deal with it.

Why should you be so utterly selfish to put other lives in danger! You literally may as well be drunk of your face every time you drive...
Using a phone whilst driving costs peoples lives FACT! And that’s no matter how little you use it!

People often forget they are controlling a ton or two in weight traveling up to 60 or 70MPH when on their phones, until they hit someone.

If you want to use your phone even for a split second, get hands free or pull over.
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I had the X and returned it for an 8 non Plus. The main reason was I couldn’t use the X 1 handed like I can use the 6/7/8 chassis.

Yeah I use my 6S one handedall the time, not sure I can do that with the X xo you think you may as well go for the new Plus.
 
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Fair enough but what defines acceptable usage? For example, if we have to reach down to turn the knob on our stereo and read the stations, how is that different than pressing the home button on our phone to launch the navigation app? Either way it's a distraction to a degree.
Comparing the navigation of a complex smartphone screen with a knob/digital readout is a shaky comparison.

Everything is a distraction “to a degree”, but at a specific point those distractions can lead to deadly consequences. That point is somewhere between knobs and hi-resolution displays. I would certainly not be app switching while driving with ANY device. Sounds like you could benefit from a dedicated navigation screen.
 
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I gave the x a chance twice. Back to the 8 plus. Face id doesnt it cut it when i have to look into my phone everytime. I take my phone out of my pocket and is already unlock witbout the need or swiping up or looking at it. Second the size was just small for me. I like big phone. Third the heat, it gets to darn hot the phone, brighness would dim to around 50% until phone cooled off. Forth, media playback. Every video i need to make a choice to see it in the small square factor or pinch to Zoom and large portion of it.
 
Isn't it more cumbersome to switch between apps on an iPhone with the home button? dont you have to double click the home button and swipe through apps in the app switcher? As opposed to just swiping between apps along the bottom of your screen.... Unless they changed the method in iOS 11 for home button phones, I'm not sure.
 
Isn't it more cumbersome to switch between apps on an iPhone with the home button? dont you have to double click the home button and swipe through apps in the app switcher? As opposed to just swiping between apps along the bottom of your screen.... Unless they changed the method in iOS 11 for home button phones, I'm not sure.

Yeah, only thing i hate about the 8+. Which apple would have done a capaticity button. Tap twice for app switchers. I know this can be done with jailbreak but is just not the same
 
Fair enough but what defines acceptable usage? For example, if we have to reach down to turn the knob on our stereo and read the stations, how is that different than pressing the home button on our phone to launch the navigation app? Either way it's a distraction to a degree.

I don’t look at my car head unit to operate it. Granted, mine is older and all physical buttons. Not universally true any more.
 
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