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EugW

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Basically this confirms that the A12Z SoC really is only the same A12X but with one more GPU core activated. Same clock speed and everything. Before the benches came out I had hoped to see a clock speed boost to maybe around 2.8 GHz, but no such luck. And I betcha that GPU core was already there, but A12X has one core deactivated for yield reasons. A12Z likely represents a binned chip where all 8 cores can be utilized.

The good news is it again confirms the 6 GB RAM, at least for this particular 8,12 model.

So, will A14X be 30-40% faster than A12X?

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Basically this confirms that the A12Z SoC really is only the same A12X but with one more GPU core activated. Same clock speed and everything. Before the benches came out I had hoped to see a clock speed boost to maybe around 2.8 GHz, but no such luck. And I betcha that GPU core was already there, but A12X has one core deactivated for yield reasons. A12Z likely represents a binned chip where all 8 cores can be utilized.

The good news is it again confirms the 6 GB RAM, at least for this particular 8,12 model.

So, will A14X be 30-40% faster than A12X?

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Where did you get this info from ? Can you please post the link of the source ?
 

The Game 161

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So in other words: if you have a 2018 iPad Pro, unless you like lidar cameras, dont bother upgrading

I think that would be fair certainly when 2018 pros will work on the new magic keyboard. Along with trackpad support with 13.4….

I’m buying it as I no longer have an ipad and it will replace my laptop as I’m selling my macbook air to have a laptop type experience.

Would I be tempted if they bring out the mini LED ipad pro? Yeah but if it’s just a little more powerful and mini LED I wouldn’t say it would be a massive upgrade even then.
 

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This is disappointing news. I was ready to replace the Ipad Air 3 which I got as a temporary tablet with the new Ipad pro but with the ongoing price I would prefer to have the latest processor.

Does anyone know if the new Ipad pro supports deep fusion and other features from A13? Not that I would be interestied on taking photos with it but it would be a good indication whether there might be other future limitations compared to current generation.

One of the reasons why Apple chose the A12Z might be that they can advertise larger gains in performance when A14X comes out.
 

The Game 161

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This is disappointing news. I was ready to replace the Ipad Air 3 which I got as a temporary tablet with the new Ipad pro but with the ongoing price I would prefer to have the latest processor.

Does anyone know if the new Ipad pro supports deep fusion and other features from A13? Not that I would be interestied on taking photos with it but it would be a good indication whether there might be other future limitations compared to current generation.

One of the reasons why Apple chose the A12Z might be that they can advertise larger gains in performance when A14X comes out.
trust me this iPad Pro speed wise is very fast as it is...and techinally it does have the latest processor available for the tablet.
 

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EugW

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pretty pointless upgrade from the gen 3. hopefully they have at least strengthened the chassis at least
The RAM upgrade to 6 GB is a pretty big deal for example, even if it isn’t advertised.

While I wouldn’t necessarily recommend those with the 3rd generation upgrade to this, that’s not the main target market anyway for the 4th generation. The main target market is those with older machines and those without any iPad Pro at all.

The 128 GB base storage is also a great incentive for people like me. I don’t need 256 GB, but I find 64 GB tight.

The biggest disappointment for me is the lack of 5G. I didn’t really expect it, but hoped for it. If I didn’t want a cellular model I’d buy right now. However, since I want a cellular model, I’m hesitating a bit.

Anyhow, I can wait a bit to think about it since I do have a 2nd gen 10.5” iPad Pro with keyboard, and I don’t like using iPads without a keyboard. Unfortunately the Magic Keyboard for the 3rd/4th gen iPad Pro isn’t even out until May. Plus the fact that I’m stuck at home anyway both for work and play right now means I don’t actually need another iPad Pro for the time being. My wife and kids all already have their own iPads (iPad 7 128 GB cellular with keyboard for wife, and iPad Air 2 64 GB for each of my kids). I was going to leave my 10.5” iPad Pro 64 GB WiFi at work and use an 11” 128 GB Cellular with keyboard everywhere else but now I’m working from home most of the time for reasons everyone is aware of.


Where did you get this info from ? Can you please post the link of the source ?
What particular piece of information in particular? I already posted the Geekbench links.
 
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Dave245

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I’m thinking I will upgrade when the new keyboard comes out in May! My 2017 iPad Pro is pretty good, but I do edit some video in LumaFusion and edit photos in Pixelmator. The 2nd gen Apple Pencil also seems like a big upgrade for me.

From what I’ve seen the 2018 iPad Pro was already powerful more so than a lot of laptops. the only thing that bothers me is the thinness and the bending issues of the 2018 iPad Pro, that’s another reason why I’m waiting until May, to see if the same issues occur again Or maybe Apple have fixed it and made the iPad Pro stronger.
 

smbu2000

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Very surprising that they didn’t do anything to the CPU. My 2018 12.9 got pretty mich the exact same score. Compute was only 9000 vs the 10k on the new one.

Still pretty lackluster after a year and a half.

My 1tb 12.9 also has 6GB of RAM.
 

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Here is MacRumors' article about the benchmarks.

 

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I am wondering if this iPad Pro that was tested had time to index its self and all that. I have with every device run a benchmark as soon as it is set up, then used it for a couple days then cleared the ram again and the numbers always are higher by 100-250 across the board.
 

EugW

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I am wondering if this iPad Pro that was tested had time to index its self and all that. I have with every device run a benchmark as soon as it is set up, then used it for a couple days then cleared the ram again and the numbers always are higher by 100-250 across the board.
Multiple iPad Pros have been tested already. They’re all about the same.
 
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Digitalguy

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The RAM upgrade to 6 GB is a pretty big deal for example, even if it isn’t advertised.

While I wouldn’t necessarily recommend those with the 3rd generation upgrade to this, that’s not the main target market anyway for the 4th generation. The main target market is those with older machines and those without any iPad Pro at all.

The 128 GB base storage is also a great incentive for people like me. I don’t need 256 GB, but I find 64 GB tight.

The biggest disappointment for me is the lack of 5G. I didn’t really expect it, but hoped for it. If I didn’t want a cellular model I’d buy right now. However, since I want a cellular model, I’m hesitating a bit.

Anyhow, I can wait a bit to think about it since I do have a 2nd gen 10.5” iPad Pro with keyboard, and I don’t like using iPads without a keyboard. Unfortunately the Magic Keyboard for the 3rd/4th gen iPad Pro isn’t even out until May. Plus the fact that I’m stuck at home anyway both for work and play right now means I don’t actually need another iPad Pro for the time being. My wife and kids all already have their own iPads (iPad 7 128 GB cellular with keyboard for wife, and iPad Air 2 64 GB for each of my kids). I was going to leave my 10.5” iPad Pro 64 GB WiFi at work and use an 11” 128 GB Cellular with keyboard everywhere else but now I’m working from home most of the time for reasons everyone is aware of.



What particular piece of information in particular? I already posted the Geekbench links.
Given the rumors of 5G A14X before the end of the year, I'll wait for that... Especially with Covid linkey blocking everything till at least the summer in the Western world....
 
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Digitalguy

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or if you don't like faster LTE (although not 5G), or Wifi 6 (ax)



An update to the Pro in less than a year would not be expected based upon the timing of previous updates.
Except rumors are saying otherwise this time and it would not be the first time Apple changes the timing... Especially as the same rumors say everything else will stay the same....
 

ingambe

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Given the rumors of 5G A14X before the end of the year, I'll wait for that... Especially with Covid linkey blocking everything till at least the summer in the Western world....

This rumor concern only the 12.9
And the probability for this update to come without any cost is marginal, it will certainly be a "Max" and be really expensive!
 
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