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Did you notice the bus speeds of your i7 920 in both circumstances? 500MHz and 700MHz (OC'D) while your Mac Pro is running at 1.6 GHz? What's the deal with that? (maybe I'm asking a stupid question but I thought I'd ask none the less)
 
Those results are interesting. I'd always wondered if the Harpertown 2.8 is faster than my Clovertown 3.0. Guess not.
 
I decided to run a few geekbench tests on my Early 2008 Octo 2.8ghz Mac Pro w/ 16gb of RAM against my daughter's Core i7 920 DIY Hackintosh with 6gb of DDR3 RAM. Both are running Leopard 10.5.6 with nothing else running.

Summary:
2008 2.8ghz Mac Pro Geekbench score = 9143
Quad Nehalem @ 2.66ghz = 7995
Quad Nehalem @ 3.60ghz = 10898


Yeah. I know. And my 2.66 Mac Pro from early 2007 (Mac Pro v1.1) is faster than the 2009 Nehalem 2.66. Bahahaha...

http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/94982 <--- Me! And I'm not even the fastest of my class: http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/chart/94982

Mine was a stock dual dual-ccore xeon based on the x5135 or something like that (it was 2.66 w/ 4 total cores). I dropped a pair of x5355 xeons in to make it a dual quad core @2.66. No other modifications and no overclocking!

I knew of course that the Nehalem was not all that much faster. Intel even says so. But that an ancient pair of x53oo series procs can beat it??? OMG. :(
 
I've got AMD parts lying around from my old powerhouse Windows PC before I bought my early 2008 Mac Pro.

Since Apple decided to try to fleece the ignorant of the world by charging 599 for their new Mac Mini, I've decided to try to turn those parts into a Hackint0sh for HTPC duties. After a bit of light reading, it seems there's a distro out there that will work with AMD CPU's / chipsets. I'm willing to buy a decent 100+ HTPC case and try making leopard work on the AMD parts. :D

I predict the latest desktop refresh pricing is going to increase the Hackint0sh community by a fair margin...............perhaps not the 28% margin Apple makes on their computers, but..............;)
 
I predict the latest desktop refresh pricing is going to increase the Hackint0sh community by a fair margin...............perhaps not the 28% margin Apple makes on their computers, but..............;)

I dunno Willy-Bill, I bet their sales drop like a rock! Seriously poor judgement has overcome Apple.

I dunno if it's related but it seems everytime Steve Jobs steps back from the decision making processes there at Apple they fall on their faces. <shrug>
 
I did count the amount of people who ordered the first day of release for the new mac pros in the "Un/official ordered thread" vs a thread just like it after the 2008 mac pros were released(counted first day only orders) and the results were 4 orders for the 2009 and 35 orders for the 2008 thread. Obviously not anywhere near real numbers but it's not like macrumors has dropped dramatically in membership since last year, probably gained member since then.
 
Hi, have you tried any real life test? I meant: have you use compressor on the New Hackintosh an compare with the octo?
Cheeers Really looking forward for you responce :eek:

in another thread someone posted a video file to be able to compare multiple benchmarks, check it out here..

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/7225465/

Keep in mind this is probably shows the i7 in the best light, I wouldn't expect other benchmarks to allow the i7 to scale as good.
 
Nice. :)

BTW, how does it compare to the MP?

You know, for encoding, overclocked to 3.6ghz + Turbo-boost the 4 cores i7 encoded Handbrake faster than my 8 core. To put it more to shame, when using apps that are not really multi-threaded, the base 3.6ghz core speed just makes the system feel really really snappy. I'm kind of jealous, but I need more than 4 cores to run my multiple VMware sessions, so I'm going to wait til 3.2ghz Mac Pro's arrive, otherwise I'd probably sell my MP and build myself another Hack.
 
You know, for encoding, overclocked to 3.6ghz + Turbo-boost the 4 cores i7 encoded Handbrake faster than my 8 core. To put it more to shame, when using apps that are not really multi-threaded, the base 3.6ghz core speed just makes the system feel really really snappy. I'm kind of jealous, but I need more than 4 cores to run my multiple VMware sessions, so I'm going to wait til 3.2ghz Mac Pro's arrive, otherwise I'd probably sell my MP and build myself another Hack.
:eek: :cool:

I've managed 4.0GHz on air, but temp hit 84C, and made me too nervous. Not as stable as it should have been either, and backed it off to 3.8GHz.
 
the cpus is in the 2009 mac pros are not available to the public yet so i doubt it's the same cpus
 
the cpus is in the 2009 mac pros are not available to the public yet so i doubt it's the same cpus
They are.

Apple and Intel made a deal that allowed Apple to have early access to new parts, beating other vendors with a shipping product.
 
They are.

Apple and Intel made a deal that allowed Apple to have early access to new parts, beating other vendors with a shipping product.

that's what i am talking about. a hackintosh can't have cpus inside that are exclusively available to apple
 
Isn't he saying that's already over now and that they ARE available?

Besides, if you're building your own aren't there even better procs than what Apple is using? What are the 7400 series xeons and how are some of the procs in the 5000 series that Apple isn't reserving?

The X7460 with 6 physical cores looks pretty nice to me! :S

In a dual system that's 12 physical cores or 24 virtual cores! Weeeeeeeee!!!
 
that's what i am talking about. a hackintosh can't have cpus inside that are exclusively available to apple
Anyone will be able to use the exact same part numbers Apple is using. None of them are custom parts excusively for Apple. Intel makes the formal release on March 29, and many board, memory,... makers will release then as well. :)

Some sites have already posted the parts for sale, but I'm not sure if they actually have them in stock, as some indicate yes, while others no. Nor whether they would ship before the official release date, if they do. :confused:

Might be worth a phone call, etc. to find out, if you're in a hurry. ;) :p
 
i7 setup

shokunin,


I would like to create a setup like you have with the i7 configuration, however I cannot find the micro atx motherboard you talked about. Can I use another board instead?

I was looking at this board for instance:


Asus RAMPAGE II GENE Intel X58 Nehalem Core i7
Thinking about putting it in old g4 mirror case I have for kicks.
 
You should be comparing OC'd 2.8 octo. Mine OC'd at 3185 mhz gives 12800 geekbench result, beating the 3.6 OC'd nehalem.
 
I'll bet there's more than a few marketing execs infighting at Apple.

Not only do they up the price (egregiously), they do it in a down economy. What part of Marketing 101 did they fail?

I'm sure that will help put the spurs to the Hackintosh market.
 
Yeah. I know. And my 2.66 Mac Pro from early 2007 (Mac Pro v1.1) is faster than the 2009 Nehalem 2.66. Bahahaha...

http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/94982 <--- Me! And I'm not even the fastest of my class: http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/chart/94982

Mine was a stock dual dual-ccore xeon based on the x5135 or something like that (it was 2.66 w/ 4 total cores). I dropped a pair of x5355 xeons in to make it a dual quad core @2.66. No other modifications and no overclocking!

I knew of course that the Nehalem was not all that much faster. Intel even says so. But that an ancient pair of x53oo series procs can beat it??? OMG. :(

Your score 8413...

Quad 2,66 nehalem is faster 9601
http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/118447

So where do you see a 2007 mac pro (not oc-ed) faster than the 2009 mac pro

Edit: ok you speak about the op numbers but these are 32 bit results...your score is for 64 bit
 
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